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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:15 PM
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Tamil protesters 'ready to die'
Source: BBC

They are part of a group that has been protesting opposite the House of Commons since Monday, over the plight of civilians caught up in the war.

They want Prime Minister Gordon Brown and UN secretary-general Ban Ki-moon to agree to meet their representatives.

There is fighting in Sri Lanka between the Tamil Tigers and the government.

The rebel Tamil Tigers started fighting in the 1970s for a separate state for Tamils in Sri Lanka's north and east. They argue they have been discriminated against by successive Sinhalese-dominated governments.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7994181.stm
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 02:20 PM
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1. Well that's good because the Sri Lankan government seems all too willing to kill them...
As this week's shelling of so-called "safe zones" showed.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 06:46 PM
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3. Group: Sri Lanka's civilian deaths skyrocketing
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka – An international rights group on Friday urged Sri Lanka's military to stop firing artillery into a designated "no fire" zone, saying civilian casualties were skyrocketing.

The plea came as U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon telephoned Sri Lanka's President Mahinda Rajapaksa to discuss the plight of about 100,000 civilians trapped in the zone.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090410/ap_on_re_as/as_sri_lanka_civil_war_6
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 03:38 PM
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2. got to share this info on Islam, is the violence associated with jihad's just institutional paranoia
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 03:47 PM by sam sarrha
http://users.skynet.be/sky50779/mohammed.htm

"snip...Theophanes, a monk (752-817), wrote in his Chronography that Muhammad suffered from epilepsy. From that time most historians repeated this opinion. When in the late 19th century better notions of psychopathology became common, this diagnosis was challenged. Some thought his disease was hysteria or hystero-epilepsy, although for most scientists epilepsy was excluded. There was no definitive answer to this question. A better scientific examination of the sources has made clear that all symptoms of acromegaly are present with some psychopathological paranoid traits. Acromegaly is caused by a small tumour of the hypophysis, beginning most of the time about the fortieth year and ending in the sixtieth year with an apoplexy of the hypophysis.



According to the hadith Muhammad suffered from a long-lasting disease, which he treated by means of bleeding. He walked as somebody who comes down from a hill. His skin-colour was peculiar, not white, not too tanned, somewhat rosy. His eyebrows were conspicuous. He was sweating heavily, especially when he was receiving revelations. He heard the noise of bells and voices. He had a great appetite and suffered from hunger. Notwithstanding his sexual relations with ten young women, he remained quasi-sterile: one only child after the age of forty years. During his last illness he suffered from intense headaches, losses of consciousness, back- and intestinal pains. He died at the age of 62 years. Psychologically he was known as trustworthy, somewhat retiring and prude. Initially, about at the age of forty years, he was depressed, retiring, and showed a tendency to suicide. He spoke slowly. Most typical were his great hands, dough feeling palms, great feet, a long fleshy nose, well developed ears and a peculiar voice...snip"


so.. is Mahmud's symptomatic paranoia woven into his Channeling/organically caused hallucinations of the voice of one called Allah..? and the religion in general..

not affecting all practitioners of course, but the ones on the edge perhaps explaining the intense viciousness of their attacks.. and of course the article begs the the question concluding that islam is only the product of a physically and mentally ill man. whose conversations with a god and teachings were caused by a brain tumor




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ShareTheWoods Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 08:52 PM
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4. it's the parents and other adults that teach the jihadists to hate and murder
There is no other "religion" that even come close to killing as many women, gays, innocents that these sickos
who kill in the name of allah have. As long as the world allow them to teach hate and lies to kids it will continue.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 09:04 PM
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5. Christianity sure was holding its own.
Although some practitioners of Islam are stuck in the stone age, I don't think you should brand all of Islam.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 10:04 PM
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6. the point is, Islam is most likely just the product of hallucinations caused by a brain tumor
Edited on Fri Apr-10-09 10:06 PM by sam sarrha
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:16 AM
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8. another point is parents/etc re simply passing on the inherent paranoia of the religions creator a
man ill with a brain tumor that causes paranoia.. i think that paranoia ts woven into the fabric of the religion itself

38 years ago i nearly converted to Islam, i was really impressed and inspired by a Sufi Community. i was really freaked out by what i felt was nearly a Phobic relationship with non-muslims.. in the literature i read, which was general islam, not Sufi in particular.. i was only able at that time to find general islam in my library.

i hadn't even got into the murderous family feud before i opted out.
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Kalyan Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-10-09 11:25 PM
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7. well good .. here's what they can do ...
they can go to Sri Lanka and enter the NFZ and plead with prabhakaran for releasing all civilian hostages and offer themselves instead.

I support the Sri Lankan Tamil movement for equal rights within Sri Lankan constitution. I don't support the terrorist group LTTE. I will shed no tears when this group is completely destroyed. They deserve it - if not for anything, for the murder of fellow tamilians.

However a note of caution - SL govt has international support in dealing with LTTE. The world is watching as to how they will resolve the Tamil-Sinhalese issues. The SL govt should go ahead and start the reconciliation process at the earliest, so that it gives confidence to Tamils that they are treated on par with the sinhalese population.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 10:26 AM
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9. a note on civilian "Hostages".they raid villages, steal women an children an sell them as sex slaves
Edited on Sat Apr-11-09 10:28 AM by sam sarrha
if the families can't pay the ransomes...

slavery is institutional in Islam, it is dealt with in great detail in the Koran.

there are open slave markets on the streets in Dakar Senegal selling the children of the Moors as i type, and many other places. the United Arab Emirates is the hub of distribution of child sex slaves..
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-11-09 01:56 PM
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10. This isn't about Islam
It's not a common religion in Sri Lanka, and is not significantly not involved in the Tamil/Sinhalese conflict.

Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, and Christianity all are practiced. Approximately 70 percent of the population was Buddhist, 15 percent Hindu, 8 percent Christian, and 7 percent Muslim. Christians tended to be concentrated in the west, with much of the east populated by Muslims and the north almost exclusively by Hindus.

Most members of the majority Sinhala community were Theravada Buddhists. Most Tamils, who made up the largest ethnic minority, were Hindu. Almost all Muslims were Sunnis; there was also a small minority of Shi'a, including members of the Borah community. Almost 80 percent of Christians were Catholics, with Anglican and other mainstream Protestant churches also present in the cities. Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, Methodists, Baptists, Dutch Reformed, Pentecostal, and the Assemblies of God were also present. Evangelical Christian groups have grown in recent years, although membership was still small.

http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2006/71444.htm


Perhaps your observations on Islam would be better in a thread that involves Islam, rather than 2 communities with other religions as their major beliefs.
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