No plans for Obama meeting with Chavez-White House

[cali]

Source: Reuters UK


Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:12am BST

U.S. President Barack Obama does not plan to have a one-on-one meeting with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez at an upcoming summit of leaders, the White House said on Thursday.

Obama and Chavez, who has both mocked and praised the U.S. president, are slated to meet with leaders from across the hemisphere at the Summit of the Americas starting on Friday in Trinidad and Tobago.

"There's no one-on-one meeting with Mr. Chavez on the schedule," spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters. "I believe he is among several leaders that are in a multilateral meeting."

When asked whether Obama would walk away if Chavez pulled him aside for a private talk, Gibbs said: "Every time I've pulled the president aside to have a conversation, we've had that conversation, so I assume he would do the same."



Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/oilRpt/idUKN1628925120090417

[onehandle]

1. Good. It would be an unnecessary controversy. nt

[Bacchus39]

2. and there is no compelling reason to meet with Hugo n/t

s

[Demeter]

3. Foolish Waste of an Opportunity

Chavez deserves some respect, after all the slander heaped on his head by BushCo and its operatives.

If Obama wanted to be his own man, this would be an excellent point to start. Especially if he plans to drag us through more of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[cali]

12. you do understand that "no plans" doesn't mean it won't transpire, right?

And Obama is clearly his own man. He'll handle this situation with his usualy understated equanimity and dignity. And frankly, I hardly think that Chavez deserves anything other than the respect due him as a head of state. I'm quite confident that Obama won't fail to do that. I'm less confidant that Chavez won't grandstand.

[SKKY]

29. For Obama to meet one-on-one with Chavez would only serve as...

...a photo op for Hugo, and give the MSM more reason to brand Obama as the socialist they seem to think he is. I see no value added in meeting with him.

[ohio2007]

4. Best to distance himself from Hugo at this time.

Hugo plans to veto any agreements made in Trinidad and Tobago at the conference anyway.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3831852&mesg_id=3831852

[Judi Lynn]

5. This is clearly spun in a different direction from the original situation

which has already been clearly explained, and was posted yesterday by rabs who took it from Latin American sources:

Interesting details from Brazil regarding Obama summit meetings
Edited on Thu Apr-16-09 01:53 AM by rabs

~snip~
Obama called Bachelet and requested meetings with UNASUR presidents on Saturday. Bachelet called Lula, who immediately approved. Lula is to speak with Obama today (Thursday) to coordinate issues.

Obama has also called for meetings with presidents of the Andean bloc, the Central American bloc and the Caribbean bloc.

Brazilian spokesman said it was being done this way because one-on-one meetings would have taken a week.

Ortega in Managua today said Obama would meet with Central American leaders on Sunday.

Lulu and Uribe (who is visiting Brazil) agreed that Cuba should be included in the next Summit of the Americas.

Lula said the issue of Cuba should be raised at this week's summit, "not to create a problem" for Obama but that Cuba's absence was an "anomaly that should be corrected."

Spokesman for Lulu said Brazil will formally ask the OAS to reinstate Cuba at the OAS meeting in June.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x14052

[Bacchus39]

6. Venezuela quit the Andean bloc

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4925056.stm

your post has little to do with the subject regarding a meeting between Hugo and President Obama. Obama will be meeting with all the leaders as a group and perhaps some subsets.

[ohio2007]

7. Why do you quote a "source" posted by a DUer with less then 250 posts and no link ?

rabs (229 posts)

wheres the rest of "the thread"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=405x14052

looks incoherent without more info.

jmo

[SkyDaddy7]

8. Question?

I think the number of post someone has on DU means nothing if the source and the info posted is sound...Very odd comment.

However, what do I know having only a hundred or so post.

[rabs]

17. Two thumbs up

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:


and :toast:

[SkyDaddy7]

18. Hey a Low Post Friend!

See ya around!

[ohio2007]

28. You didn't read my post and went off track . Why not answer the question "low one"

the thread didn't offer a link to "the quote". Was it a made up statement ? well ?

Why pick such an obscure post in an obscure forum to make it look like it was the view of latin america?
:sarcasm:.

Sounds like somebody "getting creative" in building an arguement imo

[SkyDaddy7]

33. "Getting Creative"

Instead of digging in deeper an apology would have worked better. A post that you think is not complete is one thing but that is not what you chose to focus on it was the low post number. The subject was titled "Why do you quote a "source" posted by a DUer with less then 250 posts and no link"...You even wrote the person's screen name along with their exact post count "rabs (229 posts)" So, why act as if this was not you primary point especially when anyone can go back and see exactly what you wrote and how you wrote it?

Don't get me wrong you are not alone with this odd thinking here on DU that people with low post count are not worthy of much attention.


But what do I know with less than 200 post? However, I will work on making as many useless post as possible to get my post count to a respectable number.

[Judi Lynn]

9. Because I've known him for years, respect him highly, met him at CNN's

message boards, know people who know him, he has lived in Latin America, many countries for years, knows multiple languages, listens to their radio and tv broadcasts and relays the information which always checks out.

Incoherent? Uh huh.

[ohio2007]

30. My question was; Why no link to "the statement" posted ? Got something to hide ?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3836080&mesg_id=3836132

And why did you avoid this this thread ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3831852&mesg_id=3831884

Would it would burst your bubble to respond what your hero "thug" is really doing ?

[rabs]

16. The source was a spokesman in Brasilia

from Itamaraty. I saw no point in posting the statement in Portuguese because suspect a lot of DUers do not read or understand the language.

Fyi I do not rely on MSM (AP, Reuters, BBC and others) for news out of Latam. I usually go official government sources such as Itamaraty, La Moneda, Palacio Narino, Palacio Quemado, Casa Rosada, Palacio Miraflores etc etc to get information. Also watch online TV from Argentina, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, Peru, and others. I suggest Telesur TV, which covers events throughout the hemisphere.

Good enough? :hi:

Speaking of BBC, did you know that one of the terrorists killed yesterday in Santa Cruz de la Sierra was a correspondent for the BBC? (Source, Agencia Boliviana de Informaciones.)

[Judi Lynn]

24. I'd say you're well informed, to put it mildly. Maybe almost as deeply informed as that poster,

no doubt, if you should only be so lucky! :sarcasm:

I remember reading some time ago that journalism presents a terrific hiding place for stealthy types who are following a secret agenda, as once they're in, they have all kinds of access to public figures not available to ordinary people.

You add a depth wherever you are which just doesn't happen without you. I think it's easy to confirm that for yourself by taking a look around! Tremendously appreciated by many.

[ohio2007]

31. Not to split hairs but

Why do you assume Google translate is something a lot of DUers do not understand how to use ?

http://translate.google.com/translate_t?langpair=es#


btw;

I usually go official government sources such as Itamaraty, La Moneda, Palacio Narino, Palacio Quemado, Casa Rosada, Palacio Miraflores etc etc to get information.

You gotta watch the links you post. Some prefer to "attack the messenger" then the message it reveals as the first point in debate
:hi:

When it comes to the so called "M$M"


I also like taking the links less travelled
:toast:

[Judi Lynn]

10. Totally different tone in another article posted by magbana in the Latin America forum:

magbana (1000+ posts)
Fri Apr-17-09 09:48 AM
Original message
If Chavez Initiates Talks, Obama Would Likely Agree, Gibbs Says

"updated 43 minutes ago

If Chavez initiates talks, Obama would likely agree, Gibbs says

(CNN) -- President Obama doesn't have a one-on-one meeting scheduled with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, but if Chavez were to initiate a conversation, Obama would likely go along with it, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said he is ready to talk with the U.S. president.

Obama on Friday travels to Trinidad and Tobago for the Summit of the Americas, a meeting of leaders from North and South America. While there are no plans for a one-on-one with Chavez, the Venezuelan president is expected to be among several leaders at a multilateral meeting, Gibbs said.

Pressed on whether Obama would have a conversation with Chavez, should the Venezuelan leader pull him aside and initiate one, Gibbs said, "Every time I pull the president aside to have a conversation we've had that conversation, so I assume he would do the same."

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=405&topic_id=14120&mesg_id=14120

[cali]

13. oh, for pity's sake. that's really splitting hairs.

the article I posted also quotes Gibbs. There's hardly any sinister anti-Chavez spin in the piece I posted. Take off your Hugo glow glasses long enough to actually see.

Your adulation of Chavez is becoming pitiful. Just as pitiful as the posts about how Chavez is an evil dictator.

[sufrommich]

11. Obama isn't going to single out Chavez during his meeting

with Latin American leaders. Why would he? It was George Bush who pumped up the importance of Chavez in order to rile his base.

[Judi Lynn]

14. At least when he goes to this summit, he won't have the guilty conscience which shadowed Bush

when he attended a summit with Hugo Chavez after he supported the violent coup against Chavez, and plowed millions of hard-earned, should be treated respectfully, dollars into creating and sustaining all kinds of anti-Chavez organizations in Venezuela.

http://weekly.ahram.org.eg.nyud.net:8090/2004/674/inter111.jpg

[jewishlibrl]

15. They'll meet one on one eventually

The plan is to meet him and others during the first year, as stated during one of the debates. It hasn't been 3 months yet, so there is still much time left.

[annabanana]

19. Well... GUESS WHAT?... You know what they say about "plans". .

[Bacchus39]

20. looks like their meeting went well n/t

s

[Judi Lynn]

21. Great photo, annabanana. Thanks! n/t

[cali]

26. well, of course he shook hands with Chavez

what did you think? thet he'd actually spurn him? And he may meet one on one with Chavez, but it's not scheduled. That's all the article says.

[ohio2007]

32. Yes, its what heads of state do

the 'handshake' pick will make the rounds........



it's better then the bowing pic


It was kinda upsetting on one level but but nobody "spun" it differently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JGK-xbXxMw
I wonder if it was a "Christ like" moment on another level?
Most likely not but discussion of it was avoided like the plague.

[marasinghe]

22. and why would chavez want to meet with obama?

he has cast his lot with the destitute of venezuela; he doesn't sit with bankers.

that old exceptionalism magic still lurking behind the mask, i see.

[cali]

27. Chavez isn't stupid. That's why.

[classysassy]

23. The handshake

the rethugs will have a field day trying to decode the shake,Rush you and your lying greedy pals are in deep trouble,the bros are comming.

[Judi Lynn]

25. Ha! It'll give them nightmares if he fistbumps anyone! There'll be a run on ammunition.

http://returntomanliness.com.nyud.net:8090/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/fist_bump_lieberman.jpg

http://outfoxingkarlrove.files.wordpress.com.nyud.net:8090/2008/11/sarkozy-obama-france.jpg