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Doctor Cynic Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:38 PM
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Chinese woman in $57m fraud trial
Source: BBC

A Chinese woman who turned her beauty business into a multi-million dollar property empire could be executed after being put on trial for financial fraud.

Wu Ying, 28, who comes from a family of poor farmers, has pleaded not guilty to charges that she ran a pyramid scheme.

She is accused of defrauding investors of $57m (£38m) by promising returns of up to 10% but failing to invest their money properly, state media reports.

Her story has attracted much attention in China since her arrest in 2007.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8004002.stm



Bernie Madoff must be snickering at her, calling her a n00b.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 09:48 PM
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1. firing squad must be the only way to prevent fraud
Many CEOs are lucky to be in America
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:13 PM
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2. An Effective tool. No recidivism. But as yet untried here in the capital of capitalism.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-17-09 10:58 PM
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3. They are indeed...
Here they are bailed out instead of denied bail and given bonuses paid for by the taxpayers to boot. Which is what we need to finally start doing to the politicians in Washington - give them the boot.

Maybe by November when it is obvious to everyone that the only thing stimulated by the stimulus were the orders for Bentleys in Manhattan everyone will finally get the message and go to the polls and vote "ABI." Anyone But the Incumbent.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:56 AM
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4. Except that it doesn't prevent fraud, as the constant scandals in China demonstrate.
Strict regulation and the likelihood of being caught are far more effective deterrents than the savagery of punishment.

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 12:27 PM
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8. Those events become scandals because they are not common
we are just used to fraud and corruption that we don't scandalize about it
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DrCory Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:37 PM
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11. Corruption Not Common In China?
Ha! You haven't a fucking clue if you honestly believe that!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:36 PM
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12. You Think Corruption is MORE Common in the US
than in China?

The two countries are not even in the same realm:

Failure to contain endemic corruption among Chinese officials poses one of the most serious threats to the nation’s future economic and political stability, says a new report from the Carnegie Endowment.
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=19628&prog=zch

CORRUPTION, Chinese officials often fret out loud, could destroy the Communist Party.... Yet frequent crackdowns and the occasional toppling of sleazy officials appear to have little impact.
http://www.economist.com/research/Backgrounders/displaystory.cfm?story_id=9040393

In the PRC the reforms of Deng Xiaoping were much criticized for reintroducing of corruption, as the cost of economic development.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_China

Wen admitted in his government work report "corruption remains a serious problem in some localities, departments and areas."
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-03/05/content_10948561.htm

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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 05:03 PM
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14. Corruption is defined by laws
what can be perceived as corruption in one country can be legal in another, for example in China it could be a felony to give money to political campaigns in the US is legal.
In many other countries lobbies are illegal but in the US are legal, lobbies could be classified as legalized corruption.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 09:36 PM
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16. If Your Point is That
political donations in the US are more common than bribes and embezzlement in China, it is a somewhat more debatable.

:eyes:

You are still profoundly ignorant about China.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 04:40 PM
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13. I get a different story from my Chinese friends...
corruption and nepotism are pretty endemic there.

Also, if corruption is a rarity in China, why do we *keep* getting these stories of unsafe Chinese exports? This doesn't happen in the same way in countries where regulation works properly.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-19-09 05:06 PM
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15. regulations won't work properly when competition is driven by prices and quantity
Edited on Sun Apr-19-09 05:06 PM by AlphaCentauri
not by quality
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 02:57 AM
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5. ouroboros the snake eats it own tail.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:28 AM
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7. That's actually an early Christian symbol...
and its not a bad thing.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:23 AM
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6. That is how to take care of business. Bernie Maddoff your next in the firing line.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:20 PM
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9. This would have been a better solution for Wall Street than the bail out.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 04:25 PM
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10. Huzzah for Chinese Justice! I hope we outsource our white-collar crime control to them!
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