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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:26 AM
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C.I.A. Memos Could Bring More Disclosures
Source: New York Times

C.I.A. Memos Could Bring More Disclosures

Published: April 17, 2009
WASHINGTON — Even as President Obama urges the country to turn the page, his decision to reveal exhaustive details about interrogation methods used by the Central Intelligence Agency could lead to a flood of new disclosures about secret Bush administration operations against Al Qaeda, current and former government officials said Friday.

At the same time, the new revelations are fueling calls by lawmakers for an extensive inquiry into controversial Bush administration programs, and Mr. Obama now faces a challenge making good on his promise to protect from legal jeopardy those intelligence operatives who acted within Justice Department interrogation guidelines.


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The American Civil Liberties Union, whose lawsuit forced the release of the Justice Department memos on Thursday, plans to press the Justice Department to release other classified documents from the Bush era, including a 2004 C.I.A. inspector general’s report that gives details about C.I.A. officers who exceeded Justice Department interrogation guidelines.

“These are the first dominoes,” said Jameel Jaffer, an A.C.L.U. lawyer. “It will be difficult for the new administration to now argue that other documents can be lawfully withheld.”


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/18/us/politics/18detain.html?_r=1
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:41 AM
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1. oops
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 06:42 AM by glowing
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:47 AM
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2. "Occultism is Republicon Homelander spelled backwards. D'oh. Smirk." -xCommander AWOL (R)
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 06:49 AM by SpiralHawk
"Me and xVP Dickie 'Five Military Deferments' Cheney weren't real gud on the spelling thingy, but we totally had the occultism stuff down gud, and the dumb, bended-knee Corporate Media (smirk) never seemed to have a clue or give a shit. Smirk."

- xCommander AWOL (R)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:51 AM
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5. Bush is not a big guy, so Cheney must be tiny
small minds in small men.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 06:48 AM
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3. Did Obama say "to protect from legal jeopardy?"
or did he say we should move forward?
getting the ball rolling may have been what he had in mind all along.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:09 AM
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4. you are correct. I believe he plans to protect the rank & file but not those who ordered this
I think the architects of this should be very concerned. I believe Obama wants this all to come out BUT he wants the prosecutions to be demanded by others so he can remain "President of everyone" instead of looking partisan and out for revenge.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 07:57 AM
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6. This is the problem
Let's say you read the Alinsky books and took them to heart. Then you would think manipulation and trickery work better than crusades and dramatic gestures.

Want to get someone indicted? Well, how about releasing official documents that lay out just how bad they really were? Then you CAN move on feeling fairly confident that someone will follow up on what those papers reveal. Unless Obama plans to issue a Presidential Pardon to anyone who was at all involved in this blot on US history his hands will be tied. He can promise the handlers anything he wants but is he going to take on Congress at the same time he needs to get health care and other things passed?

Sometimes I really think that we elected a Machiavelli willing to work for US but that might be my childish hope speaking.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:09 AM
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8. one can hope this is his plan - to release enough to cause public outrage here & abroad
Edited on Sat Apr-18-09 10:09 AM by peacebird
so that there is no choice but for investigation and prosecution of those who designed and ordered these outrages in our names. If those at the top are punished instead of the lowly grunts who got sent to jail for Abu Ghraib now THAT would be a powerful deterrent!
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:12 AM
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9. Then it's time for us to MAKE him do the right thing.
Deluge him in letters. A few well-attended marches wouldn't hurt.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 09:33 AM
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7. I'm thinking (hoping) more could come out too
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-18-09 10:44 AM
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10. Three memos down, 3,000 plus documents to go
For each document revealed, one thousand remain hidden!!

CIA Has 3,000 Docs on Torture Tapes
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x5303329
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