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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-21-09 11:52 PM
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Another immigration foe to speak at UNC
Edited on Tue Apr-21-09 11:58 PM by AlphaCentauri
Source: charlotte observer

Undeterred by a protest that derailed a planned speech by former congressman Tom Tancredo last week, a UNC student group has invited another conservative former lawmaker to campus tonight.

Former U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode Jr. was invited by the UNC chapter of Youth for Western Civilization. The former Virginia congressman opposes amnesty for immigrants and automatic citizenship for children of illegal immigrants born in the U.S. He also was an early sponsor of legislation to build a fence along the U.S-Mexico border, according to his Web site.

Tancredo, national chairman of Youth for Western Civilization, visited Chapel Hill April 14 but left amid a disturbance involving dozens of student protesters and campus public safety officers.



Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/local/story/678797.html



Hitler Jugend Bund der deutschen Arbeiterjugend
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:04 AM
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1. The speaker is really boring, but keep watching and you'll see something funny n/t
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 12:06 AM by imdjh


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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:27 AM
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2. Too bad you couldn't capture on video the person that throw that rock
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:32 AM
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3. I was talking about the girl yelling out the window 3:16 nt
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 12:47 AM
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4. sorry I misunderstood n/t
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:10 AM
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5. It is unfair and incorrect to call either Goode or Tancredo "anti-immigration."
The Charlotte Observer should be ashamed for allowing this inflammatory and flat untrue headline, but the Charlotte Observer (like its Raleigh counterpart) has no shame. The speakers are opposed to ILLEGAL immigration, and their views on the matter are shared by a large majority of North Carolinians. People in this country illegally should be entitled to one thing and one thing only - free deportation. Some loudmouthed "leftier than thou" types at UNC can silence speakers on the matter (apparently), but they are not changing opinions with their anti-speech antics. They are an embarrassment.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:15 AM
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7. Really? When the stated goal is to 'counter multiculturalism', I'd call that way beyond
being opposed to illegal immigration.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:44 AM
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8. the sponsoring group, not the speakers themselves
It is blatantly unfair and untrue to call either Goode or Tancredo "anti-immigration." There are lots of genuinely true nasty things to call these two - why did the Charlotte Observer feel it necessary to make up a lie for their headline?

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:34 AM
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10. Uh, Tancredo founded the group.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:42 PM
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17. Tancredo is actually anti-immigration: "I have to tell you that we are facing a situation, where if
we don't control immigration, legal and illegal, we will eventually reach the point where it won't be what kind of a nation we are, balkanized or united, we will actually have to face the fact that we are no longer a nation at all. That is the honest to God eventual outcome of this kind of massive immigration combined with the cult of multiculturalism that permeates our society"

<quote from:>
Tom Tancredo-Christian Crusader, Cultural Nationalist, and Iran Freedom Fighter
Tom Barry | May 24, 2006
IRC Right Web
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/rw/3281.html
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:02 AM
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20. Are you kidding? Tancredo DEFINES anti-immigration!
He's founder of the House anti-immigration caucus, whose members are almost exclusively ultra-right-wing social conservative Republicans. He's repeatedly attempted to forge links between immigrants and terrorists. He's championed legislation to deny immigrants - legal or illegal - due process protections, to restrict asylum and indefinitely imprison asylum seekers and their families whose only crime has been to flee repression, to implement a national ID card system which excludes most lawful documents available to legal immigrants, the list goes on and on. He's worked closely with such openly xenophobic groups as American Patrol, the Federation for American Immigration Reform, the Center for Immigration Studies, and the Council of Conservative Citizens to advance anti-immigrant proposals. I don't know where you're getting your information, but Tom Tancredo is the poster child of the US anti-immigration movement. If he's not anti-immigrant, then Hitler wasn't a racist.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:12 AM
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6. Now what is it that Youth for Western Civilization reminds me of? Oh yes, the Hitler Youth,
Hitler-Jugend (HJ).
Here are the goals of Youth for Western Civilization:

http://www.westernyouth.org/About/index.htm


What We Want to Accomplish

We want a campus movement that will accomplish three things:

1. Inspire Western youth to organize on the basis of pride in their American and Western heritage, and counter radical multiculturalism on campus.

2. Counter and ultimately defeat leftism on campus by pushing the activist agenda, changing college policies in a conservative or right wing direction, and restoring a curriculum that focuses on Western history, not political correctness.

3. Create a social movement on campus where a right wing subculture -- similar to the left wing subculture that currently exists -- will provide a healthy alternative to a poisonous and bigoted left wing campus climate.

In the long term, we want the majority of students to leave college more right wing than when they arrived. Eventually, we would like to start changing curriculum on campus to restore an emphasis on real education and classical learning, rather than trendy multiculturalism.


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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 02:44 PM
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11. No doubt that these kids are brown shirts in training n/t
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:27 PM
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14. Which group?
The ones that intend to prevent the speaker from speaking, or the ones who invited him?

One could claim that mildly brownshirt tactics are being used against mildly brownshirt speech.

Is it a case of losing "our" way, of using tactics that run counter to our values in order to fight for those values--yes, that's an allusion to Obama's anti-torture comments--or is it a case of the protesters' expressing their fundamental values, that free speech is only fine if it comports with their thinking?
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:40 PM
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16. That's what you do when you can't think of a cogent counter-argument
Rather than offer to debate, in a civilized manner, a speaker with whom you disagree, attempt to shout down the speaker so that nobody is able to hear him/her speak. Nothing speaks to the free exchange of ideas on a college campus quite like shouting down someone with whom one disagrees :sarcasm:
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:00 PM
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18. The group that embrace the Nazi anti-multiculturalism flag.
Tactics differ in many ways to ideologies
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:14 AM
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9. Goode?? What, was Foghorn Leghorn busy??
Not that I'm a fan of any of the schools, but I always thought inviting uneducated redneck demagogues to speak was more of a Wake Forest / N.C. State thing....
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 09:24 AM
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19. Ouch... that hurts!
(NC State alumna)
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:16 PM
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12. UPDATE: UNC braces for speech protests tonight

...

Goode said he planned to talk about affirmative action and touch on immigration if he has time. He said he wasn't sure who would be paying his speaking fee, or whether it would be $500 or $1,000, including travel cost.

Riley Matheson, Youth for Western Civilization's UNC chapter president, could not be reached Tuesday, nor could members of student groups involved in last week's protest.

Youth for Western Civilization's Web site says its purpose is to defeat leftism on campus.

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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 03:32 PM
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13. Note that both of these douches are *former* Congressmen
Kind of like with roaches, though; we can't rest 'til they're all gone.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 07:33 PM
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15. White Nationalist-Linked ‘Right-Wing Youth’ Group Debuts At CPAC
Posted in Hate on Campus by David Holthouse on February 26, 2009

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A well-funded new organization whose stated purpose is to launch a “right-wing youth movement” will make a splashy debut tonight at the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, in Washington, D.C. CPAC is billed as “the largest annual gathering of conservative students, activists and policymakers.”

According to CPAC materials, the group, Youth for Western Civilization, is one of the official co-sponsors, or major donors, of this year’s conference. The group has a booth in the CPAC exhibition hall, and its “Inaugural Reception” is scheduled to begin at 8:30 p.m. EST in the Palladium Ballroom at the Omni Shoreham Hotel.

In the past, CPAC organizers have shielded the reputation of their mainstream conservative enterprise by forbidding racist organizations like the Council of Conservative Citizens from participating. They may want to take a closer look at Youth for Western Civilization.

One of the group’s founders, Marcus Epstein, is a frequent contributor to the white nationalist hate website VDARE.com ... http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/02/26/white-nationalist-linked-right-wing-youth-group-debuts-at-cpac/
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 10:04 AM
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21. As much as I may despise the speakers or sponsoring group,
there is a little thing called freedom of speech and they should have the right to speak without being threatened or hurt.
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