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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:58 PM
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Rice delivered OK to waterboard as Bush's adviser
Source: AP

Rice delivered OK to waterboard as Bush's adviser

WASHINGTON – Then-national security adviser Condoleezza Rice verbally OK'd the CIA's request to subject alleged al-Qaida terrorist Abu Zubaydah to waterboarding in July 2002, a decision memorialized a few days later in a secret memo that the Obama administration declassified last week.

Rice's role was detailed in a narrative released Wednesday by the Senate Intelligence Committee. It provides the most detailed timeline yet for how the CIA's harsh interrogation program was conceived and approved at the highest levels in the Bush White House.

The new timeline shows that Rice played a greater role than she admitted last fall in written testimony to the Senate Armed Services Committee.

The narrative also shows that dissenting legal views about the severe interrogation methods were brushed aside repeatedly.

<snip>

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090423/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_interrogation_memos_senate
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 08:59 PM
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1. I wonder if she will be the one to take the fall for
Bush, Cheney, etc.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:00 PM
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2. Can you wear Ferragamo in prison?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:21 AM
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32. She can Wear an Orange Jumpsuit
Worthless POS

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:02 PM
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3. Well, that makes a tidy package!
I was wondering if they could throw Rice!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:02 AM
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23. Good one.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:04 PM
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4. Who could have ever imagined that?
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:07 PM
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5. I THought She Wanted To Run For President - Oops, That Plan Is Down In Flames
eom
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:05 AM
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24. She could never run for President as a Republican. Too many lesbian rumors. Whether true or not,
the campaign would become about that. And, without the neo theos, I doubt a Republican could win.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:23 PM
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6. McClatchy--Document: Cheney, Rice signed off on interrogation techniques
Document: Cheney, Rice signed off on interrogation techniques
By Margaret Talev, McClatchy Newspapers Margaret Talev, Mcclatchy Newspapers 2 hrs 36 mins ago

WASHINGTON — A newly declassified narrative of the Bush administration's advice to the CIA on harsh interrogations shows that the small group of Justice Department lawyers who wrote memos authorizing controversial interrogation techniques were operating not on their own but with direction from top administration officials, including then-Vice President Dick Cheney and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice.

At the same time, the narrative suggests that then-Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and then-Secretary of State Colin Powell were largely left out of the decision-making process.

The narrative, posted Wednesday on the Senate Intelligence Committee's Web site and released by its former chairman, Sen. Jay Rockefeller , D- W.Va. , came as Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that he'd "follow the evidence wherever it takes us" in deciding whether to prosecute any Bush administration officials who authorized harsh techniques that are widely considered torture.

In a statement accompanying the narrative's release, Rockefeller said the task of declassifying interrogation and detention opinions "is not complete" and urged prompt declassification of other opinions from 2006 and 2007 that he said would show how Bush Justice Department officials interpreted laws governing torture and war crimes.

These developments come days after the Obama administration declassified four Justice Department memos from 2002 and 2005 that revealed in detail authorized interrogation methods, such as waterboarding, which simulates drowning, sleep deprivation and putting detainees in containers with insects.

The drafting of the narrative began last summer, at the prompting of Rockefeller. The Senate Intelligence Committee staff drafted the document, with heavy input from the Bush administration, in a multi-department effort largely coordinated through the Director of National Intelligence's office.

<more>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20090422/wl_mcclatchy/3218102
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:24 PM
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7. The spin that will come from her, I can't wait to hear.
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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:31 PM
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8. Get your popcorn....
this oughta be good! :popcorn: :beer: (popcorn makes me thirsty :) )
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 09:42 PM
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9. Well, of COURSE, she did!1 n/t
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:06 PM
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10. who could have forseen that?
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:11 PM
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11. hmm who's holding the smoking gun now Condi? hmm?
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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:19 PM
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12. I'd give up my left nut to see that woman in handcuffs.
:D
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:13 AM
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16. I would also give up your left nut to see her in handcuffs.
:evilgrin:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:09 AM
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25. I'm not sure that's how it works, but thanks for your willingness to sacrifice for a worthy cause.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 10:47 PM
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13. Zelikow on Maddow Tues said Rice had "grave concerns" about all olf this . . .
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 10:53 PM by defendandprotect
i.e., TORTURE . . .

Zelikow says he was part of a State Department Team --

Zelikow said Rice "understood he was acting on her behalf in these matters."

Maybe the Zelikow memo was CYA . . . ??

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:18 AM
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26. I have NO use for this guy. He stayed silent while he could have led to an end to the practice and
speaks only now, after Obama has already ended it. He belongs in the tenth circle of Hell, in the same sack of all too belatedly self-exonerating wannabe Republican crap, as Colin Powell and Scott McClellan (who pisses me off even more now that I am having trouble with the c on my keyboard.)

(If you catch me when I'm in a bad mood, I'll tell you how I REALLY feel about them and their kind.)
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:15 PM
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14. Condoleezza is into sadism?
Edited on Wed Apr-22-09 11:17 PM by MilesColtrane
Wow, didn't see that one coming!

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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-22-09 11:32 PM
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15. +1 n/t
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CubicleGuy Donating Member (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 12:17 AM
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17. Condoleezza is into sadism?
I imagine it's what made her so darn attractive to Bush.

And of course, I can hardly wait to hear how Rice authorized torture completely on her own sayso, and that Bush will be shocked -- shocked, I tell you -- to hear that she ever did such a thing.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:47 AM
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22. Excellent choice! I saw that ensemble, too. Reminescent of Nixon's bloodthirsty puppet Pinochet.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:08 AM
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18. everyone knows you need water(boarding) to cook Rice
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 01:21 AM
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19. I'm shocked.
Snort
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BobTheSubgenius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 02:17 AM
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20. She was just conveying her husband's wishes.
No crime in that, surely. :eyes:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:21 AM
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27. That was a bizarre slip of the tongue (so to speak), wasn't it?
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Titonwan Donating Member (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 03:23 AM
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21. This silly reverse Oreo is one sick puppy.
I'm ashamed of Rice (and Powell to a certain extent) for doing anything for a position of power and showing race doesn't discriminate against assholes.
Send her ass to prison along with the rest. Good.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 04:24 AM
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28. They're assholes, all right, but no reason for members of any race, other than the human race,
Edited on Thu Apr-23-09 04:29 AM by No Elephants
to be ashamed of them.

If I had to feel shame over every asshole I resemble superficially, the burden would kill me. And, if I had to feel pride about all their accomplishments, that burden, too, would devastate my life. I am sure people of every race and ethnicity can say the same.

My own good and bad deeds and qualities are more than enough for me to cope with. And, I imagine that is true of most people. I refuse to own anyone else's.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 05:33 AM
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29. Sticks and stones may break her bones but...
Chains and whips arouse her...
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:06 AM
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30. Even BBC News are carrying this here in the UK
The CIA's use of waterboarding to interrogate terrorism suspects was approved by Condoleezza Rice as early as 2002, a senate report reveals.

As national security adviser, Ms Rice consented to the harsh interrogation of al-Qaeda suspect Abu Zubaydah, the Senate Intelligence Committee found.

>

The latest details were revealed in a timeline of the CIA's interrogation programme produced by the US Senate Intelligence Committee.

It shows Ms Rice and other top Bush administration officials were first briefed about "alternative interrogation methods, including waterboarding", in May 2002.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8013759.stm
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 06:09 AM
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31. Well! There goes her speaking fee receipts...eom
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-23-09 08:32 AM
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33. Waterboard Rice.
Then let's see what her opinion of TORTURE is.
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