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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:38 AM Original message |
Despite Reports, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed Was Not Waterboarded 183 Times |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. It's still Torture, and it's still a War Crime. It only takes one incident. |
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47of74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. It doesn't freaking matter! |
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WillParkinson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. "The water was poured 183 times -- there were 183 pours," the official explained, adding that "each |
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zazen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
4. sort of like "electrocutions," not "electrocution sessions:" whew, that's a relief! |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. exactly |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. So he was tied/held down 5 times |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
22. That's just as bad! |
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lakercub (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #22 |
34. It probably does work in seconds |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Exactly. They could have done 200 pours, for example, and then there would be something to squawk |
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Moonwalk (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Humane indeed. Remember... |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. They are scrambling for cover. nt |
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NOW tense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
7. Well that changes everything! |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
8. Pathetic |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. The suspect was shot one time with 19 bullets. The time each bullet was in the body was brief. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
11. They counted? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
12. They still stopped him from breathing 183 times |
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madmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
13. But if it wasn't torture, why should it matter? 183 pours vs 183 "sessions" tomato vs toMAto! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
14. Ay yay yay |
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ThisThreadIsSatire (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
15. Subject the concerned citizens at FOX News to merely 'a pour' |
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HelenWheels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
16. Fox is an entertainment network not a news network |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
17. This is like saying... "We should only get 5 life sentences rather than 183 life sentences". |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
18. So their defense is like spliting hairs on the difference between a Mass Murder and a Serial Killer. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
19. I bet they count one bucket as "a pour" |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. If you hold someone's head under the water for 10 minutes how many "pours" is that? |
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sweettater (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. I know this is no |
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matt819 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
20. Okay, then, 183 pours is okay |
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sweettater (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Pour? |
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RalphieD (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
21. Not good enough |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
23. "183 pours, each pour a matter of seconds" Well alrighty then! What's the fuss? |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. Anything that has to be done 183 times |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
25. Oh, Really? 183 is good enough number until a war crime tribunal counts em. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
29. and it actually wasn't water - it was tea - really it was a tea party - no harm, no foul |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
30. Why is anyone believing this? "A U.S. offical" doesn't mean diddly |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. How long on the board? |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
33. "each pour was a matter of seconds." No. Each pour was a matter of... |
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nbcouch (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
35. Torture supporters know no shame |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
36. This part bothers me too: |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
37. So if they get horsewhipped 50 times each session, but only five sessions... |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
38. You know who kept accurate records of their own atrocities.... |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
39. This is what the defenders of torture have been reduced to??? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
40. It was torture the first time they did it, it was torture the last time. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Gee, I wonder which official familiar with torture is giving Fox classified into. Some Dick or . |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. Ah! So they tortured just a little bit. That excuses it then. n/t |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. How many pours did the executed Japanese commit? /nt |
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TacticalPeek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
45. One hundred and eighty-three lashes for ye, matey, delivered Monday-Friday. |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
46. Okay, so when Sean Hannity gets waterboarded |
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DebbieCDC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. Well if it's no big deal, when's Hannity going to live up to his promise? |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I for one do NOT want to see Sean's cojones--even when he is |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
48. Fixed Noise? RIGHT!!!!!!!!! |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
49. This is obviously the equivalent of... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's like being punched 183 times |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-29-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
51. Gee thanks! That makes only light waterboarding. |
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Old Hank (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-30-09 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
53. Why would they pour water if not to engage in torture |
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