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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:56 AM
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Source: Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used
Edited on Wed May-13-09 09:23 AM by kpete
Source: CNN

Source: Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used

updated 11:52 p.m. EDT, Tue May 12, 2009
From Deirdre Walsh
CNN Congressional Producer

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A source close to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi now confirms that Pelosi was told in February 2003 by her intelligence aide, Michael Sheehy, that waterboarding was actually used on CIA detainee Abu Zubaydah.

Source says Nancy Pelosi didn't object about waterboard usage because she wasn't personally briefed about it.

This appears to contradict Pelosi's account that she was never told waterboarding actually happened, only that the administration was considering using it.

Sheehy attended a briefing in which waterboarding was discussed in February 2003, with Rep. Jane Harman, D-California, who took over Pelosi's spot as the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.

This source says Pelosi didn't object when she learned that waterboarding was being used because she had not been personally briefed about it -- only her aide had been told.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/12/pelosi.waterboarding/index.html
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 08:58 AM
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1. Two words:
Special prosecutor.

And let the chips fall where they may.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:32 AM
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7. +1
and televeise the whole fucking thing from beginning to end.

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:10 PM
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20. She is part of this Outrage
I hope the truth does come out. These ass clowns who allowed Bush to murder thousands of these people, should also pay for their complicity and conspiracy.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 03:40 PM
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21. you should post the comment on your profile as its own post.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:06 AM
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2. Does this source have a name? (n/t)
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PhilosopherKing Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:07 AM
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3. Why is this all of a sudden about
pelosi and not about the assholes in the Bush admin who ordered the torture? Liberal media my ass!
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:13 AM
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4. They found a skirt to hide behind.
Nothing is out of bounds for the bushies when they're writing their legacy.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:21 AM
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5. The Republicans may be out of power...
But they still seem to be able to control the message on some topics...However, I think starting today the message will be focused where it should! However, if this so-called source is true then Pelosi has some questions to answer!

I agree! Special Prosecutor and let the shit come out in the wash!!!!!!!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:56 AM
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11. Because she was the one that said impeachment was off the table
Edited on Wed May-13-09 09:58 AM by Javaman
so if she knew full well water boarding was going on, she is complicit in their cover up.

the investigation wouldn't just stop with pelosi, it would include anyone and everyone that had knowledge that torture was being used. Period.

She's just the target du jour for the moment. Until she coughs up the truth, she will continue to be in the bullseye. Her dripping out the truth is certainly not helping her and makes her just as suspect.

Fling the doors open appoint a special prosecutor and let the investigations begin. When it ends and whom it entails that has yet to be seen, but if they are guilty, let them fry. Both Dem and repuke.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:28 AM
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6. This isn't about Pelosi.
She was not in the position to implement Bush policy. BUSH WAS. This is about the Bush/Cheney war criminals and their Republican cohorts breaking International law. I want to know the name of every single Republican who knew about torture and condoned it. They were the majority party at the time, and this is on THEIR HEADS. The 'pubs are pulling bait and switch, and it's not going to work.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:32 AM
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8. One more thing...
The 'pubs are fucking with the Democrats. They know we expect them to be murdering, torturing pieces of shit, but we don't really expect that of our own representatives, so they are seeking to distract us, hoping we'll turn on ourselves rather than focus on the real issue: Bush/Cheney and the Republican Party are torturers and war criminals who violated the rule of law that this country once held sacred. If they have their way, Torture, Detainment and Pre-meditated war will be US policy. We cannot let this happen. Every one of these vile pieces of shit needs to be prosecuted.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:43 AM
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9. Shocked....and I thought "Impeachment is Off the table" was for the country's good and
not just covering her ass... D'Oh
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proud progressive Donating Member (358 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 09:54 AM
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10. as corrupt and as criminal as bush and co. were, is anyone surprised by this?
OF COURSE the dems in leadership knew more than than they admit. they were in a panic like everyone else back then. they trusted this new president. they were wrong!
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:25 AM
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12. I STILL trust the new president
We elected the smart guy, remember?

You would have had much more to complain about under McPalin.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 10:42 AM
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13. The poster seems to be referrng to 2001. n/t
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 11:28 AM
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14. My sincere apologies. NT.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:37 PM
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15. I still think they were threatened, and knew the bushies were good on their threats
after seeing what they "allowed" happen to NYC and New Orleans. Remember around this time whenever Dick "Bunker" Cheney went on TV he was hissing about nukes in US cities.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:54 PM
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16. Not to mention those nasty little letters
Edited on Wed May-13-09 12:56 PM by CJCRANE
with white powder in them...
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 02:06 PM
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19. Yeah, I hope I live long enough for all their dirty secrets to be exposed. nt
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 12:56 PM
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17. read it again, and see now
Edited on Wed May-13-09 01:06 PM by jsamuel
So, Pelosi was not briefed on it. One of her aides was briefed on it. The aide then informed Pelosi.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-13-09 01:01 PM
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18. Oh brother - trying to muddy the waters. WHO authorized torture & WHO carried it out?
Let's fucking start there.

I know the depraved torture advocates are trying to make us eat our own, but I say let's start at the beginning - WHO the fuck made us ALL complicit in torture (as Americans) and WHO did the actual torturing?

I'm not that easily distracted.
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