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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:53 AM
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Cheney sharply criticizes Obama on terrorism
Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON, May 21 (Reuters) - Former Vice President Dick Cheney on Thursday sharply criticized President Barack Obama's handling of terrorism policy and defended harsh interrogation methods that Obama has labeled torture.

In a speech at the American Enterprise Institute on the same day Obama defended his approach to terrorism, Cheney said Obama's decision to ban tough tactics "is unwise in the extreme."

"It is recklessness cloaked in righteousness and would make the American people less safe," said Cheney, long viewed as a leading hawk in the Bush administration.

He took particular aim at Obama's decision to close the U.S. military prison for foreign terrorism suspects at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba. The detention center, which currently houses 240 inmates, opened in 2002 as part of Republican President George W. Bush's war on terrorism and Obama wants it closed by January 2010.

Read more: http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N21274051.htm
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:56 AM
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1. Mr. Five Deferments is such an expert on keeping us safe, isn't he!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:39 AM
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16. He had "other priorities." nt
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dothemath Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:09 PM
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20. I'll come back and ..........................
A hundred years from now, when pigs are flying and fish are no longer shitting in the ocean, GW might get an attaboy or two from a soulmate (meaning brother idiot).

But, if Dick gets even one, I will come back and piss on his grave - for the
next hundred years.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:57 AM
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2. 9/11 happened under Cheney's watch
He should enjoy his retirement and pray that Democrats on the Hill are too spineless to issue an arrest warrant for him.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:58 AM
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3. Like the Chickenhawk Republicons had, or have, a clue
Edited on Thu May-21-09 11:01 AM by SpiralHawk
They ignored over 60 freaking documented warnings before 9/ll -- and then failed America disastrously in her hour of need.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/10/politics/10terror.html

I can find no reason to support these lameass excuse bleatings and attack from a Republicon clown with Five Military Deferments, or from his AWOL preppy boss, Bush.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 10:58 AM
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4. Treasonous bastard.
That's what some who criticized GW when he was in office was called by the shills for the war.

So take a hint Dick. Get off the stage. Your play is over. The audience has left.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:03 AM
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5. If we did not have a political
aristocracy in this country all Obama would have to say is,"He is saying that to cover his ass as he knows he could be sent to the Hague and imprisoned for breaking the law " That meme would go viral in hours and put a stop to this but instead there is this politeness because we don't ever imprison officials at this level.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:04 PM
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19. It may go viral but it's bullshit
The US is not a signatory on the World Court so there is no way for him to be tried in the Hague. That said, I would have no problem and would stand and cheer if he didn't tell Cheney to shut his fucking mouth or he'd get indicted right here in the US.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 08:56 AM
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24. Maybe we should pressure Obama and the Senate to join the International Criminal Court.
Edited on Fri May-22-09 08:59 AM by No Elephants
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:06 AM
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6. Hey DICK, the American people don't trust you AT ALL. Nobody cares what you think except wing nuts.
You are talking to yourself.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:07 AM
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7. this all but guarentees an investigation
let the truth come out, we need to know
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:20 AM
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11. didn't you get the memo? Obama met w/progressives and said
"there will be no investigations of Bush administration, no 9/11 commissions on torture".
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:02 PM
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18. Hardly, why do you think Dick continues to rant and rave.
Edited on Thu May-21-09 12:02 PM by RJ Connors
Cause he knows nothing is going to be done about it.

Save for maybe a lot of talk.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:09 AM
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8. Cheney should think himself lucky..
that he isn't facing prosecution and imprisonment for his actions. He is a vile excuse for a human being.
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:18 AM
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9. "harsh interrogation methods that Obama has labeled torture"
Talk about slanted, wingnut biased "journalism"!

Obama hasn't "labeled" these methods as torture, they are defined as torture by the Geneva Conventions and several other laws and treaties...
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:32 AM
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15. Contact the media and complain...
...loudly. JMHO.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:19 AM
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10. This is news?
Seems like a day wouldn't be complete without some nasty remark from that jerk.

I really can't stand that man.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:22 AM
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12. We need to contact news media who covered this and...
Edited on Thu May-21-09 11:31 AM by YvonneCa
...register our opinions. They covered Cheney LIVE on several cable channels. What about Vice President Al Gore's speeches about the run-up to the Iraq War? Why didn't they cover THOSE? Here is my email:

This email is about MSNBC's coverage of Cheney on May 21st.
I turned on MSNBC this morning to see FORMER Vice President Dick Cheney making his case for war and torture...AGAIN...WITH FULL MEDIA COVERAGE. That, in my opinion, is ridiculous and unfair.

I obviously support President Obama and his policies. But I have to tell you that my outrage is because of your(and CNN's) organization's unfairness.

During the run-up to the war in Iraq, former Vice President Al Gore was speaking out against it...and a citizen had to either read his speeches online, or (in the case of later speeches) buy them from C-Span and play them on a DVD player. NO ONE covered him...let alone broadcast his speeches live.

Why is THIS Vice President given such priviledge...especially at this critical time in our history? I contend he does not deserve it, and it will only further divide the country and prevent our current President from being successful.

MSNBC is wrong to broadcast this speech today.Further, you should now broadcast Al Gore's speech...given in 2005 at Constitution Hall in Washington D.C. You can find it at c-span.org.


http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=190733-1

I hope some of you will join me. :)

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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:25 AM
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13. Yeah and just think of how much safer we would be if we used Genocide.
Except that once the world was only inhabited by Americans. Then we could only use the Genocide domestically to keep the select few safe. Then your life depends upon your ability to placate the fears of a bunch of paranoid delusionals. Maybe it's delusional paranoids? That all depends upon if their fears bring their delusions or their delusion bring on their fear. OMG! What if the paranoid delusionals begin feeding into the delusional paranoids. :eyes: We don't need torture. They need Psychiatrists!
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:31 AM
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14. I'm starting to think Cheney is nuts. Bona fide nuts.
He's become obsessed and is making little sense. In one sentence he suggests opening secret records, in the next keeping them closed.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:44 AM
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17. Why do people still give him a microphone?
Shouldn't he be in prison by now?
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Necon-Be-Gone Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 12:21 PM
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21. Fact of the matter is....
that Cheney has been dead wrong on everything. He thought he could fabricate intelligence to justify a war with Iraq to steal their oil. He didn't realize that Shock & Awe wouldn't lead to Iraqis handing over their oil to US corporations.

His failed plan to control the world by controlling it's oil, killed thousands of US troops, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

Cheney has made the world less safe.

Cheney is the one who outed a CIA agent and undermined it's WMD surveillance program.

Cheney undermined the CIA by fabricating intelligence instead of listening to them.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-22-09 07:30 AM
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23. Stuff it, monkey boy.
You want to torture? Move to a banana republic. Because that's not what this country stands for.

Oh, and you get a point for using the word "evolved" correctly in a sentence.
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