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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:57 PM
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Four states adopt 'no-smiles' policy for driver's licenses
Source: USA Today

Stopping driver's license fraud is no laughing matter: Four states are ordering people to wipe the grins off their faces in their license photos.

"Neutral facial expressions" are required at departments of motor vehicles (DMVs) in Arkansas, Indiana, Nevada and Virginia. That means you can't smile, or smile very much. Other states may follow.

The serious poses are urged by DMVs that have installed high-tech software that compares a new license photo with others that have already been shot. When a new photo seems to match an existing one, the software sends alarms that someone may be trying to assume another driver's identity.

But there's a wrinkle in the technology: a person's grin. Face-recognition software can fail to match two photos of the same person if facial expressions differ in each photo, says Carnegie Mellon University robotics professor Takeo Kanade.



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-05-25-licenses_N.htm
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 04:58 PM
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1. I Hate Smiling for Photos, Anyway
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blue_onyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:00 PM
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2. I look so angry when I don't smile
but the article says "slight smiles" are acceptable.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:12 PM
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4. My passport photo looks like a mugshot...
they told me not to smile, so I didn't. And I didn't have makeup on, so in February, I looked like a pasty criminal. It breaks the ice with the Fatherland security folks at the airport.
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paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:48 PM
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11. that's called 'doing the mona lisa'
or at least should be
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:11 PM
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3. they'll have to find a way to make the DMV an unpleasant place
make sure no one's happy there.
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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 02:49 AM
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24. Have you been to the DMV?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 07:03 AM
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25. Like being booked into a jail
A more unfriendly place could never be found
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:15 PM
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5. Some states are also requiring that people remove eyeglasses for the same reason.
Asinine low tech software.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:22 PM
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7. OK, just so long as they also remove them while driving.
Otherwise, when a cop stops you, how will s/he know that you're the person with the picture on the license.

;-)
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:21 PM
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6. Already that way on passport ID photos.
But I want to know about the state laws requiring the use of the most-idiotic photo possible on the DL.

;-)
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:25 PM
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8. I prefer to smile very wide. It's because I've never seen a picture of someone smiling that wasn't
beautiful.

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mascarax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:43 PM
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9. Huh?
Edited on Tue May-26-09 05:45 PM by mascarax
This statement is way too generic (sure, algorighms can fail): <<Face-recognition software can fail to match two photos of the same person if facial expressions differ in each photo>>

If the damn photos were the same - or nearly the same, then facial recognition technology would be utterly pointless (smile or no). It depends on the algorithm(s) used.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:44 PM
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10. Is it okay to leer?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:10 PM
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13. Is it OK to invoke fear in the eyes of the beholder when being carded ?
Arkansas, Indiana, Nevada and Virginia are losers
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 05:59 PM
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12. I always end up looking like a stoned biker
And they can kiss my rosy red if they think they're gonna try making me shave my beard...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:14 PM
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14. My driver's license makes me look like an Iranian terrorist.
I'm Italian.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 06:15 PM
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15. Nice to know when I'm on the lam from Big Brother.
All I have to do to avoid detection is grin like an idiot.
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bluedigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:12 PM
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16. I like the way you think!
:hide:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:39 AM
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29. That's what I was thinking

If one is going to commit a crime, they should just grin like a grinning monkey to foil any attempts at getting caught by facial recognition programs.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:18 PM
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17. I grew a beard since my last driver's license photo

I guess beards and mustaches or absence thereof is also going to be required to be permanent.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:29 PM
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18. When are they going to tattoo our DNA number on our forearm?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 07:43 PM
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19. I put on my best gangsta "Mad Dog" stare for pictures anyway.
If you smile people think you're a punk. :P
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tabbycat31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:50 PM
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20. that is insane
I'm sorry but I smiled in my DL photo. Why should i have a photo that looks like it's out of a police lineup?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 09:51 PM
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21. The solution is to give the Spock Eyebrow to the camera
What?

Spock's emotionally neutral...
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 10:11 PM
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22. So now that the economy sucks so badly, is this really a problem?
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-26-09 11:04 PM
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23. No worry, after going through the DMV, I'm not exactly in a smiling mood anyway.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 09:49 AM
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26. Drivers license?

We don't need no stinken driver license.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 11:14 AM
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27. easier to use as a mug shot. nt
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-27-09 06:32 PM
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28. Jesus H. Christ what next?
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