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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 06:59 AM
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'Angry' Manchester United fan kills four in bus attack, police say
Source: CNN

A man "angered" by Manchester United's defeat to Barcelona in the final of the Champions League killed four people when he drove a minibus into a crowd celebrating the Spanish side's victory, police in Nigeria have told CNN.

Ten people were also injured in the incident in the town of Ogbo, where the driver was subsequently arrested, a Port Harcourt Police spokesperson said.
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Meanwhile, more than 100 people were arrested in Barcelona city center in the early hours of Thursday morning following the Catalan team's 2-0 victory in Rome in the final of Europe's top club competition.

Police arrested 119 young people after violence flared at a special celebration party in Place de Catalunya near the Las Ramblas thoroughfare, while 238 people suffered minor injuries.

Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SPORT/football/05/29/nigeria.death.united.barcelona/index.html?iref=mpstoryview



Too many bloody football fans are still violent idiots, around the world.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 07:24 AM
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1. You have it backwards
What's a violent idiot going to do with his spare time? Watch football.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:13 AM
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2. Ban soccer
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:48 AM
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5. Over my dead body.
You've got about 1 billion people worldwide watching the CL final. Something was bound to happen somewhere.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:42 PM
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23. Then the thugs will just find another excuse
If all games were banned except chess, you'd get chess hooligans.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:22 AM
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3. I don't get soccer hooliganism.
I don't see this sports fans doing that crap here in the US.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:49 AM
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6. To be fair, this wasn't hooliganism
This was a sicko with a minibus.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:08 AM
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8. What's our current ratio of burned cars
To NBA championships? How about the brawling around Texas HS football?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 10:21 AM
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9. Well, except for the aftermath of practically every major sporting event
Riots in the winning city seem to be de rigeur. I still remember the story of the young woman killed in Boston after the Red Sox beat the Yankees in 2004. It isn't usually anger that drives the mayhem and destruction following a big sports game in the U.S., but alcohol-fueled exuberance that goes sour some time during the night's revels.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:08 PM
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12. Go to a Raiders game sometime.
Or hang out in LA after the Lakers win an NBA final. Alcohol + euphoria + the tribalism of sport and you're bound to have a few problems.

Considering the number of people worldwide that followed the CL Final so closely I think it"s a tribute that so few incidents occurred.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 12:05 PM
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19. Sports hooliganism has a long and colorful history including plenty in the US, in fact
the Byzantium Empire experienced a serious crisis when violent sports hooligans rioted for days bringing the city to a stop.
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finisterre531 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:33 PM
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20. Watch the Special on HBO
How H.S. football and Basketball stars are killed by angry fans
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:58 PM
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24. The US has gangs; Europe has football hooligans
Football is just the surface excuse for angry, directionless idiots to band together and start anarchy.

I realized how similar it was when a lot of pubs I went to in the UK banned "football colors" much like a lot of places here ban gang colors.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 08:22 AM
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4. I think in the first sentence, the quotations marks should be around the word "man"
and not "angered."
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 09:21 AM
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7. Clearly the only rational solution is to ban minibuses
Nobody needs to drive a minibus.
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oldironside Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 04:55 PM
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10. Ban minibuses?
The answer is to ban Manchester United. Then, those sad, inadequate individuals looking for friends would have to face up to the fact that they are sad, inadequate individuals looking for friends.

West Ham till I die, but I don't want anyone else to die to prove it. :-)
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:02 PM
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11. What is it with football hooligans?
Are there any studies on the phenomena?
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:10 PM
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13. This wasn't hooliganism at all
Hoolies are gangs of fans who beat on other hoolies; it's very structured and rarely involves non-hooligans at all.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:22 PM
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14. Maybe not, but my bet is that it stems from the same source
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Sultana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:28 PM
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15. FUCKING SCUM!
Edited on Fri May-29-09 05:28 PM by Sultana
:o

As a Man Utd supporter, you win some, you lose some. There's no need to kill ppl over it, just suck it up and move on.

Absolutely disgusting, idiots STOP ruining the beautiful game. :grr:
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-29-09 05:49 PM
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16. They haven't ruined anything
any more than Raiders fans ruin football, rioting fans burning cars ruin basketball, or fighting players ruin hockey. It has nothing whatever to do with the sport.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 05:28 AM
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17. It ruined it in the 80s; English clubs were banned from European competition
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/2/newsid_2494000/2494963.stm

and as the sidebar notes, there's been trouble up to 2000.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:40 PM
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22. No but they've interfered with the right of genuine fans to enjoy the game in peace
and sometimes with the right of British teams to compete in places that don't want to get the thugs. The football hooligans are a big long-term pain in the arse over here.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 02:03 PM
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25. I remember last year when Man Utd and Chelsea were in the CL final in Moscow
Russia banned a couple dozen well-known shit-stirring British hooligans from traveling to the game; I think they were ordered to surrender their passports to the government for the week prior to the game. Their mothers must be proud that they've achieved international notoriety for their hooliganism :crazy:
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:20 AM
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29. Yep, hoolies are a pain in the arse
When I go to the football I like being able to mingle with the opposing fans before (and possibly after) the game, have a bit of banter and a laugh.

I'm not interested in being part of a big gang who cause trouble for everyone else.
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 03:17 AM
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28. "you win some, you lose some"
That's not the attitude of your average Man U fan.

Man U fans tend to support Man U mainly on the basis that they win almost all the time. They are world famous glory hunters.

Mind you, Man U fans aren't big hoolies these days. In fact they aren't even seen as being all that passionate.
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Bombero1956 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-30-09 09:17 AM
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18. say what you will about Nascar
but you never see this crap after any race. Sure there may be a few rowdy fans at the track but they are dealt with by security or police. I challenge anyone to find an instance of some Jeff Gordon fan killing a fan of Tony Stewart or any other driver. This stuff only happens with stick and ball sports.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 07:42 PM
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26. I'm amazed we do so well - maybe tradition helps.
Even these days, the only incedent(s) I hear about involve disagreements about dead presidents - either about those ol' boys at the strip bettin' too many Franklin's on the Big Dog 8, or somebody's "funding" issues spilling over into their racin' life.

And then there's the argument that racer's are the kind of guys who finish fights, not the kind who start 'em. The flagman maybe useta be Golden Gloves, The NASCAR inspector is an off-duty state cop, and the track champ's ManMountain Joe the pitman brought his kids tonight for the fireworks. That's how it went where I grew up.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 01:38 PM
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21. Disgusting
There are too many people in the world who seem to NEED something to be violent about. Gangsters without a gang; terrorists without an ideology.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-03-09 12:17 PM
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30. True as a fact, that n/t
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rabs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-02-09 09:17 PM
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27. There is a very famous quote about the passion football generates around the world


Former Liverpool manager Bill Shankly’s comment: “Football is never a matter of life and death, it’s much more important than that”, may have been tongue in cheek, but over the course of the last 100 years, his statement has a distinctly uneasy ring of truth about it.

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Colombian defender Andres Escobar

I was at a match between Netherlands and Ireland in 1994 in Orlando when the World Cup was held in several cities in the United States. Before the game began, the 70,000-plus fans were asked to stand in silence and prayer for one minute for Andres Escobar, a Colombian footballer who had been assassinated days before in Medellin.

Escobar had scored an own-goal enabling the United States to advance and eliminating Colombia.

Video of the goal that cost Escobar his life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUW8wFOytiY



(From Wiki)

Escobar was a defender for Colombia in the FIFA World Cup in 1990 and 1994. His jersey number was 2, and was known by the nicknames "El Caballero del Futbol" ("The Gentleman of Football" or "Football's Knight") and "The Immortal Number 2". In his club career, he played for Medellín side Atlético Nacional and Swiss side Young Boys Bern. He scored his only regular international goal in a 1–1 draw against England at Wembley in 1988.

Escobar's infamous own goal occurred in a match against the United States on 22 June during the 1994 FIFA World Cup. Stretching to cut out a cross from U.S. midfielder John Harkes, he deflected the ball into his own net in the second match of Group A. The USA won the game 2–1, and as a result, Colombia was eliminated from the tournament in the first round.


Death
On July 2, 1994, Escobar was shot outside "El Indio" bar, located in a Medellín suburb. According to Escobar's girlfriend, the killer shouted "Gooooooooooooool!" (mimicking South American sporting commentators for their calls after a goal is scored) for each of the 12 bullets fired.

The murder was widely believed to be a punishment for the own goal.<1> It is not clear whether the murderer was one of the gambling syndicates who had bet large amounts of money on Colombia to qualify for the second round.


Murderer
Humberto Muñoz Castro was found guilty of Escobar's murder in June 1995 and sentenced to 43 years in prison. Muñoz had been working as a bodyguard.

The sentence was later reduced to 26 years due to his submitting to the ruling penal code in 2001. Muñoz was released on good behavior due to further reductions from prison work and study in 2005 after serving approximately 11 years, in a controversial move

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