1 dead after car runs gate at Ariz. air base

[Robb]

Source: MSNBC

One man was killed and another injured after they drove a stolen car through the entrance to Luke Air Force Base in Arizona and security forces opened fire, police said.

The car went through the entrance without stopping as required and security forces then used a vehicle to set up a roadblock on a bridge leading to the operational side of the base, near Glendale, Capt. Jerry Gonzalez, a spokesman for the base, told msnbc.com.

Police said the car drove directly at a security officer who feared for his life and opened fire.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35539115/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

[hlthe2b]

1. well, that was insane...

hmmmm....

[Raschel]

5. Not well planned.

:crazy:

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[slackmaster]

4. Not Terrorism

:nuke:

[corkhead]

12. Looks more like a Darwin Award

[liberal N proud]

17. Must not be a middle eastern name

I didn't see any named in the article of the occupants of the car.

[FSogol]

6. Toyota or more Tea Bagger "Heroics"? n/t

[seeinfweggos]

13. lol nt

[Garbo 2004]

7. Happened last night. Local Arizona news report link:

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/1-suspect-dead-1-injured-after-allegedly-trying-to-run-down-Luke-AFB-security-officer-85035567.html

[Rosa Luxemburg]

8. I was wondering whether it was

due to a Toyota again! I guess not.

[tomhayes]

9. Why does private security guard bases??

I still can't figure that out.

[RaleighNCDUer]

10. I didn't see where it said 'private security' - just 'security officer'.

I assume it was base police.

[DissedByBush]

15. It's cheaper

Need for guards goes up and down, so contracting you can have as many as you need without having to employ a bunch you would have to lay off from time to time.

The base police are still there, patrolling and other police things. They're also ready to come to the gate in case something actually happens.

Using soldiers for this is somehow now considered a waste of resources. I was on guard duty a LOT during the 80s.

They're backed up during high alert times. I remember a civilian-guarded gate once, but there was a humvee with a .50 machine gun about 200 feet back on a rise.

Interesting this post didn't have the barriers. The guards push a button and a 4-foot high wall pops up down the road in about 1/2 second. They can stop a dump truck cold.

[kimi]

16. Don't know about Luke AFB

But private security guards work the gates at Walter Reed, which always struck me as sort of odd.

[jmowreader]

23. Private security doesn't get out of the Air Force after four years

When it comes to defending bases against attack you have three options:

1) get a school-trained Security Police officer to stand guard at each ammo bunker, airfield gate or other thing needing guarded. Advantage is they're graduates of the SP school so they know what they're doing; disadvantage is the Air Force doesn't have enough of them to go around.

2) use a zoomie pulled out of the ranks to guard these things. Advantage is they're cheaper than rent-a-cops; disadvantages include the need to let the guy take the next day off so he doesn't fall asleep while he's putting your plane's engine back together.

3) hire rent-a-cops, which is what they do. Advantage is they know the base better than the troops do, security is their whole job so they're good at it, and it falls in line with the Air Force tradition of outsourcing as much service support to the civilian sector as they possibly can. If the Air Force has an endstrength of 300,000, they want all 300,000 zoomies out there either shooting down bad guys or doing something directly related to that mission. If they can job it out to civilians, they do so.

[Romulox]

11. So...what kind of Toyota was it?

:rofl:

[cowman]

14. Dumbassess

You just don't fuck with Air Force Security Police

[Blue_Tires]

18. even pre 9-11, any stranger getting cute at the gate of a base

would be looking up at 20 barrels in a split second...

[Robb]

19. I would think that's kind of the idea behind bases, even. nt

[joshcryer]

21. The gates were open before 9/11. Most bases you could just drive right on.

[Pavulon]

22. Many dont. The naval weapons station near charleston sc

comes to mind. They have had several incidents there. They probably never made national news.

[Pavulon]

20. Pretty standard.

running the gates is not an option at many posts.