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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:54 AM
Original message
BREAKING NEWS: USDA to reconsider ouster of official Shirley Sherrod over race comments
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 01:22 AM by guitar man
Source: MSNBC

BREAKING NEWS: USDA to reconsider ouster of official Shirley Sherrod over race comments

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edited to update link and add excerpt:

USDA to reconsider ousting of worker over race charges
Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said early Wednesday that his department will reconsider the ouster of an employee who resigned over alleged race comments.

His statement came after civil rights leaders said they were "snookered" into believing a conservative website's charges of racism against employee Shirley Sherrod were true.

Vilsack said that he will "conduct a thorough review and consider additional facts" about his decision to ask Sherrod to resign.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38321920/ns/us_news-life/



Yippee!!
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:55 AM
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1. Recommended.
:hi:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:18 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. AP Story:
USDA reconsiders employee ouster over race remarks

By BEN EVANS and MARY CLARE JALONICK, Associated Press Writers – 19 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack says he will reconsider the department's decision to oust a black employee over racially tinged remarks after learning more about what she said.

Vilsack said in a statement early Wednesday morning that he will "conduct a thorough review and consider additional facts" about his decision to ask Shirley Sherrod to resign.

Sherrod, who was the Agriculture Department's director of rural development in Georgia, criticized the administration for pushing her to resign Monday after a blogger posted an edited video of her saying that she didn't give a white farmer as much help as she could have 24 years ago.

Sherrod says her remarks were part of a story about racial reconciliation, not racism.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:17 AM
Response to Reply #12
54. Wouldn't it have been wise to learn more about what she said FIRST
before ousting her?

Pfft.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:03 AM
Response to Reply #54
94. That's exactly what I was thinking.
I can't believe they're actually taking Fox News at their word over someone like Shirley Sherrod. Sad; very sad.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #94
136. Yeah it's ridiculous
especially considering the NAACP had the full tape. All they had to do was look at it first. Dumb.
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #94
139. It's worse than that......
.....the NAACP came out against her comments.....presumably from people that actually heard the comments. I guess the excuse is that many people are nodding off during that type of talk at a conference (I can relate), but there is no excuse for refusing to review her comments before blasting her.

We are in a difficult position when FOX is supported by Obama's Dept. of Ag and the NAACP. Unforced error.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:46 AM
Response to Reply #54
102. Nah. It seems the order of the day is to appease GOPers and the M$M
at every turn.

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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #102
163. +1111111
Wnen confronted by the RW over even the most trivial of issues, they fold like cheap suit. Golly, I'm soooo proud that they are MY elected officials. :eyes:

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #102
180. I am mad as hell at how easily thrown under the bus people are by Pres Obama......
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 04:55 PM by ElsewheresDaughter
at every fucking crazy wim of the lunatic's on right.

I truly hope that he learns this lesson well because it really does is makes him and his admin. look weak
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:56 PM
Response to Reply #54
181. Yes, exactly. How many "assistants" does a Sec of Agric have?...........
..............IF, he was totally responsible for the decision to fire her, the least he SHOULD do is resign. Shit, just for the stupidity, for crying out loud.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:56 AM
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2. Public pressure is a beautiful thing
And some people advocate us shutting up. Why is that?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:58 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. Public pressure and coverage is so often the only thing that really works. nt
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skeewee08 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #4
157. agree
sad but true
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #2
27. Legal pressure too.
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 02:44 AM by dencol
She ought to sue her employer for jumping the gun and being reckless and discriminatory. I doubt this would have happened if she happened to be a white male.

On edit, and I know people don't like this, but I think Vilsack should be pressured to resign for jumping the shark.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #27
36. Then she should consider suing the NAACP as well?
I agree EVERYONE jumped the gun and this should be a very valuable lesson not to allow FOX "News" to influence ANY decision on ANY issue!

I love the idea of "No Drama Obama" but the reality of that idea I am quickly not liking!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #36
90. NAACP has already & swiftly apologized---Dept of Ag is "reconsidering" it
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #36
156. she can sue NAACP for libel but its much harder than suing employers
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #156
159. Hopefully her employer will do the right thing!
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #159
160. yup
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #36
175. It's ridiculous that you would defend an employer for unduly demanding a resignation.
nt
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 09:29 AM
Response to Reply #175
193. I KNOW it is ridiculous that you make shit up! nt
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #193
194. What did I make up?
Shit isn't very clear. Defend your position if you're so passionate about it.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-23-10 07:09 AM
Response to Reply #194
195. Don't play stupid just bc you jumped the gun on my comment...
You made one very incorrect statement which I described as "SHIT"...Now go back and figure it out!

HINT: If you need even further clarity on my position look at the next comment I made before you came in firing off "SHIT" that had nothing to do with what I said or meant.

One would think when it came to a story about people jumping the gun over misrepresented facts you would have taken the time to at least understood my comment before attacking my position...Or maybe you are no better than Brietbart and ignoring facts is just what you do?

Do what is correct and apologize for at least jumping the gun and at worst knowingly misrepresenting what I said...I will be waiting.

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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:54 AM
Response to Reply #2
32. Maybe because
IOKIYD, in a Democrat administration, to be A-OK with Authoritarianism?

...just a wild guess.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:03 AM
Response to Reply #2
74. Wasn't it public pressure that made her lose her job in the first place? n/t
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:49 AM
Response to Reply #74
85. Honestly even today the vast vast majority of Americans have no idea who she is...
Outside of nursing homes and people waiting to get their tires rotated I am constantly (and pleasantly) surprised how few people pay any attention to 24 hour news.


I admit I am one of them.

If it wasn't for DU I would never had heard this story.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #85
108. well . . . it is certainly all over the news this morning
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #108
118. True but it's July no-one pays any attention to the news unless something happens.
We are in the middle of silly season and the average American as well as the above average American has better things to do with their life then watch fox, CNN, the Today show or anything else designed for the near dead or housebound.


If you randomly surveyed twenty people on the street I would be shocked if more than 1 out of 20 would have any idea who Sherrod is.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #74
137. She was fired before Fox New aired a story
Drudge linked to Breitbart's story, Fox News online had one article, and that was about it from anyone of significance (which I don't use praisingly). She lost her job only a few hours later because the WH panicked believing this would become a big story and embarrass them and made her pull over to the side of the road and email her resignation on her blackberry.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #137
141. So basically it was the threat of public pressure
the WH didn't want to have to deal with the public pressure they were expecting to get, so they acted preemptively.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #141
150. Substitute "public" with "right wing noise machine pressure"
And you've got it.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #150
155. So you're suggesting that our President accepted the word of a group
known to distort facts or outright lie, without any investigation whatsoever. I feel worse about the situation now than I did before.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #155
158. I'd like to paint a better picture than that
But I refuse to accept this administration is in any way stupid.

Fox news is an unabashed RW propaganda organ. That tells me that the WH is afraid of RW propaganda, and will happily throw anyone under the bus in order to avoid criticism.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #158
161. I don't think they were stupid either
but does this sort of fear of RW criticism based on sketchy claims really paint a better picture?

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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #161
166. Not in my mind
And it's worse because it's the WH's fault, in the end.

We had a historic opportunity- the Republican party was on life support, completely irrelevant. The chance was there to put the final nail in their coffin...and instead, President Obama offered them a seat at the table.

Newly energized, empowered, and dangerous...the right is back.

BTW, that seat belonged to the left.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:36 AM
Response to Reply #74
140. No, it was not...
...there was no time for public pressure to develop. Rather, it was the fear of an imminent firestorm on FAUX via Beck et al.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:42 AM
Response to Reply #2
81. Uhh, knee-jerk public pressure caused this!
Those behind this, like in the NAACP, should be ashamed. This was a high-tech lynching based on unverified facts from a non-credible source.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #81
110. and the WH
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #81
138. The NAACP condemned her after she was forced to resign.
So they just piled on after the WH made it's move. Despite the fact they had the full tape since the speech was at their event.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:57 AM
Response to Original message
3. I've been waiting for this, but thought maybe it had gotten too late for a statement
tonight. Thanks!

I hope they do more than 'reconsider' and bring the hammer down -- publicly -- on Fox and Breitbart.
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. For what?
They could have reviewed the video, spoken with Sherrod and made an informed decision. Instead, they jumped the gun and leveled accusations of racism, blowing this up a hell of a lot more than it ever deserved. They could have made Breitbart look like an ass for showing an incomplete video but they chose to take the low road and run for cover.

Instead of playing the blame game for their own mistakes, they need to own up to their stupidity.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:09 AM
Response to Reply #6
9. I don't get your point - don't understand why you're addressing this to me.
I've been waiting for some indication that they were taking action, or at least thinking about it. We haven't heard a word from them. The NAACP was on it immediately.

I'm aware they jumped the gun -- again -- and they need to do the right thing. So what are you hollering at me for?
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Abq_Sarah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #9
14. Oh crap,
A thousand apologies. I didn't mean to address it to you. :blush:
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:27 AM
Response to Reply #14
16. No problem -- I just didn't understand why you apparently thought I disagreed
with you. :hi:
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #6
26. I have to say it.
It only blew out of proportion because she is black. She could have looked at a white person funny, and they would accuse her of racism. How fucking ironic.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #6
64. They should issue a statement saying "We're stupid"
You're right.

...
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #6
143. But even then
Breitbart was just going to fall back on the original argument he made when he posted the video... that his point was some of the people in the crowd reacting in approval of her initial response to the white farmer. This was posted because of the NAACP's condemnation of the tea party as racist. An incomplete video argument wasn't really going to be effective.
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. Yes, they have to say it was a fraud perpetrated by
Fox and Breitbart. An easily proven fraud, at that. Rub their noses in their crap.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:57 AM
Response to Reply #8
41. Rub their noses in it!
Nominate Rachel Maddow for an award for she expose she did last night!
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:50 AM
Response to Reply #3
30. What about Vilsack?
And those who forced her resignation prematurely without even bothering to conduct a fair investigation. I tend to think a white person would have at least been granted that. P.S. For what it's worth, I am white and happen to have seen this bullshit happen too many times in business.
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joe black Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:54 AM
Response to Reply #30
109. Yep.
Even in jobs that small people like me have had internal investigations always occurred before action was taken.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #30
113. and the WH . . . . apparently
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:39 AM
Response to Reply #30
144. Totally agree...
...had she been white, she would have been afforded some opportunity to present her side of the story before being summarily fired.

And yes I am white too.
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:20 PM
Response to Reply #30
182. He should resign, just because of stupidity. AND, I am not being facetious.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:59 AM
Response to Original message
5. Maybe the USDA should stop taking right-wing sources as gospel
In fact, assuming everything they say is a lie until independently confirmed by multiple sources seems to be a safe route to take.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:02 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. Why keep the "D" in there? Maybe the USA should!
;-)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:10 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. Excellent! nt
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #7
11. Because the USA should deport all right-wingers to Colombia
They like militant right-wing governments? Well, there you go, guys. And hey! Cocaine is only about two bucks a gram down there, and there are no shortage of child prostitutes; right-wing heaven, no doubt.

The USDA doesn't have that kind of power though, so their options are limited.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:51 AM
Response to Reply #11
39. Plus fucking one!
These people are downright horrible. Imagine the worst you can and they will exceed it.
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:34 AM
Response to Reply #39
57. I dislike conservatives more and more with each passing day.
This is just one more maddening example of the low-road cheating and lying that is standard operating procedure for today's bottom-feeding conservatives. I am so ashamed that these people are (or call themselves) Americans.

What has happened to us? Why are we allowing the very worst America has to offer to dominate our politics? WHAT IS WRONG WITH US?

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LargeGreenSpider Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #11
67. Bravo!
Send them to Somalia, too. Just get these destructive, treasonous robots out of here.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #67
120. Why send them to Colombia and Somalia?
Haven't the people in Colombia and Somalia suffered enough?
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:36 AM
Response to Reply #7
58. Very good point! Agree!
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #5
91. Right-on, the hell with Breitbart and Beck and Fox News, they have
their agenda and nothing is going to change that so I wish they had listened to her first and then go after Breitbart for what he did.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:32 AM
Response to Reply #5
98. Maybe the administration should take the same advice, not just the USDA /nt
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #5
114. and the WH as well
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #5
188. Maybe the Obama Admin
should tell faux-noise to STFU...

And bar them from the White House...

But, that would take a spine... Most Democrats appear to be invertebrates...
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #188
192. Yes, yes they do
Including the voting side of the situation.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:24 AM
Response to Original message
13. Don't know who I'm more angry at



Fox/Breitbart or the Obama administration for falling for their bull crap again..............AGAIN
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:33 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. IF the administration doesn't take this opportunity to make it right to Sherrod,
rip Fox/Breitbart and their smarmy stunt to shreds, and issue an order that from now on no more action will be taken without knowing all the facts, then I'll be more pissed at the administration.

We KNOW what Fox and Breitbart are, why would we expect anything else? Especially since it seems to work so well and we fall for it every time.

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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:40 AM
Response to Reply #17
21. Exactly
They need to make it 100% right with her and, this is a golden opportunity to stick it to Fox Noise. They are standing there with their pants around their ankles on this one, time to close in for the kill.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #13
92. Same here but I still think thee should be some consequences for Breitbart, eom.
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #92
122. Ms. Sherrod should sue him for defamation.
Make the amount something that would force Mr. Breitbart to learn what it means to live in a car.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:25 AM
Response to Original message
15. Edited, full story at link now
I hope this is the end of Dullfart, I've had quite enough of him. I would say I hope this severely damages Faux Nooz credibility, but that would presume they had any credibility to begin with.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:35 AM
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18. Vilsack needs to whip himself in a public square.
Not feeling the love.
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:40 AM
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20. I heard about this story this morning
On MSNBC. Complete with the out-of-context video snippet. A lot of people need to eat some crow on this one.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:59 AM
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43. 'Need' being the operative word.
This just illustrates how fucking awful they are.
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:39 AM
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19. Even for a ginned up Faux News "scandal"
This one had a short but explosive half-life. Either the right-wing propaganda machine is slipping, or we are getting better at debunking their lies.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:45 AM
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23. This one debunked itself
When the whole story came out it was right there in broad daylight where even the thick headed can see and understand what happened.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:11 AM
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46. The supposed victim (ie the white farmer's wife) advocating for Sherrod helped, too
She talked to the emdia VERY quickly yesterday, saying Sherrod had been for friend for almost 25 years.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:48 AM
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103. I hope she can sue Breitbart
I don't know if his actions meet the standard of libel but I would love to see that smarmy little POS sued until he's homeless and knocked off the public stage for good :grr:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:11 AM
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116. It counts as slander/libel in my book
this is the kind of stunt that would get one expelled from journalism school...

oh, right, those people (faux & friends)aren't journalists.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:43 AM
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22. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
Now when will Congress repeal the Defund ACORN Act following the multiple governmental reviews (on both state and fed level) exonerating ACORN of any criminal activity? Washington needs to stand up and refuse to be bullied by the smear machine.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:10 AM
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24. Everytime the right wing says "jump" the administration says "how high"?
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 02:12 AM by McCamy Taylor
Why can't they listen to the concerns of average working class Americans the way they listen to a few idiots on the right? Are they so scared of bad press that they will throw anyone under the bus?


Just wait. Before 2012, they will throw the NAACP under the bus. Claim they are "too contraversial".
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:27 AM
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25. All great questions
for which the Obama administration apparently has no answers.

Whatever happened to "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me"?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:23 AM
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75. That's what I was thinking - after the Acorn tape was shown to be a lie
why did they jump immediately when the same source had a tape of Shirley Sherrod?

As George Bush said, "Food me once, shame on you, fool me twice... won't get fooled again"
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:12 AM
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47. I have gotten beyond of sick of it
And, that's all I'll say about that.
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:42 AM
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48. Err... the NAACP said "jump" at first...
They called USDA and denounced her remarks based on the edited version of the speech.
USDA did not act in a vacuum.

Once the NAACP backed off and the full version of the speech was released, USDA did the right thing.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:48 AM
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104. It's great that the NAACP quickly apologized, but who there didn't do the initial research?
It was a speech to them, they had to have the video or transcripts. 15 minutes of research could have smacked this shit down. Likewise the USDA and anyone else kneejerking to Breitbart.
There should be reprimands and demotions, at the very least TRAINING resulting from this mess.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:03 AM
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51. they are so afraid of what stupid will say in her next media whoring
and that is the reason why they didn't snatch a knot in Vilsack's ass for this.

I'm sick of the Dems allowing the right wing lunatic, racist fringe to define their game plan. They need to do a better job of following Alan Grayson's tack with the rwingnuts rather than this limp dick, doughy-bodied response thing they've got going on right now.
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:48 AM
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28. A rare admission of error by the government. very stand-up. i'm psyched. nt.
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:50 AM
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29. YaY!
(But I still won't hold my breath for justice to be served)
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:52 AM
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31. A question about Breitbart.
By now you would think that he would know that whatever video clips he publishes, eventually the context will come in.

I presume his website is profitable. So,

1. Is he just f'ing nuts?
2. Does he think the short term hits to the website will pay for the long term reputational damage
3. Are the freepers so stupid that there is no reputational damage to his base because his base will believe anything.

I'll tell you I believed this one when it first came out because I assumed he wouldn't be that stupid to take something so wildly out of context again. I was wrong and I was a dumbass.
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:17 AM
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33. Fire Vilsack
Put Sherrod in his place!

Can't we prosecute anyone for these lies?
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:04 AM
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44. It appears to me
that Sherrod deserves Vilsack's position and he needs to be fired.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:36 AM
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65. Dumb
You don't disrupt the operations of a whole department for something like this.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:50 AM
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106. Dumber
A. he's doing a lousy job anyway and B. the operations have already been disrupted.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:24 AM
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121. Um
A. That's neither clear nor relevant; if you want him fired for some other reason, make that case. Don't piggyback.
B. No, the operations of the USDA have not been disrupted, or at least not anywhere close to the disruption of a fired cabinet officer.

Cable news isn't the only thing in the world, you know. There is a government and agencies that actually do policy implementation and stuff like that that doesn't get on "Hardball."

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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:31 AM
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124. In my experience, it's the grunts who do the work.
Executives can be replaced all the time, or their positions left vacant. It's the nurses who make hospitals "go," not the guys in the penthouse.
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Blacksheep214 Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:55 AM
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111. It's a big department
Doesn't character assassination mean anything these days?

Truth is optional in right wing world.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:53 AM
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34. They need to stop letting themselves be punked by right-wing assholes.
WTF is going on in this country?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:32 AM
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35. K&R
How many times must Faux Snooze be discredited before the rest of the lunatic fringe-owned M$M and other organizations finally get it? They are not a news organization. Appears Vilsack forgot what Gibbs said about them not so long ago.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:45 AM
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37. I watched Rachel's piece on Shirley Sherrod.
What Fox News did to Shirley Sherrod was the most blatant act of racism I have seen by a TV news organization in many many years. They should do more than apologize. They should be called out by the entire rest of the media until they hang their heads in shame. Just my take. Fox News is as filthy as one can possibly imagine.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:34 AM
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99. They won't be, the media are are in this game together /nt
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:46 AM
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38. K&R
I hope no one has unrecommended this thread. There would be no excuse.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:55 AM
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40. Vilsack, your job is to now
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 05:05 AM by Enthusiast
rip Fox News a new asshole.

Say it! Say this: "This is a blatant act of racism by Fox News." Say it you fuck! Say it! They edited the tape to perpetrate a lie to discredit her. Call them out! They only did it BECAUSE SHE IS BLACK.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:43 AM
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146. Brietbart did it.
Although he claims that clip was all he had at the time. Fox didn't air the video until after she had resigned. Direct your hate on this one at him. But continue hating Fox for other reasons :)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:57 AM
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42. Good the mention of "Glenn Beck" should have raised flags
THIS is the lowest of the Obama administration.. Glenn Beck? Really? Someone takes Glenn Beck seriously?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:37 AM
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142. Didn't Beck lead the charge to "stop" Van Jones?
And, he was one of the primary Anti-ACORN persons.

So, it seems Glenn Beck has more of a voice in the White House than people wanting universal healthcare.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 04:02 PM
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179. YES! n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:06 AM
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45. A "a thorough review and consider additional facts" should have been done FIRST
By the USDA, the NAACP, an dthe MSM.

Disgraceful.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:37 AM
Original message
Correct
It should have been. It wasn't. This is the next best thing.

Together with a review of process for things like this.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:39 AM
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80. Exactly. n/t
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:48 AM
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49. Shirley is a wonderful lady
She tells her story about her parents and how her father was killed right before her brother which her father wanted so much was born.

You can see it in it's entirety here:
http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/video_sherrod/

She overcame her feelings of how her family was treated during the height of racial discrimination. What Fox and Brietbart have done to her is reprehensible. They should be openly castigated.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 05:53 AM
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50. They better take her back!
I hope she sues every right winger and the "liberal" media for this lie!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:07 AM
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52. Better do more than reconsider.
This whole thing just looks dumb, vilsack.
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Blandocyte Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:16 AM
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53. Well, yeah!
Rachel had great commentary on the situation last night. Apparenlty some TeaKlan-minded jerk found some footage of her from what, 1986? Back before she was working for the fed gov't. They edited the tape by cutting the intro to the story off, as well as the ending. Sherrod had actually told a story of how she learned to be more tolerant and less racist through her interaction with the farmer. But the WH apparently didn't look into the situation and just flinched.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:50 AM
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87. The footage was from this year, not 1986
She was telling a story about something that happened 24 years ago (presumably in 1986) but the footage was from earlier this year.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:19 AM
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55. This is fromt page stuff on ABC and CBS, too
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:32 AM
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56. If NilSack..
... has a sack he will admit he was wrong and give her job back.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:42 AM
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59. This whole Sherrod incident once agains prooves just how racist the Teaballers are
:grr:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 06:59 AM
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60. The way this was handled by the USDA is absolutely shameful.
My god, if dumbass Glen Beck can see that then you are definitely on the wrong side of the issue. I feel so sorry for this sweet lady. :(
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:12 AM
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61. She said on "Today" that she's not sure she wants her job back.
I really can't blame her.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:10 AM
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132. I don't blame her either
If Ballsack was that quick to throw her under the bus without finding out what actually happened, I don't think I'd want to work for the SOB either
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:19 AM
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:30 AM
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63. I wonder which civil rights leaders were snookered
Are these the same ACORN video people?
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:46 AM
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147. I want to know which person..
Who didn't check their tape of the full speech first. That person needs to be fired.
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:37 AM
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66. Sin in haste, repent at leisure?
It's a weird time to be following this old maxim.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:48 AM
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68. This would go up less than an hour after I went to bed last night!
I didn't want to until there was some definite word that either Vilsak or Obama was reconsidering. Well, it's a huge relief!

:headbang:
rocktivity
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:51 AM
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88. I had gone to bed too
It woke me up, I get breaking news alerts from MSNBC on my iPhone, so when it dinged and woke me up I rushed here to post it. :hi:
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:53 AM
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69. FOX orchestrated a "high tech lynching"!
And should be ashamed, if shame is even possible at FOX?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:34 AM
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78. No, shame is not possible there
They could have a series of mass murders done by people shouting out to Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck (along with all the books and everything) and it would not matter to them.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:48 AM
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148. Maybe i missed something..
How was Fox News involved in this. From what I've read they didn't air the video until after she resigned. It seems the WH kneejerked to Breitbart and Drudge's link to Breitbart on the fear of the story blowing up.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:17 PM
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154. Yes, you did....
"Maybe i missed something..."
Yes, you did.

Fox News reached an erroneous conclusion, and broadcast that conclusion to its viewer's without appropriate verification or fact-checking.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:04 PM
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177. What erroneous conclusion did they broadcast?
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:54 AM
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70. I hope they can use this as a "teachable moment".
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:55 AM
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71. Methinks the firing emanated
with Rahm. Republicans stamp their feet and DLC tough guy Rahm does their bidding.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:00 AM
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72. K&R
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:00 AM
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73. This is good news
Stupidity can be reversed.
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:32 AM
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76. The USDA should be ashamed of itself
They should have investigated the charges before taking action.

Now they look like fools for falling for Breitbart's charges.

This isn't the first time this administration has taken the bait -- e.g. ACORN and Van Jones.

Why are they so afraid of Fox News and the right-wing smear artists?

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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:33 AM
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77. Sue Fox News and biggovernment.com to the ground. n/t
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:38 AM
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79. How benevolent of them to reconsider.
:puke: Would *you* want go go back to work for them after they threw you aside for political reasons?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:45 AM
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82. K and R for the teabaggers and freepers to see
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:47 AM
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83. Mighty sweet of them
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 08:48 AM by DirkGently
Unbelievable. It wasn't enough to go along with Breitbart's hitjob on ACORN? Now he does it again, and no one can be bothered to even investigate the tape produced by a known liar?

Hilariously, Glenn Beck is now claiming to have "uncovered" this shocking job of "railroading" by the administration, although he clearly did not get his information by watching O'Reilly and the other inflatable talking head fruitbats on Fox, which must be laughing its collective socks off at getting the administration to bite on a racist lie, then stumbling around trying to figure out what to do to fix it.

Unbelievable.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:49 AM
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Thank goodness! n/t
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:49 AM
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84. Breitbart
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 08:50 AM by 90-percent
This guy was the benefactor and mentor for the James O'Keefe and Sarah Giles video smear of ACORN. The Main Stream Media and the Administration must be smart enough to never again get snookered by what this man puts out there!

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....won't get fooled again.

Rachel's coverage of this Tuesday night was Pulitzer Prize winning..... and I will ask what she asked:

WHO'S NEXT?

-90% Jimmy

PS - I sure wish this Administration paid attention to Progressives as closely as they pay attention to Fox Noise

PPS - Has Fox offered any updates or corrections about how false they were with their ACORN coverage? Considering ACORN was legally absolved of any wrong doing what so ever? Are they covering Juan Carlos Vera's lawsuit against O'Keefe and Giles in Cali? http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joe_conason/2010/07/14/acorn
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dadzilla Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:50 AM
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86. The fish rots from the head

Perhaps it's time to consider asking Vilsack to tether his resignation...
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:54 AM
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89. reconsider yourself, Vilsack---you should be fired if anyone should
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 09:04 AM by wordpix
rush to judgment---did not even ask to see ALL of the video... did not call Ms. Sherrod in to hear her side of the story---taking Faux News' "reporting" on Sherrod's 20 yr. old story as truth---no due diligence...does not say much for Dept. of Ag Sec. Vilsack...:puke:
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Borchkins Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:02 AM
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93. Shirley is a wonderful woman.
I knew Shirley 14 years ago when I worked at the Federation of Southern Cooperatives/Land Assistance Fund in Alabama. She was a wonderful, warm, kind woman--to everyone. This is amazingly unfair and I'm pissed that Obama, et al, could be fooled again by Fox and Breitbart.

B
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Kber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:06 AM
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95. The REAL Reason the Right Wing went after her...
from a related article in CSM:

"It's about the poor," Sherrod said, just over 20 minutes into the speech. "It made me see it really was about those who have, versus those who don't ... black, white or Hispanic.

"It made me realize that I needed to work to help poor people ... those who don't have access the way others have."

She said the incident helped her get beyond issues of race.

"And I went on to work with many more white farmers," she said. "The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it's about the people who have and the people who don't."

http://www.ajc.com/news/usda-reconsiders-firing-of-574027.html

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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:11 AM
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96. Amazing how many libs & Dems believe right-wing media
Be it the gun culture believing the NRA crap, people posting links to Fox "News", anti-immigrant lies... The brainwashing is very thorough.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:37 AM
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101. That includes the administration. It is no surprise that the administration seems to compromise to
the conservatives so readily. They did it with HCR and financial reform

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:55 AM
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112. If by libs & Dems you mean DLC, agreed. Liberals have been onto their shtick for decades. nt
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 09:55 AM by glitch
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:54 AM
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127. I agree and it adds to their credibility. Heck, no one takes Limbaugh and Beck etc. more
seriously than most of the DU crowd who fawn over them all day in GD.

Brietbart was only ever taken seriously after the Dems started freaking out about him. Before that he was just another "news site" that had headlines and forwarded you on to other news sites like Drudge does.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:20 AM
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97. This is all part of the "reverse racism" meme of the GOP
(and the Tea Partyers).

Shame on Vilsack and the USDA for falling for it! They certainly deserve to be thoroughly castigated.



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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:37 AM
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100. I've been calling for this since I became aware of this story
(not as if that matters.)

Still, it's encouraging to see that sanity and decency can prevail. Please do the right thing, Mr. President, and make Vilsack publicly apologize and reinstate Shirley Sherrod.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:48 AM
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105. This really puts the spinmeisters at FNC on the spot.

How do they explain her re-hiring? How do they explain the change of mind without informing their audience that the original story was faked? What happens if they ask Vilsack on air, and he simply replies, "we learned that *you* lied in the conclusion to your story."

The firing worked out great for Sherrod. Instead of spending the news cycle fighting the spin, she is now universally recognized as an innocent victim. And the Rightists must now defend themselves.


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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:02 AM
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115. just saw a MSNBC interview with Breitbart. His spin was incomprehensible but one thing he said
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:25 AM by wordpix
sheds light: he said it's too bad the rush to judgment hurt Ms. Sherrod, b/c the real culprit is the NAACP. :puke: :crazy: :puke:

:crazy:

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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:50 AM
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149. Yeah I saw that
He was going on and on and on about how supposedly his point was the NAACP audience reacting with approval to her initial response to the white farmer and not discussing Sherrod being unfairly fired.
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:19 PM
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190. yeah, they're all CYA
Breitbert blames NAACP for his shorting the tape to make it look like a racist scenario? Now it's all the NAACP's fault. And Faux, from Hannity to Beck had the incident as a main talking point; now that the full film is exposed, again, it's someone else's fault--the administrations fault. Well, since they're supposed to be some type of journalists, they could have investigated the full tape. I blame them all, however, after watching the Rachel show tonight, I agree with her. We got a meme going here by the repugs, it's the "scary black people" meme. See, those repugs don't need no black people, as long as they can make enough white people afraid--afraid enough to vote for the over the edge crazies. Faux is the mouthpiece, in my opinion; they have little to no creditability.

I also, will never forget what they did to Acorn. They have destroyed an organization that helped the poor to vote, and what the government did, and what faux did is incomprehensible.
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 09:51 AM
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107. just so disappointing that they would believe these neocon cretins over her
Perhaps the charge of racism is better leveled at her supervisors/WH.
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:13 AM
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117. This is an EMBARRASSMENT to the Obama Administration
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:18 AM by DimplesinMI
They could have done what CNN did, easily. Just examine the facts of the incident with an investigation BEFORE firing her. She should sue for the treatment of her by this administration and the USDA Under-Secretary; that harassed this 60 year old women on the road, driving to an assignment, demanding her to resign.

At this point, I am seriously having great issues with the Obama Administration, as an African-American. Bill Clinton (who I consider my favorite President) would have stood up against this charge or at least had his staff investigate the situation, BEFORE taking action.

Hopefully, someone in the Democratic party will have to courage to primary challenge President Obama in 2012. Otherwise, after this incident, many African-Americans just might stay home, than give another vote this this individual.

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jah the baptist Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:23 AM
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119. maybe you could run against him
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 10:26 AM by jah the baptist
you would have as good a chance of beating him as anyone else.

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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:30 AM
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123. Sherrod should be offered a promotion.
Reconsidering? They knee jerk her into resigning over false allegations w/o listening to her side, or investigating for themselves and now they are reconsidering. How big of them.

Offer her the job back with a fat raise and a promotion. This is a no-brainer. Apologize to Sherrod for listening to a known liar (Breitbart) and the right wing noise machine (Fox). Promise the American people you will never make this stupid mistake again. Acorn and Sherrod should be enough proof that getting the story wrong is Breitbart's specialty.
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waronbanks Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:32 AM
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125. And with this latest disgusting knee jerk reaction
by this inept and compromised administration they have officially fallen to loathe status.

How pathetic. They couldnt get her to resign fast enough. Sickening. Contributing to the racial tensions Fox is trying to create...playing right along and whippin up the race thing.

Just more shameful actions by an administration that clearly, was in no way ready to govern a nation in terrible need of leadership. Beer summits to this...good god.
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:38 AM
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126. So agree and..............
Very well said, by the way!
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donquijoterocket Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:58 AM
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128. reinstatement
A diary over at Kos recommends that if Shirley Sherrod is indeed offered reinstatement the administration should fly her to Washington ad perform the reinstatement in as public a manner as possible emphasizing the fact that Ms.Sherrod did in the end provide valuable assistance to the farm family in question as attested to by the farmer and his wife.I find this a most worthwhile idea.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:59 AM
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129. Good. She should NOT have been fired/forced to resign.
Sound-byte versus reality. I was taken in too at first.

PB
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:03 AM
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130. I hope she tells them to "take this job and shove it"!
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catbyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:08 AM
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131. My 8-word e-mail to the White House:
Stop being Charlie Brown to the Right's Lucy.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:23 AM
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135. good one!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:16 AM
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133. I'm glad they act fast to take care of problems, they just acted too fast in this case.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:21 AM
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134. If I was Shirley I'd have the lawyers lined up and ready to go.
Her character was run through the mud by the right and they need to pay. And the administration isn't much better for not bothering to investigate before acting.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 11:40 AM
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145. What do the dirty outcomes of Election Night 2000, ACORN and Shirley Sherrod have in common?



...and its single-minded army of corporate, warmongering, racist right wing bigots whose daily existence is to manufacture lies to steal elections, defile the truth and destroy the reputations of the innocent.



Election night 2000
Jeb Bush cousin John Ellis and FOX


ACORN
Breitbart and FOX


Media Matters: Full video vindicates Sherrod, destroys Breitbart's accusations of racism
Breitbart and FOX




Any questions?


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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:04 PM
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151. KnR...n/t
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:07 PM
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152. OK ... on the count of three ... let's everyone in the universe stop listening to Fox News.
1 ... 2 ... 3! Done!
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:11 PM
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153. Get your BUTT in gear White House! Contact WH here....
Good GAWD White House! Get your ass in gear!!

Get Sherrod rehired…Publicly apologize…Fire Vilsack and that Cook woman…And then GO AFTER FakeNews and that freak Breitbart!

Every SECOND that they wait to rehire Sherrod is going to be used against them. Sheesh...get moving!

CONTACT the WHITE HOUSE here and tell them to rehire her:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contac
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 12:57 PM
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162. wrote my brief statement including
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 12:57 PM by wordpix
"don't trust Fox "News." " It's not a news org, it's a RW GOP Corpos lying mouthpiece.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:17 PM
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164. Haven't we all learned by now? Don't ever, EVER, trust FOX News...!!! 9nt0
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:26 PM
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165. Let the FCC know how you feel about Faux
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:08 PM
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172. rec and thanks for the link
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MikeNY Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:39 PM
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167. Maybe I'm from another planet
Hey, I don't know about you all, but maybe I'm from another planet, because I watched the whole video on the NAACP website, and I still concluded her remarks are racist.

She still concedes that she didn't help the farmer as best she could because he was better served by "his kind"
CNN brings the poor 90-sum-year-old farmer on TV, who can barely form a coherent sentence, and he defends her.
She claims the White House demanded she resign and then recants her story.
She goes through a whole story of how she went to great lengths to help this farmer, even though its clear she said at the NAACP meeting she didn't use her "full power" to help him (BECAUSE HE WAS WHITE)

People saying her resignation should be reversed clearly aren't following the news because she says she is glad she retired.

And it seems like this became a story about Shirley Sherrod instead of the NAACP applauding derogatory comments towards white people, which shouldn't be surprising, since no group, person, or government entity is perfect, irregardless of its affiliation.

The real story here is about how the NAACP tried to cover its ass by condemning this person without even watching the full tape, and then recanting when the MSM does a 180 and claims the woman isn't racist and that its a giant conservative conspiracy. However, even after I watched this video in full, I still came to the determination that her comments were deplorable. They would be acceptable if she wasn't in a public position, but she was.

Instead of being pawns in the race game that the government and media love to play on unsuspecting people, perhaps we should be open minded that anyone and everyone is capable of racist comments, and that people entrusted by the public to say and do what is appropriate should have some moral and ethical responsibility to do just that? I guess I'm being too idealist in my assertions.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:52 PM
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168. You are correct
If a white person had said that, the would be no reconsideration. That person would be fired and correctly so.
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:00 PM
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171. you, my dear, need to go watch the video again
also. There was absolutely no basis for firing Shirley Sherrod except for kneejerk fear of perception
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:57 PM
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170. you need to go watch the speech again
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 02:07 PM by handmade34
even someone from another planet could see that Shirley Sherrod's speech was about her life and events that transformed her belief system... a very powerful speech and told by a woman we should be proud to have serve in the position she was in
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MikeNY Donating Member (242 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:22 PM
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174. Yes, watching the video again
Like Strom Thurmond or Robert Byrd, she is a reformed racist who realized that "his kind" wouldn't take care of him and that she needed to spring into action, because of "his kind"!
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handmade34 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:41 PM
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176. I suspect you have no point of reference
or are unable to empathize... I don't believe you are "hearing" what she is saying
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:25 PM
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185. this might help...
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:56 PM
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187. You are crazily messing up history. What you are saying means that anyone who years ago did
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 07:56 PM by peacetalksforall
something that they regretted, but put it to right, should be locked into the initial mistake and should not even bother making ir right because they are forever wrong in your eyes? Have you no understanding or awareness OF HISTORICAL CONTEXT AND TIMING? Please, if you don't understand history and awareness and righting wrongs, you are not going to understand the clock.

If a soldier took pleasure in killing a Vietnamese or an Iraqi while he killed them and later regrets it and makes it right, do you only remember the part about the pleasure he took.

Humanity and the clock. Consider it.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 01:53 PM
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169. I was hoping they would reconsider this.
Faux News had a lot of nerve saying she was railroaded.
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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 02:14 PM
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173. Ever Hear About Checking Your Source?
This should never have happened.
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RavensChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 03:47 PM
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178. They'll "reconsider" all right...
by dragging this poor woman through the mud and use every ounce of red tape they can! Vilsack? He's more Vilsuck to me!!!

Enthusiast, you're so on the money I'm up here screaming in total agreement with you!!!! If you're ever in DC, I'll buy you a beer :-)

If USDA thinks they can bring her back and say to her, "our bad, we made such a terrible mistake", they better think again because she's probably getting her dream team of lawyers lined up!!!

Please say a prayer for Sherrod and for me because I'm getting the hell out of there before there's another dust up!!! Thanks.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:01 PM
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183. This is the only way to show decency. This is only way to expose the LI Party - Lying Indency Party
This country is going crazy and if our Executive and Government Departments allow the LI Party to rule them it is all downhill from here.

I would like to know what Rahm Emanuel's advice was on this.

The DLC is a Republican enabler and it would be a good idea to know what the DLC is saying.

If you can't stand up for your own, what hope do we have.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:21 PM
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184. What is insufferable and unforgivng of the White House and USDA is that in the last week
Edited on Wed Jul-21-10 07:24 PM by peacetalksforall
there have been news and blogs about three lawsuite against Breitbart, O'Keefe, and Giles. It's in their face about how they brought down Acorn and they allowed this crap to rule their decisions - even demanding, DEMANDING, that Sherrod pull over and message a resignation on a blackberry. Incredible and UNFORGIVING. Who looks the worst here? I feel the same about those in charge at the NAACP who did this.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 07:26 PM
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186. You know what this says? It says that the WH, USDA, NAACP believe that FOX is credible.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 08:24 PM
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189. Exactly...
and when are they going to "get it"?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-21-10 10:54 PM
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191. translation
they're getting their asses handed to them for making hideously bad decisions
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