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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:12 PM
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Some manufacturing heads back to USA
Source: USA Today

Faced with rising costs, General Electric is moving production of its new energy-efficient water heater halfway around the world. The country it's leaving? China. The one it's bringing 400 jobs and a newly renovated factory? The United States.

A small but growing band of U.S. manufacturers — including giants such as General Electric (GE), NCR (NCR) and Caterpillar (CAT)— are turning the seemingly inexorable offshoring movement on its head, bringing some production to the U.S. from far-flung locations such as China. Others that were buying components overseas are switching to U.S. suppliers.

Ford Motor said Wednesday that it's bringing nearly 2,000 jobs to its U.S. plants by 2012 from suppliers, including those in Japan, Mexico and India.

Experts say the initiatives could moderate job losses that have dramatically shrunk the U.S. manufacturing industry. "I think we're going to start to see a slowing of lost jobs, and we'll see some jobs coming back," says Simon Ellis, an analyst for IDC Manufacturing Insights. "At some point, it will balance out, and we'll reach an equilibrium."

There are myriad reasons for the shifts, often called "onshoring" or "reshoring." Chinese wages and shipping costs have risen sharply in the past few years while U.S. salaries have stayed flat, or in some cases, fallen in the recession. Meanwhile, U.S. manufacturers have been frustrated by the sometimes poor quality of goods made by foreign contractors, theft of their intellectual property and long product-delivery cycles that make them less responsive to customer demand.


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2010-08-06-manufacturing04_CV_N.htm
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:20 PM
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1. I've noticed re clothing that there is somewhat less from China ...
and moving back to the more familiar areas -- but still not Made in USA --

And, let's hope that Obama administration is also encouraging this --

but we should also OVERTURN THE TRADE AGREEMENTS!

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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:35 AM
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22. must mean our labor cost have been getting cheaper
or about to become a bargain respectively to other countries...
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 10:11 AM
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25. And/or "Chinese wages ... have risen sharply in the past few years".
Their wages don't have to be equal to ours for it to be economically sensible to bring production back to the US. A sharp rise in Chinese wages is a good thing. Now the advantages of lower transportation costs and a more dependable legal and regulatory framework here will work to our benefit.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 01:08 PM
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26. Talbot's stuff from Nicaragua .... other stuff I've noted from Philippines ..
Edited on Fri Aug-06-10 01:11 PM by defendandprotect
Indonesia -- some from Vietnam --

Czeckoslovakia was a fairly big player a while back -- that seems to

have disappeared?

Maybe fall will bring more stuff from China --

btw, don't mean to say NONE of it around --

EILEEN FISHER -- WOMEN'S CLOTHING -- big user of Chinese labor!!

And her stuff is hugely expensive --

Looks like that outfit may be bringing in fabrics to be made there???

Not sure? They use interesting linens -- maybe rayon?


I'd like to see us slam the doors on these companies that now want to come

back after destroying our manufacturing base -- economy -- etal --





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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 07:55 AM
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23. Moved to sweat shops
staffed by children in Honduras etc not helped by people like her supporting coups in places like Honduras
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:21 PM
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2. Interesting I hope we see more of this
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:28 PM
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3. Good to hear, but I have to ask...
Edited on Thu Aug-05-10 11:29 PM by napi21
What kind of stupid morons are running these companies? Theft of intelectual property & long lead times is something they all should have KNOWN before they ever offshored the jobs in the first place!

I've also heard complaints of poor quality goods has been a problem for YEARS! I heard that from several of the appliance mfgs who moved their opperation to Mexico. I'm positive that lack of QC when your own people are not on site.

I'm almost automatically resorting to "Malloy speak" these days. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:06 AM
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17. Racing pioneer "Smokey" Yunick
Called American management "The All-American drinking team!" They all had to learn FOR THEMSELVES about getting backdoored, copied, tooling stolen, "Chinese industry standard", lousy materials, and all the rest.
American management is often very fragmented - QC and engineering struggle mightily to explan issues like this to management comprised of MBA;s whose allegiance to short-term profit distorts their view of the whole business.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:19 AM
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19. They are greedy republicans?
They have no contact with reality--just juggle paper. They buy into fads. they think they are smarter than they are. They truly believe greed is good.

It's a mindset.
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SocialistLez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:31 PM
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4. YES YES YES!!
I hope we see a hell of a lot more jobs come back!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:36 PM
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5. Best news I've heard in over a decade. n/t
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:43 PM
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6. I smell a bumper sticker:
We make it better here.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 11:46 PM
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7. I like this news story. Thanks RamboLiberal for posting it. K&R.
:)
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:30 AM
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8. they went too far
they ran manufacturing as financial instruments. The all important 30 day bottom line rules but that means minimal stock on hand and having to deal with product recalls among other problems. They succeeded in losing what brand loyalty they had and forced buyers to look elsewhere for products.

Loyalty and dependability are intangibles and not considered when operating a financial instrument. They should fall flat on their faces for screwing up like that.
They just now figured out "theft of intellectual property?" Everyone knew that the first things that was done in China was to copy plans and schematics - many years ago. Guess that was one of those intangibles too.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:32 AM
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9. Wow. I'm impressed. The idiots finally realized that if Americans
don't have jobs, Americans don't buy anything. Just brilliant, I tell ya.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 12:46 AM
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10. It's not that complicated.
I would think all those smart guys would've thought of that.
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AllTooEasy Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 02:09 AM
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11. Obama is fucking up again...

:sarcasm:

I can hear the left wing Obama haters now "Oh but wait, I still can't buy weed at WalMart and...and people still go to church and ...and SUVs are still on our roads and...and where's that White Man is the Devil executive order?"

:cry: :nopity:

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:01 AM
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13. wow...
that's some hate!

I took this as corporate america realizes Americans won't buy poorly made crap made from China so eagerly as they did 15, 10, even 5 years ago - not as "LEFT WING Obama haters are angry they can't get their WEED AT WAL-MART".

I like the pretty straw men you've assembled, but, look out, they burn easily!

:freak:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_o6UZEGy811M/SGEfrJFgN0I/AAAAAAAAAQA/yA2DsNQ62HU/s320/wizard+scarecrow+fire.JPG
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:20 AM
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20. WTF does this have to do with Obama?
You're really scraping for excuses to attack people who (gasp!) dare to think of Obama as anything less than perfect.

You're also dead wrong in thinking it's only left-wingers criticizing Obama. I'm a pro-gun-rights, meat-eating, pro-LEGAL-immigration moderate who simply expects him to quit kowtowing to Republicans. Quit trying to categorize people.

You're trying to credit Obama for something these corporations have simply figured out for themselves: Outsourcing isn't the jackpot they thought it would be.

Let's get these jobs back here, and then you'll have a real economic recovery.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 02:11 AM
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12. Just in time
for the biggest tax hike in history.

Don't these people listen to Rush Limbaugh?








:sarcasm:
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:04 AM
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14. This is why your wages had to be driven down, to compete with China
and elsewhere.

You will also be required to consume, not less (must keep the supply-side splurging), but lower quality.

And screw natural resources and the environment.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:07 AM
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15. Agreed
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DesertDiamond Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 03:18 AM
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16. That was precisely my first thought.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 09:00 AM
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24. Yes
you were the mugs who bought what was made there and probably also paid the same retail prices as would've been if US home produced.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:13 AM
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18. Is this the start of the end of off shoring?
I hope so
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 06:50 AM
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21. Not to mention the fact that their blue ribbon customers
weren't buying any more because they didn't have money or jobs due to outsourcing. Could the manufacturing community have "discovered" the basic fact that people without money can't buy anything?
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 05:06 PM
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27. Glad to see some companies wising up
about sending jobs overseas
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-06-10 05:27 PM
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28. Wonder if they foresee more security issues coming offshore.
There's no place like home, Toto. Welcome back to Kansas.
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