Supreme Court upholds 'birther' (Orly Taitz) sanction

[kpete]

Source: Associated Press

Supreme Court upholds 'birther' sanction

(AP) – 1 hour ago

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court has upheld a $20,000 fine against a leader of the movement challenging President Barack Obama's citizenship.

The high court on Monday refused to block a federal judge's October 2009 ruling that required California lawyer and dentist Orly Taitz to pay the $20,000 fine for filing a "frivolous" litigation. The judge said Taitz attempted to misuse the federal courts to push a political agenda.

Taitz sued in Georgia federal court on behalf of Army Capt. Connie Rhodes. Rhodes sought to avoid deployment to Iraq by claiming Obama wasn't born in the United States.

Justice Samuel Alito on Monday rejected Taitz's second request to block the sanctions. Justice Clarence Thomas had rejected the request earlier.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jTUheG7oliYrZ4SrxT_0UvQ8vEDQD9HKKL1O0

[SpiralHawk]

1. "The SupremeOs are obviously socialist co-conspirators." - Oily (R)

"Oh, the humanity. This is the most outrageous injustice ever perpetrated on the face of the planet. The Kenyan obviously forced them do this, at a crucial time in US history when we absolutely need more more more birf certificates, and more more more tax cuts for rich republicons, and more more more corporate control of the mass media and the Internets, and more more more Republicon obstructionism."

- Oily (R)

[savalez]

25. LOL! That's funny.

[POAS]

87. I want to see all

their birth certificates......long form.

[RKP5637]

2. Excellent!!! n/t

[hlthe2b]

3. Give her to the end of the day to write the check...

or initiate contempt of court charges... I can't wait to hear the insane Orly's response to this...:eyes:

[msanthrope]

57. The federal marshalls can, and should, collect the debt. n/t

[struggle4progress]

95. A legal document filed Monday in the $20,000 sanctions case against .. Taitz creates a lien on all

her real property ...
Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010
'Birther' attorney Taitz says she'll pay fine if appeal is denied
By Alan Riquelmy | The Columbus (Ga.) Ledger-Enquirer
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/08/11/98992/birther-attorney-taitz-says-shell.html#ixzz0wq6ZDAt9

[babylonsister]

4. That sure didn't take long! nt

[msanthrope]

58. Even the winger Supremes are sick of the crazy....n/t

[tabatha]

5. Excellent, miss oil tainted disaster

[elleng]

6. kpete, it is wrong to say Supremes 'upheld' when they refused to consider.

Let's not spread msm's incorrect use of words here, please' it really does give wrong impression about what actually occurred.

[hlthe2b]

8. You are right, of course... but I'm sort of enjoying

the effect on the Freeper crowd that will come from thinking the Supremes "upheld" purposely (rather than passively by refusing to consider). ;)

[NYMdaveNYI]

46. maybe they’re starting to think the Supreme Court is really a left-wing conspiracy |nt|

[WhoIsNumberNone]

71. Judging from the tone and intensity of the opposition to all of Obama's centrist nominees...

I'd say they already do. Just imagine the reaction if Obama actually nominated a liberal.

[Dappleganger]

21. IOW they dismissed her...

she doesn't even warrant a judicial sneeze.

[msanthrope]

59. A judicial fart, in this case....n/t

[COLGATE4]

24. No, he's right. By refusing to reconsider, they upheld the findings

of the lower court. His terminology is correct.

[seattleblue]

39. No you are wrong.

The court rejected a request to stay the order. That is not a comment on the findings.

[elleng]

52. Thanks, blue!

[msanthrope]

60. Exactly correct.

Wow, Seattle....hell just froze over.

[seattleblue]

65. I got my cold weather gear packed!

[msanthrope]

67. There's pork in the trees, too....n/t

[Hissyspit]

49. She.

[Hissyspit]

48. She posted the headline as per the LBN forum rules.

[elleng]

50. Sure. So we say, big, bold, upfront, with no hesitation, misleading stuff?

I'm not happy with this, tho I understand 'rules.'

[EFerrari]

85. kpete didn't write the title but used the given one per LBN rules. n/t

[struggle4progress]

94. ... Taitz sent an application for stay to Thomas on July 8. Thomas denied it a week later. Taitz

then refiled .. with Alito ... That request was referred .. to the entire nine-member court ...
Posted on Thursday, 08.12.10
Alito refers 'birther' attorney Taitz's request to Supreme Court
BY ALAN RIQUELMY
THE COLUMBUS (GA.) LEDGER-ENQUIRER
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/12/1773183/alito-refers-birther-attorney.html#ixzz0wq5cwiGr

So the Court as a whole was disinterested in further proceedings on this matter

[Blue Owl]

7. Twenty grand worth of dumbass

But $20,000 is such a small number, compared to the satisfaction of knowing you're right and millions if not billions of others are all wrong, so very wrong.

:eyes:

[struggle4progress]

96. ... Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela ...

Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela
Ryan J. Reilly | August 16, 2010, 12:47PM
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/supreme_court_tells_birther_queen_orly_taitz_to_pa.php?ref=mp

[onehandle]

9. As expected. They only care about corporate matters. nt

[Kweli4Real]

10. What are you talking about?

Are you suggesting the SCOTUS really should have heard this piece of crap, improperly filed argument?

[onehandle]

11. No. This 'case' does not benefit corporate policy or profits.

Therefore it is 'distracting' to their goal of corporate rule.

They brush things like this aside all of the time.

In this case, even if they were a non-partisan body, I would personally agree with this one decision.

[hlthe2b]

12. Anyone have a strong enough stomach to check our FR reactions?

Inquiring minds are curious...;)

[groundloop]

14. Not I (but would love to see some highlights posted here !!!)

You gotta' love this decision telling a dumba$$ "you're frivolous case is not worth our time".

[BumRushDaShow]

16. Nothing there yet...

It's like crickets. Not even a peep on their birther subforum! :rofl:

[Saphire]

35. here's a sample...they're still batshit crazy

To: zeebee
This is unchartered territory. No one knows what the outcome would be. The Constitution is not clear.

By my read Dick Cheney is now our President by law. The electoral college vote can’t be used as it is the fruit of fraud. George Dubya can not serve more than two terms. So it’s President-by-default Cheney.

[hlthe2b]

45. I'd like to think that is a plant just playing up the insanity...

but sadly, I doubt it. Good heavens...

[rasputin1952]

51. Holy Crap! Someone actually write that!

One has to twist, bend, fold, spindle and mutilate the Constitution to come up w/that insanity!

Good Lord, these idiots are well onto the road to insanity if they came up w/that...;eyes:

[Chan790]

83. Ha!

By that logic since it seems likely that Dick will be Dead by the end of the year that Pelosi will be President. They hate Nancy Pelosi only slightly less than Obama. They're really painting themselves into a corner here.

[msanthrope]

61. Look, the birther threads are high comedy...If one of going to read anything

on that site, that's what to read....

[LiberalArkie]

13. Damn liberal supreme court!!!!

[brooklynite]

15. How do we KNOW the SC rejected her motion?

Orly said she didn't trust Justice Thomas' signature on the first rejection. Can we have any more faith in "Scalia's" signature? And he has a "foreign" sounding name: has anyone seen his birth certificate?

[brooklynite]

27. UPDATE: The Court DIDN'T really reject her appeal!!!

So-called "Birther Queen" Orly Taitz hadn't yet heard about the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a $20,000 fine against her when TPMMuckraker reached her on Monday.

But Taitz told TPMMuckraker she is convinced that none of the members of the court read her request, and that clerks made the decision for the justices. She cited a passage from a book co-authored by Justice Antonin Scalia that she claimed said less than one percent of cases are not read by a judge.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/08/supreme_court_tells_birther_queen_orly_taitz_to_pa.php

If she keeps these arguments up, people are going to think she's nuts.....

[laughingliberal]

37. ROFL!!!

And she thinks the justices just haven't heard about their decision yet? Like shooting fish in a barrel.

:rofl:

[Sgent]

74. This is going to be funny

when SCOTUS hits her with another 10,000 fine for contempt for her comments. (as a member of the bar she is held to different standards).

[rocktivity]

47. LOL! Reminds me a the story of a white supremacist acting as his own attorney

He had the right to ask that the judge be removed from his case, and did so because the judge's named sounded kind of Jewish. The next judge's name sounded more Irish, so he was acceptable. But actually--wait for it!--it turned out that the judge was BLACK! What's that saying about having a fool for a client...

:rofl:
rocktivity

[SoapBox]

17. Yes! But...can she now appeal to all the other Crazies on the court?

Can she still go to Roberts or Scalia?

[hlthe2b]

18. I dare say she's already tried the craziest of the five.... n/t

[iamthebandfanman]

20. i dunno, roberts is pretty bat shit.

i was really suprised that on DU alito got a lot of resistence but people just kinda gave up when it came to roberts... even tho roberts is more conservative than alito if thats possible

[seattleblue]

38. No she can't. They participated in the decision.

[leftynyc]

54. No - that was the point

of Alito having it before the whole court. So they could all tell her to fuck off at the same time. If Alito hadn't referred, then she would have been able to "judge shop" for one that would refer it to the whole court. She's done.

[notadmblnd]

82. No. after Thomas refused her

it was sent to the entire court. It is done and over with. she needs to write the check and someone should verify that her signature is valid.

[jamesatemple]

98. And she needs to provide a notarized copy of her birth certificate

at the time of submitting her check for twenty grand! ...not that I don't trust her...

[NYC Liberal]

19. And the Freepers respond:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2571532/posts

Apparently, after everything that's happened in the last 8 years, THIS is the death knell for America.

[Dappleganger]

22. Gotta love this response...

"Too bad there wasn’t a more sane and competent attorney willing to fight for it."

******

That just means that more sane and competent attorneys even know what bat-shit crazy looks like to SCOTUS.

[NYC Liberal]

23. Now they think nothing has come of any of it

because Taitz dropped the ball, not because their conspiracy theories are total bullshit to begin with. :crazy:

[slampoet]

34. And yet these people this WE are the moral relativists when all they want is a better lawyer

to back up their whims.

[Old and In the Way]

26. Whatta hoot that nut factory is.

I like this one...

This is unchartered territory. No one knows what the outcome would be. The Constitution is not clear.

By my read Dick Cheney is now our President by law. The electoral college vote can’t be used as it is the fruit of fraud. George Dubya can not serve more than two terms. So it’s President-by-default Cheney.

I suspect that the major Constitutional crisis is one big reason some refuse to hear this case. That’s a result of AL Gore’s bad actions after his loss in Florida, compounded by the malfeasance actions of the Florida Supreme Court, which the US Supreme Court corrected, but in that correction felt uncomfortable. So tough for them!

Often periods of great civil unrest follow a period in which the weakling “great” harshly oppress the truly weak by no power greater than that very moral weakness. That’s where we are today.

Moral strength among the elites is almost nil.

His read is - Dick Cheney is President? How dumb is that? He must be a troll...

[dorkulon]

36. This one is my favorite:

I think they’ve been taken hostage by George Soros in league with the Islamists, who made the electronic run on the bank when McCain topped Obama in the polls and who have a standing threat to do it again if anybody balks at the communist/Islamist coup that’s been in quick process over the past 18 months.

I know it sounds crazy on the surface, but if I can get some urgent stuff done in the next couple weeks I’ll document and elaborate on my reasons for thinking this - not the least of which is that GW honestly seemed to believe that if TARP wasn’t passed the entire Western World as we know it would cease to exist. I remember at the time Drudge had headlines all at the same time, of GW saying the Western World would collapse, Chavez saying that since capitalism had failed we should do worldwide communism, Ahmadinejad saying since capitalism had failed we should do worldwide Sharia-compliant banking, and the IMF saying we were all screwed.

All in response to what we now know was one person’s electronic run on the bank in one day’s time. After that, everything changed in the election and in the rule of law. It was the beginning of the coup that got Obama into office and has kept him in office.

More reasons too, but I don’t have time to document it all now. Stevens calling Biden “Mr President” after swearing him in and Thomas saying they were evading the issue of whether you have to be born in America to be President are, I believe, quiet protests at being held hostage.


17 posted on Mon Aug 16 2010 13:01:43 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by butterdezillion (.)

Man, that George Soros is one clever guy!

[AlbertCat]

41. I know it sounds crazy on the surface,

Also, "above, about and underneath" ... to quote Milton.

A run on "the bank". The bank? THE BANK???

[krispos42]

44. Wow, they really fear this George Soros guy, don't they?

And yet, the people of DU barely mention him. From what I've gathered on DU, he's a) rich, and b) a liberal of some kind.

:shrug:



This guy needs thicker tinfoil, that's for sure...

[madmax]

69. They have a definite hard on for Soros

and Saul Alinsky.

Saul Alinsky's book Rules for Radicals dedicated to Lucifer
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=265040

:crazy:

[WhoIsNumberNone]

72. You think that guy EVER misses an episode of Glenn Beck?

The right wing mind has an amazing capacity to find liberal conspiracies in everything

[AC_Mem]

78. So funny!

And isn't it amazing that the liberals are so brilliant that they have masterminded this nationwide conspiracy that is so intricate and well coordinated that EVERYONE on the left is involved and it has been so perfectly executed that the conservatives have absolutely no power to stop it and can only wail about it on television, radio and blogs.

Wow, we are really amazing! :)

[WhoIsNumberNone]

79. It's exactly as they did in the 80s and 90s

They just can't blame it all on the Russians anymore.

[Caretha]

84. I want some of what butterdezillion

is smoking. Gawd that's got to be best damn shit down under. And I don't say that lightly.

[Name removed]

43. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Arkana]

86. Wow, this is the ugliest broad-brush piece of shit attack I have ever seen

and I've been a member here for almost seven years.

Congratulations, I guess--you're a horrible person.

[POAS]

88. The infamous "name removed" strikes again....n/t

[Xipe Totec]

28. Is she going to file an appeal to the world court? nt

[malaise]

76. Bwaaaaaaaaaah hahahahhahah

You nailed oit. :applause: :rofl:

[Xipe Totec]

77. The very definition of insanity

doing the same thing, over and over, and expecting a different outcome.

Next stop: DOOP - The Democratic Order Of Planets

[HopeHoops]

29. Would YOU let that idiot anywhere near your teeth?

:rofl:

[keepCAblue]

30. ":...misuse the federal courts to push a political agenda."

Gee, sounds a lot like the Maggie Gallagher and the rest of the xtian extremist who are "defending" Prop 8, threatening to appeal all the way to the SCOTUS even thought it is highly unlikely they have the standing to do so.

[NewJeffCT]

31. Damn activist judges - the lot of 'em

How many birthers will be saying that?

[DFW]

32. Taitz has not been following the rulings of Thomas and Alito

Those two ALWAYS rule in favor of a corporation and against the individual.

Whether a bat shit crazy right winger or an innocent condemned to a wrongful
execution in Texas, an individual is an individual. Under Alito and Thomas,
they lose. Taitz obviously thought she deserved to be different. Apparently
she was the only one who thought so.

[valerief]

33. I wonder if Oily will qualify for a big gummint, corporate-socialism bailout. nt

[Shining Jack]

40. K&R

:evilgrin:

[LibertyLover]

42. Looks like they didn't even get close to denying cert

[Tx4obama]

55. Taitz failed to file a 'writ of cert.' so it couldn't have been denied.

Read paragraphs THREE, FOUR, and SIX here:
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2010/08/12/1227633/birther-movement-high-court-gets.html

[madmax]

53. k&r

[ProgressOnTheMove]

56. Why didn't they fine her agiain for wasting the courts time, £1 million next time please...

They should do this for all those further applying to see his certicicate which has been shown beyond reason now.

[ProgressOnTheMove]

101. The above is an obvious joke, just in case i retract the above.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

62. Alternate headline: The SCOTUS Is Balanced

Or some such shit.


:think:

[msanthrope]

63. Was this Kagan's first SCOTUS action??? If so, awesome!!! n/t

[connecticut yankee]

68. Has she been sworn in yet?

I thought it was going to be in October at the first session of the new SCOTUS.

[msanthrope]

70. Yes--sworn and seated.....n/t

[JNelson6563]

64. I'm pointing and laughing at that lunatic.

lol

[lunatica]

66. Watch. Next she'll petition Obama to give her a Presidential Pardon

Stupid is as stupid does.

[depakid]

75. and he'll grant it!

:rofl:

[cascadiance]

73. My guess they are also afraid of touching anything to do with the 14th amendment...

... where if they "mess" with it to satisfy the "birthers", their actions might screw with the delicately constructed judicial activist notion of "corporate personhood" which depends on this amendment for its validity. If they f with it, perhaps they are afraid of screwing up their big prize of their ruling on Citizens United, which is what these corporatists really value!

[earcandle]

93. Interesting Idea... hmmm.... so much to think about, piece together.

[notadmblnd]

80. The best way to hurt the nutbaggers is to hit them in their pocket books

Ms. Taitz will either learn to give it up, or spend her money paying for the trouble she's trying to cause.

[DWilliamsamh]

81. Damn activist judges! (N/T)

[earcandle]

89. Maybe this fine of $20K will cut the crap!

[CocaNova]

90. I sure hope so.

I don't know the financial situation of that...thing but maybe it's not enough.

[Gamey]

91. $20k in "free speech" upheld

She's not big enough of a corporation. Didn't spend enough. Couldn't buy the court.

[Francesca9]

92. good

[Merlot]

97. The Supreme Court is actually wasting it's time on this?

[Arkana]

99. To be fair to the SCOTUS, it seems more to me

that they got tired of Orly's judge-shopping. Thomas, Scalia, and Roberts all turned her down, and then Alito just referred it to the full court so they could all tell her to shove it en masse. That way they won't be getting any more of her crap.

[Merlot]

100. Yes, that makes sense...thanks for clearing it up!

It does bother me that with all the serious issues we are facing, this case could reach the supreme court though.

[and-justice-for-all]

102. HA HA!!