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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:39 AM
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In U.S., Slim Majority Says Iraq War Will Be Judged a Failure
Source: Gallup

PRINCETON, NJ -- More Americans believe history will judge the Iraq war as a failure (53%) rather than a success (42%). These views have varied little over the past few years even as Americans have become more positive in their assessments of how the war is going.

2006-2010 Trend: How Will Iraq War Be Judged -- as a Total Success, Mostly Successful, Mostly a Failure, or a Total Failure for the United States?



To a large degree, Americans' predictions on how history will judge the war mirror their basic support for the war -- 55% say the United States made a mistake in sending troops to Iraq, while 41% disagree. War opposition has eased only slightly in recent years from a high of 63% in April 2008.

Despite their more negative than positive evaluations of the war effort, Americans think Iraq is better off now than it was before the war started. Sixty-four percent hold this view, though this is down from prior Gallup measurements.

Read more: http://www.gallup.com/poll/142367/Slim-Majority-Says-Iraq-War-Judged-Failure.aspx



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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:47 AM
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1. How can the Iraq war possibly be called a mistake?
After all, Halliburton got their piece of the Iraq oil pie!

(OK)--> :sarcasm:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:49 AM
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2. I thought Iraqi Oil Liberation was a success for those profiting from it. nt
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 12:11 PM
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3. another failed vietnam only WORSE because it was a HUGE mistake all along
had nothing to do with 911 and we still have not attacked the country that supplied all the hijackers - so it suck - we are not further in debt and going further in debt with hired mercenary killers that costs $100,000 a year each while people at home are unemployed or underemployed and we get to listen to crap conservative ads against obama healthcare scam by Florida's finest crap conservatives

Boy am not as naive as the rest of the idiots out there and this time I am very GLAD I am not - they fooled me once with Vietnam - not again
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:08 AM
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21. Vietnam was also a tragic mistake
It never was our fight and it would have saved a lot of lives had we never intervened.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 12:30 PM
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4. No, Iraq was not a complete failure!
Despite not finding WMDs or winning over the people, we were able to quite efficiently dispose of all those pallets of hundred dollar bills (they were probably soiled with all that sand over there), destroy billions of dollars worth of used equipment (hey, we got new stuff to replace it), and rid ourselves of that pesky surplus left to the Bush administration. I mean, dayum, what's not to like?










(is it really necessary)
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 12:42 PM
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5. Slinking out of the country under the cover of darkness
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 12:47 PM by Submariner
is the epitaph of this colossal lost war. The Bush family must be proud.

Iraq is better off? With less electricity and wastewater/water treatment than they had before Bush started this clusterfuck, I doubt the Iraqi's would agree that they are better off than before....especially with so many dead in their families and the refugees stranded out of the country.

Can't put lipstick on this pig. It will go down in history as Bush's lost oil grab war.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 01:32 PM
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6. I don't call an 11-point spread 'slim'.
Love how the M$M spins it. Not.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 03:13 PM
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9. First thing I thought of
When I saw the "slim" headline, I figured "Oh, 47-44 or something like that." You know, within the margin of error. 53-42 isn't slim, and it isn't going to get any slimmer as the full picture emerges of just what we've done to Iraq and ourselves.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 01:59 PM
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7. How can 81% of repugs think Iraq is better off and
67% don't think Iraqi forces will be able to maintain order? How do you reconcile the two?
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 02:23 PM
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8. It's not actually a war at all...
In fact it is a disgusting, unconscionable massacre and continuing, despicable war crimes.

Just because "we" are committing war crimes doesn't make our criminal activities into a war.

War was never declared or approved by the legislative branch as required by our constitution so I agree that "cluster-fuck" is an appropriate description and title.

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Lurks Often Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 02:40 PM
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15. You do know that we have
not had an official declaration of war by Congress since WWII?
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lakers4life24 Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 10:23 PM
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10. Was Already A Failure When Bush Decided to Invade
Thanks to Bush now we thousands of Dead Soldiers & Civilians, Trillion + of wasted dollars, and the country of Iraq still in disarray and chaos.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:27 AM
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11. Slim?
Oy!
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:29 PM
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12. It was not a war, it was a war crime,
The Bush Admin, Xe/Blackwater, and various conservative media blowhards should be in prison.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 02:27 PM
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13. "Failure" . . . . . ???? How about a CRIME . . . ???
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 06:02 AM
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14. Disagree. Iraq war was a success.
It made alot of people alot of $$$, directly and indirectly (by giving Bush a free hand to do whatever they hell he wanted to).
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miyazaki Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 04:56 PM
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16. The repugs often cite the Iraqi's are now better off with Hussein gone
-like they ever gave a shit about them in the first place.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 07:16 PM
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17. What do they mean "...will be..."? n/t
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 12:29 AM
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18. Having been to Iraq a number of times...
I'd say if we left Iraq like it was in 2006, sure, you could call it a failure. But when I left there in 2009, they were rapidly rebuilding. In fact in some areas they were building luxury condos and new parks. The city of Najaf had opened up its new airport and terminal to fly in tourists and religious visitors. The Iraqis I had worked with were moving their families back to Baghdad. There were still pockets of violence but things were beginning to look up.

I think if they can keep it together and get beyond their differences, they have a strong chance of being the next Turkey.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 02:09 AM
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19. This really gets to me:
"Americans think Iraq is better off now than it was before the war started."
How utterly, incomprehensibly STUPID can people be??!!
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PacerLJ35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 02:16 AM
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20. Having worked with a number of Iraqis
I can tell you that every last one of them that I knew was glad the Saddam era was over. However, standards of living have slipped, but they are convinced that'll change.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:29 AM
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22. It shows an almost perfectly-polarized nation /nt
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demground Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:44 AM
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23. Strange stats
How is it possible that 67% Republicans think Iraq war not a
mistake (Dems 20%) yet 81% think Iraq was better off then
before war? It doesn't make sense. Can we trust the Gallup
poll?
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