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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 07:48 PM
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Iran prepares to start up first nuclear reactor
Source: Associated Press

BUSHEHR, Iran – Iranian and Russian nuclear technicians made final preparations to start up Iran's first reactor on Saturday after years of delays, an operation that will mark a milestone in what Tehran considers its right to produce nuclear energy.

Nationwide celebrations are planned for the fuel loading at the Bushehr facility in southern Iran, while Russia pledges to safeguard the plant and prevent spent nuclear fuel from being shifted to a possible weapons program.

"The startup operations will be a big success for Iran," conservative lawmaker Javad Karimi said in Tehran. "It also shows Iran's resolve and capability in pursuing its nuclear activities."

The West has not sought to block the reactor startup as part of its confrontations over Iran's nuclear agenda, a clash that has resulted in repeated rounds of U.N. sanctions against Tehran. Washington and other nations do not specifically object to Tehran's ability to build peaceful reactors that are under international scrutiny.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100820/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iran_nuclear



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USA_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:18 PM
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1. Good
They deserve access to the same progress as does everyone else.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:20 PM
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2. Now they can stone uppity women to death under electrical lights..
what could possiblie go wrong...
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:19 PM
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5. The US has been doing it for a hundred years
Of course, we prefer the visceral feel of just using fists, I understand.

And we're not Muslims for the most part, so I understand that our rampant woman abuse problem doesn't bother you much.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 09:00 AM
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12. I think Salem was a bit far back. Theocratic
lunatic behavior sanctioning public murder based on morality is not done here.

As for your conclusion as to what bothers me its pretty fucking stupid. If you are going to be insulting, be direct.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:20 PM
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20. Oh, I'm pretty sure I've pointed out what an Islamophobic Arab-hating waste of meat you are
in the past; no need to re-hash.

Second, you're telling me that American women are not abused regularly? I'd be willing to put money on a bet that the United States has far more wife-beating and spouse killings than Iran. The Iranians get on the news because they're not the "Shining City on a Hill" founded on anglo-saxon protestant "values" like us!
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:49 PM
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26. Are those killings government-sanctioned?
Your moral relativism train is breaking down on the track.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:04 PM
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15. ROFL! tasteless, but i laughed in spite of that...
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:31 PM
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3. Are those Israeli jets in the distance?
Edited on Fri Aug-20-10 08:32 PM by roamer65
:hide:
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 08:43 PM
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4. Keep the ayatollahs away from the control rods
Don't let them touch anything.
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Francesca9 Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:41 PM
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6. Like we need more nukes!
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-20-10 11:53 PM
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7. There is absolutely no violation of international law here. unlike Israel.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:17 AM
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8. Yeah they aren't under sanctions at all..
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 12:40 AM by SnakeEyes
Now how is Israel violating international law with regard to nuclear?
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 05:19 AM
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10. Obviously you have no idea what you're on about.
Do some research.
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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:19 PM
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17. regarding?
Israel? or Iran being sanctioned? Please, elaborate.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:09 PM
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16. I think the argument would be that Iran signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty
and now isn't abiding by its terms

There will be those who will argue why Iran has every right to violate it, but I personally believe that the expansion of nuclear weapons in the middle east is NOT a good thing

A good thing is that Israel and the Palestinians are back to the negotiating table


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SnakeEyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:21 PM
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18. Correct
Iran signed and now aren't following the rules.
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:30 PM
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22. Power plants aren't limited by the treaty.
Weapons are.

Iran's position is that this is a power plant, not a weapon.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:28 PM
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21. yep
The only three countries to not sign it are India, Pakistan and israel.

the treaty is all fine and dandy except for the fact that the Big five get to keep their nukes. This hypocrisy is the reason India refused to sign it.

Im all for nuclear disarmament..but NPT is not the way to go. i'm still amazed how so many(virtually all) countries in the world signed up on this snake oil scheme.

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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:23 AM
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9. You go Iran...you crazy bitch. Iraq will be right behind you!
Yeah....just what the Middle East needs. Considering our little puppet, Israel, has their share of nukes...I guess the race is on.

HOW can we expect Iran to hold back if Israel has an arsenal? Holy shit peeps. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Is this how the end of the world is supposed to come? I've been hearing about since my first days at St. Ignatius Elementary School. Guess I might get a chance to see it all go poof in front of my eyes. Hoooray!
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 07:45 AM
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11. There is no moral equivalence between the two nations. Israel
has not threatened to wipe Iran from the face of the earth and Iran's existence isn't at risk by her neighboring countries. Israel on the other hand has been under siege - just to survive - from day one. There probably some on DU who don't give a rat's ass about Israel's future. I do.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:56 AM
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13. You are right. Things have not been good in Iran since the Islamic revolution took place
Minorities in Iran are treated worse than ever

I agree with you, there is no moral equivalence between the two nations.

Why some would elevate the leadership of Iran to an ideal, I suspect they do so only because of their hatred of Israel

It is ironic that the same arguments applied against Israel, are used against the building of the Islamic cultural center in New York

Hate breeds hate, and I have no doubt, some would be happy if Iran is able to develop nuclear weapons.

Everything is always Israel and the United States fault as far as some are concerned

Right now Israel and the Palestinians are back to the negotiating table pushed by the Obama Administration. That is what should be celebrated as good news, not that Iran, and their most likely desire to militarize nuclear fuel





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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:33 PM
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24. I hope you're not suggesting that life under the Shah was better
Because such a statement would make my eye twitch something fierce.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:48 PM
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25. Better that today? Trading one dictator for another - one professing
to implement God's will, is no improvement. At least under the Shah you could drink all the booze you wanted.

And what country did the Shah vow to exterminate? What holocaust did the Shah deny? clear better than today.

What is any better under today's assholes?
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 11:42 AM
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27. You clearly don't know anything about Iran
Please find a book and read it.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 12:49 PM
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28. 24601 asked a good question.
I'd be interested to hear definitive answers.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 07:30 PM
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29. Actually he asked a few stupid questions
And again, find a book and read it.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-23-10 08:49 PM
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30. You can find books to support any position - I'd prefer to hear
your personal explanation why Iran's religious dictatorship today is better than the secular one in their past.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-22-10 08:31 PM
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23. Actually Israel actually has done just that
Shimon Peres said it, in fact. Guess who has more authority over his nation's military; the President of Iran, or the Vice Premier of Israel? C'mon, guess!

Also, hasn't Israel been calling for bombing strikes on Iran for a while now? Haven't heard similar rhetoric coming out of Iran.

Iran in fact was under seige for 8 years thanks to the US proxy of Saddam Hussein, who was supplied with US intelligence and US chemical weapons. The existence of Iran was, in fact, quite in danger through most of the 1980's, and it was your tax dollars that made it all possible. I hope that makes your hateful little cock hard.

Incidentally, Israel supplied weapons to Iran during the Iran-Iraq war, first its own and then later ferrying American goods to Iran when your boy Reagan discovered that war profiteering doesn't really have a side.

Israel's existence is in no danger from anyone, except perhaps from its own government - After all, all the politivcal parties there profit from dead Jews, and I don't see any of Israel's supporters like yourself backing off from that notion either.

On the other hand, we saw what sanctions did to Iraq. I'm sure that little chubby I just gave you is fucking throbbing when you think of over a million children - just children, not countign adults - of the arabushim cockroaches who perished thanks to ten years of sanctions on Iraq. We saw what this did to the infrastructure of Iraq, we saw how it actually strenghened hte regime and made it MORE brutal and repressive, and I'm crtain that more of the chaos in Iraq today can be traced to those sanctions than to our invasion and occupation.

And you - and Israel's leaders - what this done to Iran now.

So who's out to destroy who again?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:00 PM
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14. Your point has merit, why would we want a proliferation of nuclear weapons in the middle east?
some believe it is tit for tat, so it is alright. It isn't, and as you alluded to it isn't just Israel, Sunni and Shia factions are not on the best of terms

The positive is that middle east talks have resumed be Israel and the Palestinians, and if they are able to get a two state solution, that will help things greatly


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Arrowhead2k1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 10:38 PM
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19. Ever since WWII, we've been trying so hard to mold the world into our image of what it should be.
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 10:38 PM by Arrowhead2k1
It's been nothing but trouble. Countless lives have been lost, and extreme forms of hatred towards our country has been generated as a result.

Iranian affairs aren't any of our business, and personally I don't consider them a threat as long as we quit poking them with the world's longest stick that we've got here.
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