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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:56 PM Original message |
Obama administration expected to appeal ruling on gays in military (as soon as tomorrow) |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Color me surprised. |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Why?!!! That's his job |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. They put up a brilliant defense during the trial.... |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. Indeed--the gov't called no witnesses, submitted no expert reports, merely |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 05:03 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Sometimes, the way to win is to do your job. |
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meegbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. gee, what a ... surprise |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. looks like a delay until after the elections.. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. Do nothing about corporate campaign spending but come out swinging about the gays |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. What should the executive branch do about corporate campaign spending? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Better Question: What has the administration done about corporate campaign spending? |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. You should ask the person who made the claim. I'm as curious as you. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. So let me just make sure I understand you correctly. You are saying the admin has done nothing |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I concede no such thing. I was asking the poster to prove his claim |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. So you are sure Obama has done something, you just have no clue what it is. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I don't claim to know what they've done. The poster in question implied that he does. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I'm not representing anyone. I was simply asking you a question, a question you cant answer |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Far from upset. You guys are making frantically wild & unsubstantiated claims. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. No, I'm not asking you to disprove a negative. That would be absurd |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Should the executive really be the branch that "cleans up elections"? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Yup, it's super secret 6 dimensional chess. Have a nice day |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #22 |
94. Cannot prove a negative |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. The administrations own actions and words lead us to believe he will do this. |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. You do know that you don't represent all gays, right? You're entitled to... |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
83. That's a big fat "duh". |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #32 |
93. So what is this "you guys" then, if you are answering one person? |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. Oh please. |
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displacedvermoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. Again, it sounds like anyone who disagrees with anyting Obama |
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beforeyoureyes (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
46. Same way women's bodies were held as barter in the health insurance wet dream reform |
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YoungmoneyJosh (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. HA! love it. |
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BolivarianHero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Wow! |
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HillWilliam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. Our Farce Advocate in action -- again |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
68. You are just plain ignorant...the President has to defend ALL laws... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #68 |
102. Except when he doesn't. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. Not until that appeal is filed will I believe it |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. So you don't think he'll file it? |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. I think there is at least a chance of it yes |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. exactly No comment somehow means "expected to appeal" tomorrow |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. They are not basing that claim on the "no comment" |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. ahhh anonymous sources |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Yup, anonymous sources. Do you have a point you would like to make? Or... |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Yes my point is, I don't believe Media Hype. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Ok, I'll check back with you on a new excuse once they do appeal this |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. What are you implying now? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I'm just curious what your opinion will be once they do appeal this |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. The point is that anonymous sources are not necessarily right. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. let's see, appeal ruling, fast-track to Supreme Court, lose there, blame the Court, done |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
71. Exactly. It's an old trick. they will probably .... |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
12. My wallet will soon be closed for good to Obama (as soon as tomorrow) n/t |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Facts are irrelevant |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Like the fact that you think gay people suddenly not losing their jobs will hurt the military |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. When you say "you think" to that poster, where did they imply that? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He quoted the administration and emphasised that point in post 13. |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I just read post 13, and your implication of what the poster said |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. He emphasised the arugmnet that they need to disband DADT in an orderly fashion |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. not what you imply the poster means. He was quoting an article. |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Can you please answer my question? What does Gibbs mean? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. He doesn't want the decision overturned on appeal in the Supreme Court |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Well hello there, that is what I read too |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Since I have you here too might as well try to following this logic with you as well |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. No, that's not what he said. And let me get your logic straight |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Is this court decision the final word on this in your opinion? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. yes, if they dont appeal this would be the final word. |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Why don't you ask Gibbs? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Wow, what a lame excuse. Yeah, let me get Gibbs on the phone real quick |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Which part was a lame excuse? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:33 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. The excuse was you not wanting to answer the question and instead telling me to ask Gibbs |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. You asked me what I thought he meant? Yes? |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:45 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Ok, you wanna play dumb. No problem, let me rephrase the question |
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SunsetDreams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. I don't know who you are quoting but it is not me |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:27 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Post 54, you agreed with his interpretation of what Gibbs said. |
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Fearless (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. +1 I don't see how any GLBTQ person could concionably donate if they do appeal. n/t |
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Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The Log Cabin Repubs continue to donate to Republicans, and I suspect |
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cyr330 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:09 PM Response to Reply #23 |
81. I CERTAINILY Will N-O-T |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. President Barack Obama "strongly believes it's time for this policy to end." |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Yes, The ignorance expressed by many sure IS mind-numbing |
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t0dd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. +1. |
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keepCAblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
61. +1,000,000 |
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Chipper Chat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Congress can't agree on what brand of toilet paper to place in the |
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Dragonfli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 02:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. He does have a habit of saying one thing while doing the opposite, I agree! |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
41. No one could be that stupid. n/t |
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beforeyoureyes (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
45. Barney Frank was on Olberman and he implored the administration to DO NOTHING |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. That's what the appeal is going to be...nothing |
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beforeyoureyes (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
47. Quick action on this- what about halting foreclosures so the fraudulent banksters can't steal |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
52. Hopefully he will just "look forward" instead. nt |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. Unfortunately, he has to...it's his job |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 04:35 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Where is it spelled out that the DOJ must appeal this ruling? |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. I have a long answer, but here's the briefest point I can provide... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. +1 |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Smartest post on the thread. People should calm the fuck down and read p85 |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Note--p 85 of the pdf, p84 of the opinion.... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 04:50 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. It's a brilliant "non defense". |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-14-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
97. But let's not forget how the Obama administration "defended" this law..... |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #64 |
88. Actually, Chief Justice Roberts says they don't ............ |
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frederico (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
73. Presidents are obligated to defend any existing law |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Let me repeat myself. Where is it written that this is in fact the case? |
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AllTooEasy (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 05:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Read my post a couple levels above. |
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Exilednight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. You're mistaken. Read post #88 |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. No they're not. Obama let another challenge go unappealed just yesterday. |
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cyr330 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
80. I think I'm going to have to leave DU |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. take a look at post 76 n/t |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. I am with you on that boat. |
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cyr330 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. He sure does want the GLBT vote. . . |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #87 |
107. I'm not sure it's going to matter by 2012. |
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TeaBagsAreForCups (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
85. Ahhh, yes.... |
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GOPNotForMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-13-10 08:32 PM Response to Original message |
92. This poses a very interesting legal question |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
104. The administration feels obligated to defend a law passed by Congress and signed by the President |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. But if it helps fundie Christians, they feel no such compulsion. |
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