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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:40 AM
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Rabbi Breaks With Paladino Over Apology
Source: NYT

The alliance between the Republican Carl P. Paladino and an Orthodox rabbi from Brooklyn has fallen apart, with the rabbi denouncing Mr. Paladino on Wednesday for his apology over remarks he had made about homosexuality on Sunday.

The rabbi, Yehuda Levin, who helped write those remarks, said Mr. Paladino “folded like a cheap camera” because of the uproar they had set off. And the rabbi said he could no longer support Mr. Paladino’s candidacy for governor of New York.

“Which part of the speech that you gave in Brooklyn to the Orthodox Jewish community are you apologizing for?” Rabbi Levin asked at a news conference in front of St. Patrick’s Cathedral, on Fifth Avenue. “Will we see you next year with your daughter at that gay pride march?”

Mr. Paladino, during a meeting with a small Orthodox congregation that was arranged by Rabbi Levin, said Sunday that children should not be “brainwashed” into thinking that homosexuality was acceptable, and he criticized his Democratic opponent, Andrew M. Cuomo, for marching with his daughters in New York City’s gay pride parade.

On Tuesday, after broad condemnation, Mr. Paladino apologized for his “poorly chosen words” and said he would “fight for all gay New Yorkers’ rights” if elected.

Rabbi Levin said that he considered the apology a betrayal, and that he pined for the “old Carl” who spoke from his heart rather than bending to political whims.



Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/14/nyregion/14paladino.html?src=ISMR_AP_LO_MST_FB



I like the part when the Rabbi suggested "militant gays" wrote Paladino's apology and made him read it...
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mucifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:48 AM
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1. There are a gazillion rabbis in NYC why does this kook get all of the attention? nt
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VioletLake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:49 AM
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2. Gay guerillas, no doubt,
probably wearing assless chaps.

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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:50 AM
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3. A bit hypocritical IMO. When I was raised in a Jewish household
and went to religious school, I was taught family is foremost. The dedication to being a Jew started and ended with the family.

Asking Paladino to chose the strict position advocated by the orthodox Jewish sect at the expense of his family is just wrong.

He is an ass, but he does have the priority of his family correct.
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:00 AM
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4. I hear the rabbi has a closet full of pink triangles from the old days
Funny how those who are discriminated against are themselves mindless fucking bigots.

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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:19 AM
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5. Saw that rabid bigot on L O'D's show
What bigoted ass holes - the rabbi and paladino both.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:21 AM
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6. I despise fundies...
Of any stripe, christian, jewish, muslim whatever: assholes the lot of em.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:44 AM
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16. +1000
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:30 AM
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7. He was a tool on Lawrence O'Donnell last night ...
:puke: "yes, but" "yes, but" "yes, but"
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:05 AM
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8. When the local Fox news reported this this morning, it made mention of...
the gay bar Paladino owns-- run by his son.

Spent a good five minutes trashing the asshole, they did.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:37 AM
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10. I love a good ol' conservative bum fight.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 09:35 AM
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9. Paladino is a lot more fun when he speaks from his ..er.. heart.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:08 AM
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11. 'folded like a cheap camera?'
Is that a particularly meaningful mixed metaphor (ok, simile) or is rabbi maybe not entirely with it in the head?

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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 10:25 AM
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12. What's the metaphor mixed with?
I've heard of "folded like a cheap suit", but is there another metaphor involving cameras?

It was a curious thing to say.

:hi:
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:06 AM
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13. I've never heard of a folding camera.
Maybe mixed with "posturing for the camera" or something? Very odd remark.

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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:07 PM
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21. Back in the day
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:33 PM
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23. Sounds like his ethics are stuck in the pre-digital days.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:54 PM
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24. sometimes not even that far back ...
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:55 PM
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18. Talk radio's Bob Grant said it all the time, and probably still does
I never got it though, nor heard it anywhere else.
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chieffeathers Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 06:01 PM
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20. mistake
I think he meant camel not camera. Some camels are cheaper than others.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 10:00 PM
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25. Sounds like he's counting his grass before the barn door hatches. (nt)
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:11 AM
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14. Pandering while in a tailspin. Just what everyone wants from a leader.
If he didn't piss 'em off with his initial statements, he pissed 'em off with his apology.

I expect the PTB in the RNC (and the corporations that fund them) are on the phone with all the (R) candidates today telling them to just STFU - about anything.

They need to get OFF the actual issues and get back to riling the generic anger, or they're going to lose all their elections.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 11:29 AM
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15. Aside from watching Paladino get bitten in the ass by his ultra-
orthodox sponsor, I have to admit that I really enjoyed the good Rebbe's reply when Paladino tried to peddle the 'I just found out my nephew is gay, that's why I'm rejecting what I said yesterday' : "Mazel Tov. Maybe we can have a coming out party for him (but in the meantime, drop dead").
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queerart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 02:29 PM
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17. The Rabbi Was Pissed....

As it was the Rabbi himself that wrote Paladino's speech for him.....

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/10/paladinos-anti-gay-speech-was-written.html


So the "poorly chosen words" comments got up the Rabbi's nose.....


You got to love it when "haters", hate each other..... so when two negative forces join... does that not make it a positive?


Negative + Negative = Positive? Yiks, does this mean they will now marry? :rofl:


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mikeSchmuckabee Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 04:06 PM
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19. That's one lucky dago!
2000 years ago, different story.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 07:27 PM
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22. Paldino was obviously reading his speech
I suspected that he hadn't written it.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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