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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:21 PM
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Berkshire Billionaire’s Son Battles Soros on California Ballot
Source: Bloomberg

Oct. 15 (Bloomberg) -- Charles Munger Jr., son of Berkshire Hathaway Inc.’s Charles Munger, is battling billionaire George Soros, unions and Democratic Party leaders to strip congressional redistricting powers from California lawmakers.

The younger Munger, 53, and his wife have spent $10 million to win support on Nov. 2 for an initiative that puts the task of reshaping California’s 53 U.S. representative districts into the hands of the Citizens Redistricting Commission. A competing measure backed by Soros and labor groups would erase the panel.

“I’m doing this to try to ensure voters have fair districts where representatives will compete for offices,” Munger said yesterday in a telephone interview from Palo Alto. “Elected politicians are picking the voters, voters aren’t picking their representatives.”

Munger has mailed 660,000 DVDs of “Gerrymandering,” a 77- minute documentary, to regular voters in California in support of Proposition 20, which would give the state panel, created by a 2008 ballot measure, added power over congressional district lines. With his wife, Charlotte Lowell, 53, they account for most of the $10.5 million raised to support the initiative, the California Secretary of State’s website shows.



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Why doesn't the conservative filth un-gerrymander TEXAS instead?
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aquamarina Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:40 PM
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1. I got a copy of this DVD a few weeks ago.
I was wondering who sponsored it - and no, I haven't watched it yet.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:35 AM
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13. I'm using mine to scare birds in the garden.
I was wondering who paid for it but I knew that I didn't need to waste my time watching it.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:42 PM
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2. Gerrymandering-------nothing like what rethugs have done in TX
and several other states over the last 8 years......when dems do it.....BAD. when rethugs do it.......public mandate!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:09 PM
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3. Seems unconstitutional to me
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:43 PM
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4. I really wish
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 01:43 PM by AsahinaKimi
Out of state Conservatives would leave California alone.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:50 PM
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5. California ballots must be long with all those propositions...
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 01:58 PM
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6. I don't know if you saw the recent one..
I think it was 5 or 6 pages long, printed on both sides.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:42 PM
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10. good god... 5or 6 pages ...its a wonder people even vote...and if they even
know what the hell they are voting for.....
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:40 AM
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11. Yeah i had to study
It was like doing homework.. seriously!!
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:45 PM
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7. One of many reasons for VERY high estate taxes on the mega-wealthy...
Second, third, and fourth generation trust-fund kids are a plague on the nation. If we would strip them of their assets and redistribute the wealth every generation, we could possibly save our society. Allow a million bucks to pass, tax-free, per descendant (maybe 2 or 3 million for a disabled descendant). Index it to inflation. Take 100% of the rest. Redistribute it via educational or small-business grants for people who demonstrate promise and financial need. This would go a long way to resolving many of the underlying problems this country faces, IMO.

We need to keep the GW Bushes and the Charles Munger Juniors of the world busy trying to prop up their high-living lifestyles so they don't have enough time or money to meddle in state and national affairs, unless they are willing to pursue such endeavors under their own steam, which is highly unlikely.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 02:54 PM
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8. It would be a fine idea but who decides the members of the commission
that determines the districts?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 03:24 PM
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9. It's something like 5 dems, 5 repubs, and 4 "independents".
And you gotta have some of all three to draw districts. I can't swear to the numbers, and I'm too lazy to look it up, but that's how it works.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:55 AM
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14. Those are the numbers as laid out in Prop. 11 which was passed two years ago
but the commission authority applies only to state legislative districts. What the current proposition (Prop. 20) would do is extend this untested process to Congressional districts.

There's a competing proposition (Prop. 27) which undoes the commission established by Prop. 11 and defines districting goal differently by requiring equal populations in districts as well as providing voters with the authority to reject the new boundary maps.


If both 20 and 27 pass, the one with the highest number of votes becomes law.

I'm hoping both fail.

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:37 AM
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15. If it passes, will half the California Republicans change their registration to Indie?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:46 AM
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17. It seems unlikely that there will be no attempts to game the process.
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 08:47 AM by bemildred
The one policy lawmakers have universally shown genuine affection for is a safe seat for them and their cronies. But the current process is already bizarre in its results, so I don't know that we have much to lose. And when the new dispensation becomes corrupted, we can always change it back, there will be other initiatives to do that just about every two years, I would think, something the parties can still agree on.
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Unvanguard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 09:31 AM
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12. Some lottery process, I think, with guaranteed partisan balance.
It's a strange way of doing it, but probably better than the present method, which incentivizes incumbent protection for members of all parties.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:40 AM
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16. "Guaranteed partisan balance?" Sounds like a unicorn
Edited on Sun Oct-17-10 08:44 AM by No Elephants
Closest they could come to guaranteed partisan balance would be appointing 14 Democrats.
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