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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:46 AM
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Gay conservatives target Democrats in ad campaign
Source: CNN

A political group of gay conservatives will begin airing ads against a handful of Democratic candidates on Monday, including a spot against openly gay congressman Barney Frank of Massachusetts.

In a statement, GOProud declares that this is "the first time ever a national gay organization is airing a television advertising campaign going after Democrats."

"Barney Frank is an absolute embarrassment," said Christopher R. Barron, Chairman of GOProud's Board of Directors. "He represents the worst kind of Washington politician."

In addition to Frank, the $50,000 purchase of airtime by GOProud will pay for ads against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), two progressives who pride themselves as champions of gay rights.

The group will also run commercials in support of Rep. Charles Djou (R-Hawaii), a freshman who was one of five House Republicans who voted to repeal "don't ask, don't tell."

All of the ads will air on the Lifetime and Bravo channels, whose demographics have a large share of women and members of the LGTB (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender) community.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/10/25/gay.conservative.ad/index.html?hpt=T2



The folks at GOProud have to be fucking crazy. How can you align yourself with a party that does not recognize your rights as a same sex couple? Talk about identifying with the people that jail you....

Cowards all.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:47 AM
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1. Fuck 'em all
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:52 AM
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2. I can understand some gay people being disappointed with the Democrats,
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 08:56 AM by ZombieHorde
but I have a hard time understanding why some gay people would align themselves with Republicans. Do they hate taxes more than they like their rights? I suppose diversity is the spice of life.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:08 AM
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7. If you have enough money and power, it doesn't matter.
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piggy2000 Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:43 AM
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14. Sell Outs
This group of people are called sell-outs! There are always people in a particular suppressed group who will carve out benefits for themselves while they sell out the rest of the group. This is disgusting. Especially since the Repubs have gone on record time and time again that homosexuality is a choice and that it can be cured. Consequently, the Repubs have done nothing to to help Congress change laws.
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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 03:36 PM
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23. You nailed it. People like that are the scum of the earth. Good post.
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Sub Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:53 AM
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3. How can you align yourself with a party that does not recognize your rights as a same sex couple?
Interesting question that crosses party lines.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:00 AM
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4. lol did obama and the top dems pass legislation allowing same sex marriage? ummmm nt
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:03 AM
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6. but voting for Republicans?
:wtf:
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:11 AM
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8. Not yet, but there is no ambiguity on which party is closer
Just ask the good people at:

http://www.stonewalldemocrats.org/
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:32 AM
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32. Log Cabin Repubs might want to debate Stonewall Dems
And both sides would be able to make some good points.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 10:42 AM
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13. As a whole group, who would be more inclined to pass legislation allowing ssm?
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 10:43 AM by SemperEadem
Republicans or democrats?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:06 PM
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21. So as a homosexual the Democrats are appealing to me by saying they are closer to maybe, in the
future, no promises, we don't support it now, but who knows, we might just give you your civil rights in a few years, but again no promises.

Oh boy, just point me in the direction to throw my vote cause they have it!
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:37 PM
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22. OTOH, which party is likelier to ship gays off to reeducation camps
in the not-so-distant future?

Yeah, it sounds over the top, but did anybody in 1926 Germany think it was possible that good Germans would be shipped off en masse to concentration camps within a decade?

Do you really think there are not those in the Republican party who like to see such a solution?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:12 AM
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30. And you base this "likellier" scenario on what, specifically?
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 08:16 AM by No Elephants
And, as a N. Carolingian, I am sure you know many evangelical Dems would not mind a religious retraining "cure" for homosexuality.

Please see also, Reply 29.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:05 AM
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29. Based on what? Clinton's DADT? His signing DOMA? Obama's campaign statement
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 08:20 AM by No Elephants
at Rick Warren's church abouc same gender marriage? His choice of Rick Warren to give the invocation at the most viewed Inauguration in all of American history?

The thousands of DADT discharges/careers and lives ruined since Obama took office? Failure to repeal DADT or DOMA since January 2009, knowing that seats are always lost at mid-terms?

Obama's D of J comparing homosexuality to bestiality and incest in legal briefs sworn to, signed and filed in court? Appealing a suit Log Cabin Republicans won? A Republican judge invalidating California's gay marriage ban? Cheney's very openly gay daughter campaigning for Bushco, then becoming a very visible strategist and spokesperson for Republicans, including on Fox? Barely closeted gays, like Mehlman, when he headed the RNC, holding other high places in the Republican Party, Etc.

Your heart and your spine have to be in the right place. Who will do what first remains to be seen.


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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:02 AM
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5. all conservatives are idiots........... nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:14 AM
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9. Aw, geez. That just makes no sense at all.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:18 AM
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10. I'm absolutely sure a RW theocratical American will serve the interests of
the gay conservatives extremely well. These people are fucken immature fools that think defeating democrats like Frank will help their cause.


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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:49 AM
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11. GO Proud? I'm sure these people are only proud of how rich ...
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 09:50 AM by activa8tr
they are, and how they don't want freakin financial regulations on their banks and investment houses to take away their two Cadillacs and trips on luxury cruises.

I've met more than a few very very rich gay men who made their money in banking and investments. SOME of them are actually voting for REPUBLICAN Congrespeople, fearful of Democrats in Congress over-regulating their profits and over-taxing their incomes.

HOWEVER, I have met a few rich gay men who VOTE DEMOCRAT, GREEN, or progressive because they have their head screwed on the right way, and know what it's like to be a member of a minority looking to attain equal opportunities.

I doubt the majority of gay men and lesbians are going to turn out to vote for a Republican Congressperson just because Obama is being an idiot and a coward in handling DADT. As for DOMA and the business with prop 8, I don't know a single gay person in California who is voting for Whitman,Fiorina or any other Republican on the ballot. They are solidly in Boxer's camp, too.



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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 09:59 AM
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12. To the OP: The Democratic Party also does not recognize our
rights as couples. Kaine, Obama, Biden, all of them are openly opposed to marriage equality. So that argument is a loser. They state, just like Palin, that their religion demands that they oppose equality for all. That is just the fact of the matter.
Voting for Republicans is a daft way to deal with it, but that does not mean the DNC recognizes or supports equality. The GOP being worse does not mean the DNC is correct, or that they hold a righteous position that is opposite to the GOP. The Democratic Party has to gain that standing themselves, being slightly better than Michelle Bachmann is not winning argument that can sustain for long. Deal with it.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:28 AM
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31. Biden supported gay marriage on Ellen DeGeneres's show, but I take your point.
Also, sometimes, in other areas, a Dem can do what a Republican can't, and vice versa.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:39 AM
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15. I am gay, and I know a couple of these "Gay Conservatives"...
I never understood it, it has to be about money and everything else to them is not relevant.
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 11:44 AM
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16. How? Money.
I would imagine that these people are very very wealthy or at least connected with people in power. As we know, when you're wealthy and powerful, laws don't mean shit. Why should they care about these things when it wouldn't have any effect on their lives either way?
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 12:06 PM
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17. This just goes to show the diversity in the gay community.
There are some wealthy gays who put their own pocketbook ahead of issues that are important to their own community. Just like there are black conservatives, there are gay conservatives too.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 12:21 PM
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18. Gay Republicans: greedy trust fund brats and corporate shills who happen to be gay
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 12:22 PM by brentspeak
They make a big deal about being gay, but have always supported the GOP no matter how much the Republican party has stomped over their civil liberties.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 01:03 PM
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19. And Barney Frank will still be reelected by a huge margin
so these whiny fuckknuckles can shut the hell up right now.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:40 AM
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33. Hope so. 13 points up!
Edited on Tue Oct-26-10 09:15 AM by No Elephants
ETA: Wonder if Massachusetts right to marry helps all Democrats when it comes to the vote of members of the Massachusetts GLBT community?
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Kurska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 02:03 PM
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20. n/t deleted
Edited on Mon Oct-25-10 02:04 PM by Kurska
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 07:08 PM
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24. Jewish Nazis target Allied armies.
:crazy:
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 01:02 AM
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27. Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-10 08:52 PM
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25. In some manner, has to be related to the battered spouses seen on Cops.
Faces bloodied, they start to attack the officers as they try to arrest their abuser. Usually while screaming "but I LOVE him!!!"
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 12:13 AM
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26. K&R thank you for posting this, RiverStone. it's very important. nt
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 07:18 AM
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28. Once rent boys, always rent boys...(n/t)
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 08:59 AM
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34. Sad. On the other hand, perhaps it's important Dems realize they don't get a free "lock" on LGTBs.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:02 AM
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35. Damn good question.
"How can you align yourself with a party that does not recognize your rights as a same sex couple?" So is,

"How can you align yourself with a party that does not recognize your to die for your country with integrity and confidence, rather deceit and constant fear?"


So, I guess the OP is advocating for the Green Party, which is, AFAIK, against DU rules.

Also, I've seen so many DU posts chastising our GLBT brothers and sisters for allegedly being single issue voters. However, judging by this thread, we are appalled if Republican members of the GLBT communitiy do NOT seem to be single issue voters.


I am for human rights for all humans, be they Democrats or Republicans, so I don't have to have double standards or doublethink. And, when it comes to GLBT issues, both sides have accomplishments, albeit of different kinds, and both sides have things they should, IMO, be ashamed of.



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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 09:13 AM
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36. In a related story, chickens campaign in favor of Colonel Sanders
nt
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-10 10:46 AM
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37. Very special place in hell reserved for these bastards. nt
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