Outside Debate, Rand Paul Supporter Stomps On Head Of Woman From MoveOn.org

[Tx4obama]

Source: Alan Colmes/Liberaland

Outside the Rand Paul-Jack Conway debate for the U.S. Senate seat from Kentucky, a Paul supporter stomped on a woman associated with the liberal group MoveOn.org.

People in the crowd pulled the woman’s blonde wig off. She claimed to be presenting Paul with an award from RepubliCorp. It’s a group created by move-on that focuses on what it calls the merger between corporate America and the Republican Party.

“I’m here to present Rand Paul with the Employee of the Month award, however his supporters were not very nice to me and my message which is same as everyone else. I got my head stepped on and I have a bit of a headache,” said Lauren Valle, MoveOn.org.

Read more: http://www.alan.com/2010/10/25/outside-debate-rand-paul-supporter-stomps-on-head-of-woman-from-moveon-org/

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Another article regarding the assault is here: http://www.fox41.com/Global/story.asp?S=13386076

VIDEO here: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/male-rand-paul-supporter-stomps-head-of-female-moveon-member-outside-debate.php

EDITED to ADD:
MoveOn's political director Ilyse Hogue tells TPM that Valle is in the hospital and they're awaiting word on her condition.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/male-rand-paul-supporter-stomps-head-of-female-moveon-member-outside-debate.php

[sakabatou]

1. So Rand, what are you going to do now?

I hope the woman sues the hell of that Rand Paul supporter.

[sensate2000]

49. So how are they going to spin this?

Predictions anyone? "Patriot detains terrorist in disguise" "Agitator provokes peaceful supporters"

[AtheistCrusader]

68. They can't spin it.

There isn't a damn thing they can say to justify wrestling her to the ground, let alone multiple people assaulting her, let alone stepping on her.

There is no excuse. There CAN be no excuse.

[vaberella]

95. Spinning is in process. These guys were liberal in disguise. n/t

[Capitalocracy]

99. I don't care whether they're "liberals in disguise" or not

I just want to see them in jail.

Will be interesting to see how far that rumor gets without any evidence.

[JTFrog]

110. From a comment at one of the links below:

"Kentucky police asked the woman why she used her head to attack the soles of that poor man’s sneakers."

[happygoluckytoyou]

270. rand "there are 2 sides to this....." yeah rand.... THE TRUTH and THE SHIT YOU SPEW

[Bitwit1234]

130. They are just not reporting it if you go to CNN home page

you will see where and aide was fired for texting Scott's opponent in the Florida debate. A whole big article all about it, but nothing about a crown of supporters of Paul's beating up a WOMAN at his debate. Wonder why????????????????? Think I will email them about it.

[Bitwit1234]

132. They just put an article up.

[dgibby]

186. CNN has shown the video of the attack at least 3 times this am.

I say at least because that's how many times I've actually seen it, but I've been away from the TV, so it could be more.

[Deep13]

148. They can spin it the way they always do...

...by lying.

[GoCubsGo]

181. And, by blaming the victim. n/t

[txaslftist]

232. Victim?

She's an activist. She put on a wig and tried to break through a candidate's security to personally confront him.

She got exactly the reaction she was hoping for.

[JoshieR]

239. Does that mean...

...that we should be physically assaulting conservative protesters? Activist or not, I highly doubt she went to that rally with the goal of getting stomped on.

[txaslftist]

246. I think if a conservative activist tried to break through

a Democratic candidates security to confront the candidate with a sign or whatever, our reactions to the candidate's supporters throwing her to the ground and calling for the police would be significantly different.

We'd all condemn the guy who stomped on her head, regardless of which side it happened on, but tackling her and pulling off her "disguise"?

As for her goal, I suspect getting stomped on works a lot better for her than whatever her little protest thing was going to be.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

73. I've been to some sites where they are claiming she "attacked Dr. Paul"

These people will lie about anything.

[druidity33]

112. yeah

verbally, with the truth no doubt. Probably also outside earshot of the good Doctor too.

What a bunch of cretins...

[Mark D.]

209. Those Cowards

We needs to shake their foundations, using their own justifications against them. This group about a GOP corporate merger does that. Ron/Rand Paul supporters are a group that needs to be dealt with. They try to say they are off from the GOP establishment. But they are corporate liberals, as the GOP are. They want even more deregulation, they're even more corporate servants and traitors.

The Thomas Jefferson they think they new is rolling in his grave. He'd have 'em rounded up if he'd been president in these times. He said clearly we had to crush corporate aristocracies that even in his time was rising. He saw how the rich preyed on the poor and he HATED IT. The financial elites, they can't hold power, without the complicity of those 'below them' like these idiotic supporters!

Ready to change the language? I don't mean just carry on like Billow Riley. I mean stop asking how they can support policies that put people in the street, or starve kids. THEY DO NOT CARE. They're using 'Constitutionality' and 'Patriotism' to justify their selfishness. Call THAT to task. Say it loud-say it clear. Tea Partiers, Libertarians, you are NOT true patriots. You work against our liberty!

[txaslftist]

226. this group needs to be dealt with?

I think the MSM is doing a pretty good job of dealing with what's left of them (now that the GOP has already basically co-opted them).

[Posteritatis]

230. The standard spin is that the whole thing was scripted. (nt)

[defendandprotect]

290. STOMPING WOMEN for our rights? .... ATTACKED we defended ourselves--!!

DANGEROUS WOMAN stalks Rand?

They'll find a way!!



:evilgrin:

[JDPriestly]

81. Sounds like it might be a criminal assault.

We'll have to see the tape.

[greensleeve]

124. Here is a still of the perp

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[spooky3]

280. why wasn't he arrested????

[roguevalley]

87. So, will I be pilloried if I mention Hitler and his brown shirts? I

do recall hearing they did similar things.

[Blacksheep214]

88. Jack Booted Thugs

No matter what they wore!

Now we can have that talk about tyranny!

[RaleighNCDUer]

152. But these are kinder, gentler thugs -

they have sneakers, not jack boots.

[HillbillyBob]

215. No you won't be pilloried..or should not be

There are those of us who have been saying for years the nazi/kkk/kreestians all amount to the same fascist crap. ME ME ME f in divas bunch of selfish self centered fools.

When I predicted that the economy would take a dump in 2005 (i was not here then) i got all kinds of crap about it. I told my mom to pull her money market and stocks and put them in something safe like a savings account..she actually listened for a change and did so. I got called a doomer and gloomer. I have been kind of watching these hate groups for years. It was only matter of time before they got to crazed to contain themselves. We may have to actually defend our selves from them. I have in the past.

[Enthusiast]

229. This is how it started.

The reason we make comparisons with Hitler and the brown shirts is because they are similar.

[JDPriestly]

236. Precisely!

[Doctor_J]

135. What's he going to do? Take his Senate seat in January

:shrug:

[tiny elvis]

267. rand paul publishes full page newspaper ad with tim proffit endorsement

today
http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2010/10/full-page-ad-in-herald-leader-today.html

[Faygo Kid]

2. It's only going to get worse. Violence is their cup of tea.

Pun intended.

[lunasun]

7. I agree

no concern for anyone they don't like = will try to wipe 'em out if nothing else works

[RKP5637]

165. History repeats - just what we saw in WWII, sadly. n/t

[krabigirl]

48. Yep..I think she handled herself very well actually. I would have been much more angry!

[Dawson Leery]

3. Tea Parties/Republicans are the new brownshirts!

[Myrina]

172. Teabaggers = the "Norsefire Party" from V for Vendetta ....

:scared:

[Ramulux]

4. So we have psychos....

causing violence at a Paul debate, a Murray town hall, and a Angle debate. Anyone seeing a pattern?

[Faygo Kid]

5. Forgot about Joe Miller handcuffing a reporter.

That was a nice one, too.

Of course there's a pattern. Given that these groups are egged on by so many (Beck stands out; Palin, too), we are bound to see more violence in the next week.

[Dawson Leery]

6. These same reactionaries used violence in the following cases:

Terri Schiavo, The Dixie Chicks (commentary against Bush), Recount 2000, Clinton's 1992 election, John Lennon (rightfully claiming that the Beatles were more important to teenagers than religion), The Civil Rights movement.

[Liberal Insights]

9. you bet there's a pattern !

As I have taken great pains to show at http://Liberal-Insights.org/liberalvsconservativemartyrs.html ,
Conservatives are MUCH MORE VIOLENT than liberals when it comes to dealing with opponents.

Whereas liberals compete, and WIN, with WORDS, conservatives resort to "2nd ammendment remedies" to defeat their liberal opponents.

[tomg]

187. Thanks for the information. Solid. nt

[Mark D.]

211. That's right brother.

That's what I highlight above. They'll get really antsy if we call out that the things they think they 'stand for' and 'fight for' are liberties. They're violating liberties and the Constitution. They need to be taken to task on that. Maybe make them realize they're being duped by these who'll call themselves their saviors, and their role-models. Rand & Ron Paul. Ronald Reagan. Milton Friedman. Ayn Rand.

Their platform is self-centeredness. They are sociopaths. Their goals will hurt many more US citizens than help. Making them anti-American and un-American. They'll hate to hear that, they'll push back, but it's the truth. Maybe a young lady like that in a crowd of them isn't the safest way to express that. But it's work that needs to be done. She was brave and I am glad she wasn't seriously hurt.

[Dawson Leery]

255. I saw nothing America about the crowds of ignorant thugs

who called for the Dixie Chicks to be censored. These thugs called for violence against the anti-Iraq War activists too.

[Enthusiast]

234. Yes, it's the

very same ideology.

[Chulanowa]

106. I'm seeing a pattern that liberals need to learn to punch a motherfucker

Sorry, I know that it's not a popular sentiment, but, speaking for myself, I'm not a person who's just going to get stepped on, literally. When you're confronting violent people, the ability and willingness to defend yourself against assault needs to be a given.

[Mad_Dem_X]

134. I agree. Libs need to start fighting back! n/t

[Le Taz Hot]

167. The first thing I thought of

after viewing that video was, if that was me being held down, I'd be in jail right now.

[Grown2Hate]

177. Hear, hear! It's VILE shit like this that makes me want to head down there and start

some shit myself. These fucking bullies get away with it because no one does SHIT to them for it. I would have loved to have been there to fucking stomp that brown-shirt myself. :mad: :grr:

[cliffordu]

193. Yep.

Karate lessons for everyone...

[Enthusiast]

235. The meek will inherit the earth.

It will be piled on their dead bodies.

[RKP5637]

166. We're possibly watching a repeat of Germany WWII. n/t

[southmost]

8. disgusting!

what a jerk

[DeSwiss]

10. K&R

This is what one can expect from cretins.

[era veteran]

56. No kidding, I was at work about a mile from the debate

but missed it. I am calling the Lexington Police Chief, Ronnie Bastin. We need to lock those fuckers up.

[iwearshoesinky]

11. Rand Paul Supporters Assualt Woman on Camera

Source: Fox News 41

Developing Story!

Read more: http://www.fox41.com/global/Category.asp?c=163829&autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=5229652&flvUri&partnerclipid

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This is going to blow the ship out of water!

[sakabatou]

12. Oh yay

:puke:

[Lucy Goosey]

13. What is wrong with people?

Some of those guys need to be found and charged with assault.

[Liberal Insights]

32. What's wrong? They're CONSERVATIVES !

As I have taken great pains to show at http://Liberal-Insights.org/liberalvsconservativemartyr... ,
Conservatives are MUCH MORE VIOLENT than liberals when it comes to dealing with opponents.

Whereas liberals compete, and WIN, with WORDS, conservatives resort to "2nd ammendment remedies" to defeat their liberal opponents.

[Scruffy1]

142. Use thright term-they are fascists

[Bluenorthwest]

151. Conservative is fine as well.

This is conservatism in full flower. These are Republicans.

[donquijoterocket]

175. It's also Kentucky

Home of the creation museum and the state about which Mark Twain said When the end of the world comes, I want to be in Kentucky, because everything there happens 20 years after it happens anywhere else.” They'll probably try to spin this since it's their usual reaction to anything but when the violence gets this excessive it might be too much.I'm wondering where all their new-found regard for the first amendment and free speech got to.

[slor]

294. That quote actually refers to Cincinnati, OH...

and it is "ten years". I was born in Cincinnati, and in many respects that quote is spot on.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

14. Holy shit!

I hope the faces of these "men" are published far and wide. Public shaming is in order (in addition to criminal charges).

[madmax]

15. I can not believe what I just saw

Did you see the man put his foot on her back and almost her neck. These people are Brown Shirts. The country is in deep shit, kids.

[femrap]

158. It looked like he was trying to break

her neck....seriously. If she had been face-up and he had done that, he could have killed her by breaking her larynx. His actions are serious assault tactics.

She went to the hospital, right?

I want all those men involved dressed in orange by midnight tonight.

I lived in Lexington and thought it was a pretty progressive city. These dudes are racist, sexist pigs...and epitomize 'the white angry male' that threatens our democracy.

Attacking a young, petite woman for using her right to free speech....just fucking surreal.

Keep the pressure on the Lexington Police to do their job!

[subsuelo]

173. typical cowardly conservatives n/t

[madmax]

185. Have you ever heard the term

'curbing' or something like that. I think it's where the person being beaten has their mouth open at the edge of a curb and someone stops them in the back of the head causing the jaw and teeth to break. :wtf:

[femrap]

OMG....no I have

never heard of that. Geez...now when I look at a curb, I'll think of something altogether different. I'll have to go back and look at the picture and video. I thought it was a yellow line on the street.

Thugs. Lexington Police better do their job.

[madmax]

16. dupe - trembling hand

[KingFlorez]

17. Wow, what tough guys they are, beating up on a woman

Goes to show what sort of people support Paul.

[Faygo Kid]

22. Yeah, my first thought too. Coward.

No doubt a Beckbot and a dittohead.

[Scruffy1]

143. And they looked real proud of themselves

[MrSlayer]

18. Real tough guys there, beating on a woman.

These people are scum. Absolute scum.

[madmax]

23. Bet they slap the wives around, too. eom

[lark]

202. You can pretty much count on the fact

that their wives are either cowering in fear and afraid to say "boo", or they are beaten. These facist thugs are so damn insecure about their manliness, that they attack anyone who disagrees with them, especially if its a smaller person like a woman.

[Dawson Leery]

19. Joe Miller had his thugs "arrest" a reporter.

The Tea Parties are brownshirts. We all saw this garbage with Clinton. The GOP never accepts that they can lose an election.
In the fall of 1999, I had a conversation with a former acquittance who made it clear he was an admirer of Mussolini's tactics(I kid you not, this is TRUE!)! :wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf::wtf:
He also said he had no problem with the impeachment of Clinton, as he believed that they(Republicans/Right wingers) have the right to do whatever is needed to take power,
including de-legitimatizing an duly elected President.

[bjobotts]

28. their ultimate goal is to destroy government and replace with a Plutocracy

[txaslftist]

178. I think you mean replace the Plutocracy with a different Plutocracy.

[dgibby]

191. What they really want is a Theocracy.

A Dominionist Theocracy at that. They're all Talibornagains, won't be happy until they've eliminated or subjugated the rest of us.

[lark]

203. I disagree

Theocracy is just a tool for them to control people, facist plutocracy or feudalism with the rich as nobles is what they want and will do anything at all to achieve. That's why so many of the Repugs get caught in affairs, they only use religion to control the sheeple and don't believe one damn word of what they are saying. Craven and disgusting are about the best things I could say about them.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

279. and see how they do such an excellent job of brainwashing the fat and greasy citizens

to do their dirty work!

ABORTION!! Those sluts are MURDERING BABIES!! HOMOS want to CONVERT your CHILDREN!! LIBERALS hate JEESUS and the TROOPS and use big words!!!

[NRaleighLiberal]

20. Absolute ignorance in action for all to see. Disgusting.

Unforgivable. And THAT right there is the tea party in a nutshell.

[Arrowhead2k1]

21. This is only the start. These tea-baggers have spent the past couple years being

riled up into a frenzy by the rabid right. It's only natural that eventually things boil over on to the streets like we see here. This movement is dangerous.

[CLANG]

24. Assault and battery, conduct regardless of life, etc.

They have a pretty good picture of the stompers head. Send the fuck to prison.

[mmonk]

25. Republicorp strikes again.

[nvme]

26. Psycho F--king Brown Shirts

I don't believe I am seeing the Reich-wing acting with such impunity. why am I not suprised

[iwearshoesinky]

27. If you didn't know

Jack Conway, the democratic candidate, is state attorney general. I hope he roasts these f***ers.

He's also neck and neck for a republican seat if you can help at all.

[cal04]

29. Lauren Valle of MoveOn.org was stomped by a Rand Paul Supporter

by second gen
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/10/25/913588/-Woman-Assaulted-and-Stomped-By-Rand-Paul-Supporters

Lauren was there as part of Moveon.org's latest campaign to present Rand Paul with the Employee of the Month Award from Republicorp™ and several people in the crowd surrounded her, stripped her of a blonde wig and wrestled her to the ground. One man is seen stomping on her head as she lays on the sidewalk

During the Health Care Debate, in Missouri, Kenneth Gladney knocked over a disabled SEIU worker, and was pushed down in the ensuing effort to help the man up. It was said that he was "beaten down by SEIU uinion thugs" even though the video told a different story.

In this video, there is no "story".

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[era veteran]

55. Alerted, and it is spelled hillbilly

Tired of stereotyping shit.

[cal04]

39. TPM: Valle is in the hospital and they're awaiting word on her condition

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/male-rand-paul-supporter-stomps-head-of-female-moveon-member-outside-debate.php
(snip)
MoveOn's political director Ilyse Hogue tells TPM that Valle is in the hospital and they're awaiting word on her condition. We'll get you more information when we have it.

We have a call out to the Lexington police department's public affairs office for further comment. According to WTVQ, an assault report was filed but there have been no arrests.

In a separate incident, according to the Kentucky Post, "a Conway supporter stepped on the foot of a female Rand supporter, who recently had foot surgery. The woman was wearing a surgical boot, but after the injury, her incision was cut open. Police say she refused medical treatment and also filed an assault report."

[vaberella]

98. How does that woman not go to the doctor if her incision was cut open?!

Does that make any sense?!

[JTFrog]

104. She may have wanted to go to her own doctor.

:shrug:

[spotbird]

192. No, and who goes into a mob

with a fresh incision? She didn't seek treatment right away because she had to open the incision?

CNN isn't covering the story. No surprise there.

[vaberella]

251. Oh Good...so it's one of those Backward B people. n/t

[southmost]

30. sickening display

that asswipe needs jail time

[rasputin1952]

31. I hope that SOB that stomped her head loses everything in the

law suit that should be forthcoming, and some hefty jail time as well for assault.

[Aristus]

160. Lose what, though?

The trailer, the pickup, and the gun rack? :shrug:

[bigdaddycoles66]

207. If it was me doing the stompping, I would have been in jail for

hours without a phone call! Kentucky police are the worst.

[bjobotts]

33. They think they can react like that at ANY public debate.No right to put hands on her.

[bjobotts]

35. Tells me they don't believe in democracy only their own way. Deplorable brownshirts.

[usregimechange]

34. Crazy candidate = crazy supporters

[tandot]

37. Teabaggers and Rand Paul supporters remind me of Nazis...what do you expect?

All of those people are on the edge and prone to violence. They don't mind beating women or children.

[tsuki]

138. Fourty years ago, their old men were probably stomping Blacks.

These men were born into hate and violence, raised with hate and violence, and now follow their leader, Rupert Roo who legitimizes that hate and violence.

[RKP5637]

171. Exactly, all they need is a cause. They thrive on hatred and violence and then many

link it to religion and carry their hatred and violence into religion as their protective robe.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

38. Attempted murder

caught on tape.

Even if he thought there was a need to, he wasn't restraining her. He was trying to snuff out her life.

[madmax]

40. O'Donnell or Rand

which one is the biggest gift. Either they themselves or their supporters show what they really are.

I'm very sorry for the woman who was beaten, she may be a catlyst in this mess that's going on in Kentucky.

[LynneSin]

46. At least here in Delaware we outnumber her supporters bigtime

These people are horrible!

[usregimechange]

74. But in KY...

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[Tunkamerica]

44. what is your problem?

you wanted that women to have blood drawn? you're sick.

It's still assault and battery by several people.

The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) an intent to cause harmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensive contact to the plaintiff.

Generally, the essential elements of assault consist of an act intended to cause an apprehension of harmful or offensive contact that causes apprehension of such contact in the victim.

The act required for an assault must be overt. Although words alone are insufficient, they might create an assault when coupled with some action that indicates the ability to carry out the threat. A mere threat to harm is not an assault; however, a threat combined with a raised fist might be sufficient if it causes a reasonable apprehension of harm in the victim.

Intent is an essential element of assault. In tort law, it can be specific intent—if the assailant intends to cause the apprehension of harmful or offensive contact in the victim—or general intent—if he or she intends to do the act that causes such apprehension. In addition, the intent element is satisfied if it is substantially certain, to a reasonable person, that the act will cause the result. A defendant who holds a gun to a victim's head possesses the requisite intent, since it is substantially certain that this act will produce an apprehension in the victim. In all cases, intent to kill or harm is irrelevant.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

50. In some jurisdictions, a kick to the head steps the charges up considerably.

Attempted murder.

IIRC, one of the Jenna kids was charged with attempted murder due to a head kick.

[lobodons]

53. Its going to take something sick

To wake people up to just how evil, wicked and disatrous these people are. This story is going nowhere.

[Tunkamerica]

71. well, i hope you continue to be disappointed

that people aren't being hurt more.

[Occulus]

114. I think I know what he's getting at: "if it bleeds, it leads"

It's a well-known media maxim. I should point out that the Brownshirts of days gone by were allowed to get away with this very thing, and more (Godwin can go straight to hell on this one). The only way that can happen today is if "the story" keeps getting buried on page C-3. Depending on who the paper's editors decide to support, this particular incident could get buried, land on the front page- or receive no mention at all.

In this sort of situation, as sick as it makes me to say it, blood pushes the story to the front page, probably as a headline. The media is not about to paint the tea party "activists" as a mob of dangerous thugs unless people do get hurt, repeatedly. For this case specifically, attention will be drawn to what happened, of that much I am certain, but it will be a "major" story only if there is lasting injury to this poor woman.

That's just an observation, but it says one whole hell of a lot about the state of American mass media. Sensationalism and marketing have turned what should, by all rights, be a "top story tonight" into a coverage toss-up.

:grr:

[Tunkamerica]

292. Well it was in the 1st segment of our local news in NC

despite blood.


Sometimes I think the state of the media is sensationalized.

[Nostradammit]

52. Go sell your lunacy to the tea party

"This story" went all the way here to Oregon and by morning the
thug who did this will have his name, picture and address all
over the internet. Then maybe you'll get to see that blood you
thirst for.

[vaberella]

97. We need a mod here. You're fuckin' crazy. n/t

[Occulus]

117. Sadly, he's probably correct in that this incident will receive little coverage.

YouTube will help quite a bit, though.

[JTFrog]

105. Some versions of hope are just fucked up beyond all recognition.

:thumbsdown:

[Occulus]

120. Read downthread to a post regarding the reaction of a Fox commentator.

This post.

You might think what he said is fucked-up (and it IS, but not for the reasons you and others give), but sadly, his opinion, if we are to trust the post made downthread, is in fact correct.

We need media reform in this country. Specifically, we need to somehow eliminate Fox News.

[madmax]

141. I'm sorry but, I don't think blood is necessary

In most civilized societies this brutality is sufficient to provide a clear picture of what type of people these Teabaggers are and what they believe. Their way or brutal force.

[DeSwiss]

42. K&R

We will in all likelihood see more of this happening on the floor of Congress as the TeaBaggers and other assorted cretins arrive.

- This is what these assholes call "governing."

[Tunkamerica]

43. wow

[LynneSin]

45. OMFG I have goosebumps - that is horrible

This is what the tea party has unleashed - these are horrible, hateful people who are borderline psychos.

[pa28]

80. That's why I'm asking you for a little dem-pact here to keep this kicked.

Everything you need to know about the tea party and 2010 "Republican tide" is contained in the video above.

[vaberella]

94. no proble. This is ridiculous!! n/t

[SpiralHawk]

216. Republicon soul ugliness

fugly...

[krabigirl]

47. wow....

[clayton72]

54. Tea Party = American Taliban?

This is shocking and troubling. Is the Tea Party a domestic terrorist group? Should its leaders in the media and in politics be held criminally liable for the violence that results from their fanning the flames of hatred? Are they the American Taliban? Is it time to dig up McCarthy and hold hearings?

[Occulus]

115. Yes to all of that.

This is becoming politically-motivated domestic terrorism and should be handled appropriately.

[midnight]

57. isn't that assult??? Why isn't this guy arrested???

[caseymoz]

64. Because I don't think police saw it.

But as this is investigated, there should be some arrests. I mean they have these guys on video and it has gone viral. That's clearly assault, and at least two probably more Rand-thugs are probably going to be up on charges. I think what they did is even illegal in Kentucky.

[pa28]

58. Looks like assault to me.

I hope she pushes the issue to the bar.

[Matariki]

63. Here's a screenshot of the asshole. Feel free to spread it around the interwebs.

[AtheistCrusader]

67. Fuck, that looks like my dad.

Impressive considering he died 2 years ago.

[Turborama]

92. I think I recognize that thug!

Isn't he this guy with the helmet...?



More pics http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8041197|HERE>

[cory777]

86. k&r

[Cass]

102. Omg! That was frightening, I hope she'll be ok.

Those slimeballs should be charged with assault.

[rainlillie]

51. This is why we must get out there and vote. We can't allow the lowlife..

Republican/ teabaggers to win. I hope they find the guy who stepped on her head and the other guy who helped push her to the ground and throw their sorry asses in jail.

[gtar100]

59. Conservatives denegrate liberals based on "morality". Just remember

they have no sense of morality to stop them from violence. Liberals, on the other hand, do. It's what makes us better than them and it's what makes us smarter than them. But it also makes us vulnerable to brute force attack. We have an obligation to protect each other because we have something of real value to protect. I sure hope Valle is ok. But this pisses me off. They fight for greed, we fight for the prosperity of of all living beings, present and future. Just because these libertarians and conservatives have their collective heads up their ass doesn't mean we must suffer their madness. A bunch of stupid pricks are what these people are. And they want it to come to blows. If we can succeed on our terms without violence, all the better. But we must not kid ourselves about what conservatives are capable of. They are as deranged as a cult and willing to act out on their delusions. We must be vigilent.

[TomCADem]

60. The Brown Shirts Have Arrived And They Shall Be Known As The Tea Party

[kenfrequed]

61. Frightening.

This is an uptick in the behavoir of the tea party in terms of violence. We still have barely over a week until election day and these people could get a hell of a lot worse.

[MadMaddie]

282. It was always there

they feel emboldened by Rush and Beck.

If you haven't had a chance to watch the Rachal Maddo special, "The Assasination of Dr.George Tiller", you will see eerie similarities in the behavior. The Right to Life group continued it's relentless hate talk against Dr. Tiller and they finally had several nuts go after him with bombs, guns and eventually assasination.

We are seeing the same behavior with these Teabaggers.

They are going to lose next week, I expect the violence to get back over the next two years.

[kenfrequed]

295. Agreed.

They are not going to do as well and will probably fail to take either house of congress at this point. Recent reporting about the infiltration of the tea party by racists and the attempted beating of a protestor by these right wing lunatics are going to discredit them and steal wind from their sails. This right wing resurgence is mainly a matter of media volume anyhow.

[caseymoz]

62. But . . . but . . . Obama's the real fascist!

He's undercutting our democracy!

[crim son]

65. So upset watching the vid. And I wonder, do conservatives

have a stash of vids of democrats stomping heads, running them down, insulting their children or the handicapped or otherwise behaving like uncivilized thugs? I wonder, and I wonder how the incidents compare because this violence has meaning. This violence is not merely a measurement of anger, but a measurement of self control, desperation, understanding, mental stability... it isn't random and it isn't acceptable. Are our most fervent supporters as apt to kick somebody in the teeth as the fervent conservative?

I'm honestly curious.

[mwrguy]

66. That's a signature move for nazis

Stomping heads on the curb.

This guy needs to be taken down.

[vixengrl]

69. My riff--

Tuesday, October 26, 2010Rand Paul Supporters step on a lady's head--WTF?


That is amazing. We've had people show up at rallies and protests and tea party things all these last couple years with tricorn hats, wigs, actual open-carry side-arms, you name it, and signs with commentary that has been--well, truly special and highly indicative of this nation's support of freedom of speech. But to see a person not merely heckled, which might be expected, if you think they support the "wrong team", but actually seriously physically assaulted, as if her opinion and right to voice it was a mortal threat?

What the hell is wrong with these people? This young lady was just engaging in some, um, Constitutionally-permitted freedom of speech? The correct response if one disagreed was a letter to the editor, a blog-post, a righteous "booing"? But to hurt a person just trying to get across a political message?

That is some brownshirt shit. That is not being about freedom of speech. That is actually about being insecure, certain that you'll be shown up, being a scared-ass punk that can't take criticism. So here's some more criticism: Rand Paul already has been a touchy weirdo about his personal beliefs and all--and now his supporters seem insecure, too--and violently so. Why are they scared? Why do they think a little criticism will hurt the campaign...huh? Because Rand Paul doesn't know shit from a hole in the ground, has a half-baked libertarian/christianist mash-up cynical whatever works philosophy, and because he's really just a chunk of his old man's stool that decided he had a POV at some point worth inflicting on other people? In other words, he's not just a bad candidate, he's probably a bad person, and his supporters, the die-hards, the people who would do a thing like this? Just suck and you shouldn't want to be like them! You can think Conway's a smarmy punk, and he is pretty, and maybe pretty smarmy--but he is a serious political character who is not a thug-magnet. As Rand Paul is. Whose supporters stepped on the actual head of an actual live lady, because they were very mad, and had no real good reason to be except that their candidate is a punk.

Any questions?

[JDPriestly]

84. I don't see how it is possible to be both a libertarian and a Christian

at the same time. Jesus taught that people should take mostly care of each other. Libertarians believe that people should take mostly care of themselves. Those are opposing and incompatible value systems.

[txaslftist]

179. Well, it's certainly difficult to be libertarian and a democrat!

[prolesunited]

70. What I didn't get was the newscaster said

that the woman denied police were involved but they were seen questioning her after the event.

WTF! Doesn't that make it sound like she was the one in trouble and being investigated? Last time I checked, she has the right to attend a public event with a sign and wig. It was the "men" who threw her to the ground and stomped her head should be questioned. Both need to be charged with assault.

[Quixote1818]

72. There must be an attempt to identify that guy and for the bloggers and news media to go after him

Maybe a reward could be put up for anyone who can positively prove who that ass is. He needs to be confronted and taken down!

[lobodons]

75. This is a start to identify the person who holds her down

Do you know this guy?

http://www.bluebluegrass.com/2010/10/25/republican-rand-pauls-brownshirts-assault-and-stomp-the-head-of-a-moveon-org-woman-before-the-ket-debate/

[Quixote1818]

85. Great to see this! Thanks! nt

[RayStar]

91. Great pics

Thanks for the closeups. Several of these men and I think one woman need to be arrested for assault ASAP.

[Dawgs]

129. Who would have guessed that it would be a 'lower class' fat middle aged white guy?

WTF!!

[mbperrin]

76. Arrest, prosecute, imprison.

Make Paul disavow this action, or it's his, and he should be arrested as an accomplice.

[proud patriot]

77. These aren't conservatives these are radical extemists

Enough is Enough ! They have gone too far .

[Daphne08]

111. +10000

[Occulus]

121. You're being redundant

:D

[pa28]

78. Tea Party extremists resort to violence over free speech.

Where is your coverage CNN, NBC, CBS, WAPO and the rest (you know who you are)? Do you have a story here or does the truth spoil your narrative?

[Name removed]

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[MedicalAdmin]

140. +1

We don't need to stereotype. In fact it weakens our position and candidates. We need to be the better people we proclaim to be.

[dorkulon]

82. The guy holding her down is wearing a "Don't tread on me" cap. Oh, the irony.

More pics of him here: http://www.bluebluegrass.com/2010/10/25/republican-rand-pauls-brownshirts-assault-and-stomp-the-head-of-a-moveon-org-woman-before-the-ket-debate/

[JTFrog]

107. He's the guy that takes her down and holds her down.

I also want to know who the asshole was stepping on her head.

:mad:

[Occulus]

123. If you follow the links on this thread there's a skinhead standing next to him at one point

Bet it's him.

And no, I have nothing against men who shave their heads- I actually like the look and "wore" it myself at one point- but violent conservative men who shave their heads are "skinheads" by definition.

[JohnnyLib2]

83. delete--duplicate

[jmondine]

89. Wow... did the guy doing the stomping think this would be good publicity?

[Arrowhead2k1]

90. I'm thinking he's none too smart, much like the rest of his ilk. nt

[DFW]

93. I think we must have missed the small print

Underneath his "Don't tread on me," there is probably a line of fine print that says, "rather, let me tread on you."

And so he did.

But, come to think of it, since when has the level of Teabagger discourse ever been any higher?

[vaberella]

96. Like father like son. Thanfully they can't blame this on a Black man. n/t

[Adsos Letter]

100. And the Fox "newscasters" don't seem a bit fazed by what they are seeing on the video

The female "newscaster" on Fox sounds like she thinks it's all just fine. :puke:

[Occulus]

119. A poster upthread was roundly castigated for saying that if there's no blood

there won't be a story, and for lamenting that this will probably be pushed under the rug because the woman wasn't seriously hurt. People upthread called him sick, told him to save it for the Tea Party "activists", and so on.

Well, well, well. I don't watch Faux, so I can't corroborate your statement, but if what you're saying is true, it looks like he was right.

Sad.

[nolabear]

205. It can't be pushed under the rug if we keep lifting up the rug.

We have the ability to keep the outrage going. In fact we have the duty to do so. Every time one of them brings up Freedom of Speech a la Juan Willliams, point out this little bit of "freedom".

[Adsos Letter]

217. I never watch Fox either; but they are the source of the video everyone is linking to.

[sabrina 1]

101. 'The land of the free, the home of the brave'

I wonder what their heroes, the FFs would think about three or four thugs throwing a woman to the ground and stomping on her head because she had a political sign they didn't like?

Their pictures should all be all over the internet. I wonder if the cops there will arrest them, and if not, is it a Federal crime to deny someone their Constitutional rights? I saw a comment on another blog (linked here I believe in the OP) from a guy who said he is a criminal defense attorney but can appear in Federal court and will call the KY cops tomorrow to see what is being done about it.



Good for bluebluegrass bloggers for getting the pictures.

I think that one is the stomper, a guy in a navy blue shirt threw here down and held her with another big, brave 'patriot' helping him.

Wow, it took three male teabaggers to handle one small liberal woman!

"We the people" and "don't thread on me"!

[AsahinaKimi]

103. Disgusting behavior

From Tea baggers, which they think is acceptable. This needs to go viral, so people can see, just how bad these thugs are.

[indimuse]

108. I've had ENOUGH of the Right wing VIOLENCE !

And IF that were me...THAT MAN would be in handcuffs!

[Botany]

109. They have been fed lies and think they are patriots when they are just ..

.... thugs and cowards.

not the first time either. Columbus Ohio 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13TQow6zJsQ&feature=related



REPUBLICAN TEA PARTY ANTI HEALTH CARE PROTESTERS MOCK PARKINSON'S PATIENT

Dick Army's Freedoms Works and Sal Russo's Tea Party Patriots have gotten millions
from insurance companies, Koch industries, big oil, and God knows what other groups
to whip up mobs to force the minority's will on the majority. Rush and Beck help to
fan the flames with their over the top language and Rand Paul's, "I will not shake his
hand" lack of civility does not help either.

If those people are not arrested then the Dept. of Justice should arrest them for civil
rights charges ...... I hope those dirt bags have deep pockets because they are gonna
lose big time in a civil case too.

[Vinca]

126. That picture still moves me to tears. It's hard to imagine cruelty like that.

[era veteran]

128. I so agree

[tavalon]

113. Kicked for the night crowd

Let's keep this at the top. It needs to be seen.

[PVnRT]

116. Local news (Lexington) roundup

Lexington Herald-Leader: Link

WKYT: Link - Odd that they have nothing else up yet, since they showed the video on the local morning news here at 6:30.

WLEX: Link

WTVQ: Link

I'd link to the Courier-Journal, but their website doesn't want to function properly.

[era veteran]

131. I checked LFUCG jail intake of last 48 hours, no arrests

Time to get on Police Chief Ronnie Bastin. This is quoted from Lex. H/L "Before the debate, dozens of noisy supporters of each candidate gathered in front of the KET studios on Cooper Drive as Lexington police kept watch." Not watching very well though.

[PVnRT]

144. Unfortunately, she wasn't injured

and unless they can identify some people from video footage, I doubt any arrests will be made.

[Bluenorthwest]

153. Terrible thing to say.

It is good if she was not injured, not 'unfortunate'. This is a human woman, not a term of art.

[PVnRT]

156. Yeah, that's what I meant

:eyes:

[Bluenorthwest]

250. Don't know your posts, and sarcasm on the internet is not easy

There are others here saying it is too bad she was not bleeding. That was the context in which I read you post. Sorry to have missed your sarcasm.

[vaberella]

254. to say "unfortunately" is disturbing---the guy's been identified--post 240. link below

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4588572&mesg_id=4589395

Post 208, says she's been injured: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4588572&mesg_id=4589235

[TBF]

118. Stay classy, Rand. nt

[Pollguy]

263. Paul

Classy ain't in his vocab.

[SammyWinstonJack]

122. K&R

[myrna minx]

125. So boot parties are now an official part of the Republican Party - huh.

Private police and boot parties. Stay klassy.

[Mad_Dem_X]

133. This is horrifying!

These maniacs need to start getting charges thrown at them. Seems violence is their ultimate answer to everything.

I hope that woman is going to be all right. :scared:

[itsrobert]

136. Waiting for Anderson Cooper to say "both sides do it"

You know it's coming. AC will dredge up some poor faulty comparison.

[Zambero]

139. Here's one he could throw in...

And one overzealous Conway supporter was actually spotted removing a Rand Paul bumper sticker outside the debate event. Tempers flare, and it's easy to see how things might get out of hand...

[Enthusiast]

242. Yup.

If he is true to form he will say it.

[get the red out]

137. Great, I LIVE in Lexington

So this is what it is coming to? And of course there is still more coverage here about the bar fight after the Kentucky/Georgia game Saturday night, and of course the "Blue-White" basketball game tonight. But someone getting beaten by Republican extremist thugs because they didn't believe she should have the right to speech THEY disagree with? Crickets.........

These bastards screech CONSTITUTION, CONSTITUTION, CONSTITUTION but when it comes to people they disagree with, forget THAT!

[era veteran]

168. Call Chief Ronnie Bastin @ 859 258 3600

LFUCG Police admin #. Did you see the Lexington Metro cop in video? WTF was he doing? I am going to Washington Thursday. Be good to get out of town.

[anachro1]

145. Wow; these people are out to kill.

Howz about we toss out Rand Paul and instead nominate that varmint on his head?

[Roy Rolling]

146. Constitution Check...according to Christine

I have checked the entire constitution and nowhere does it say "do not rip the wig off and refrain from stomping on people's heads."-----Christine O'Donnell

[Tsiyu]

147. So Rand Paul, your supporters are violent thugs

is this footage for your next commercial?

"RAND PAUL - He'll stomp on the hayud of inny uppity wymmins fer you!"



Wifebeaters for Rand Paul!!!!!!! We beat women and children for votes and teabags!

[mstinamotorcity]

149. I am not surprised that violence

has taken place at one of his events. Rand Paul (Ky) is against anything to do with the mere thought of any private business having to serve a person of color,but he thinks racism is abhorrent. He doesn't think it is the Federal Government's position to enforce civil rights on private business owners. This is a Jim Crow Jr. type of attitude with some polish. Which makes me think there is already an element of hatred and discourse. Which doesn't take much to be pushed into violence. Then you have the astro turf part of the tea baggers oh i mean tea party, who would fuel it to the boiling point so they can say MoveOn member started the confrontation. Maybe if everyone asked the media outlet where this story is at you will get what we are getting, low key media mention.

[SocialistLez]

150. I saw this this morning: DISGUSTED!!

I couldn't believe someone would do such a horrible thing. My gosh.

[gulliver]

154. That's vile. Two guys need to be in jail.

No way that isn't assault and battery. A felony was committed.

[AmandaMae]

155. omg this is horrible!

[adigal]

157. We should all go watch it

Get the page views up -

[RKP5637]

159. The emerging gestapo ... n/t

[lonestarnot]

161. More of the same.

[madmax]

162. They keep this shit up and they just might

get their revolution and their asses stomped in the process ala the 60's style.

[avaistheone1]

163. Sue, sue, sue the bastards. All of them.

Sue the bastards that stepped on her head and body. Sue Rand Paul and sue the police for not providing adequate protection.

k&r


:kick:

[RKP5637]

164. These are the terrorists this country should fear! n/t

[amyrose2712]

169. Some people are simply hideous. nt

[Joanne98]

170. So are they going to JAIL?

[Mosaic]

174. When bullys assault

They somehow think they can get away with it. We have to prove to them once and for all that crime does NOT pay.

[Joanne98]

183. I agree! They have to be hunted down and prosecuted!

[pengillian101]

281. Apparently he has apologized, got fired from his campaign duties and banned from attending functions

http://hosted2.ap.org/WTICAM/b7538a1b675b4d059de3e728edc01923/Article_2010-10-26-US-Kentucky-Senate-Scuffle/id-bf43f8ce648549728a96b30b76643132

He should be in jail and have a pay off a huge lawsuit.

[tabbycat31]

176. How to counter this

Sign up for GOTV shifts for your local Democratic candidate NOW.

This is the second such incident I've seen with teabaggers (the first being at a healthcare town hell last year). They must be stopped at the polls and Democrats MUST VOTE!

Go knock on doors and make phone calls for your local Democratic campaign today!

[Cognitive_Resonance]

180. K & R nt

[kestrel91316]

182. Teabaggers = brownshirts. Welcome to Germany, 1930s

[PavePusher]

184. O.K., without the hyperbole....

The video I saw (both MSNBC and Fox), he seemed to be stepping on her shoulder, not stomping on her head.

Regardless, this is assault at the least, and should be persued as such.

In the mean time, it also seemed to be the act of a lone individual, not any sort of conspiracy or organised violence, so some of the rethoric around here is severely out of place.

[jeff47]

196. Um...

A lone individual consisting of 4 different people? There's the stepper, the tackler, and 2 other guys holding her down.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

201. Is there any right-wing stupidity you don't like?

No, don't bother answering. That was rhetorical.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

243. He was attempting to break her neck

I think you really need to watch the video again. Use the gift of sight to look where his foot actually is and count the other people holding her down for her neck to be broken.

[PavePusher]

271. I admit that I was involved in about 3 other real-life things...

when it came across my TV screen. I'll look it up and review with more focus.

[sam sarrha]

285. ..so they go free if one person does what they know is wanted to happen.. there is no outrage from

Nazi's.. so it seems they are happy.

[PavePusher]

291. Ummm.... WTF?

The ability of some people to interpolate nothing I said or implied or intended, is nothing short of seriously crazed.

[sam sarrha]

299. i was saying it wasn't the act of one person..several assaulted her before he nearly crushed her nec...

listen.. as she go's down under several attackers.. one guy says, she is a democrat, call the police.. there has been a rash of violent attacks on people assumed to be democrats.. then when the cops show up they are brutalized and beaten again.. and arrested, people taping the illegal beating and arrest are also arrested..

these attacks are coordinated, they are Conspiracies to commit Mayhem.. i was responding to the comment about it was one guy.. no.. it is way too frequent

[budkin]

188. This is the Tea Party Ladies and Gentlemen!

[jsgindc]

189. He DID step on her head...he stepped on her glasses frame

Notice after he stepped on her glasses, she reaches for her glasses.

[gauguin57]

190. Onward, Christian soldiers.

Disgusting.

[GSLevel9]

194. I'd like to see both arrested... and their computers seized for examination. nt

[JohnWxy]

195. If an arrest for assault is not made, local police will have to be investigated.

This is a clear (& videotaped) assault. An arrest must be made and charges filed.

Nazi storm-trooper techniques cannot be tolerated.

Recommended.

[JohnWxy]

197. Lexington, KY police telephone numbers...link

http://www.lexingtonky.gov/index.aspx?page=119

Chief of Police
Ronnie Bastin - 258-3621, Fax: [phone]

Deputy Chief David Boggs - 258-3621

•Public Information Officer- 425-2006
•Internal Affairs - 258-3625


Lexington KY government question, comment page: http://lexcall.lexingtonky.gov/QuestionsComments.aspx

[harvey007]

198. Agent Provocateur?

I hope the victim can identify the man who assaulted her so that he can be criminally charged or sued.

It's important that he be identified not just for the sake of justice for the victim but to determine if the man was an agent provocateur posing as a Rand Paul supporter.

Stranger things have happened.

[kestrel91316]

261. He's head of the local campaign org. Nice try. Now go back under your bridge.

[texastoast]

199. Oh, don't they love freedom of speech, those teabagger

I hope she's okay, and may Hollywood call her and offer her a movie deal.

[donheld]

200. This is the start of war?

[YankeeLeft7x]

204. Rand Paul & "New GOP" Endorses Such Violence

I guess Rand Paul endorses violence. Certainly his rhetoric encourages this kind of behavior.

This type of actual violence is now common place and promoted by the Republicans and all one has to do is turn on Right-wing Hate Radio to understand it, even better than I can explain.

This new incarnation of right wing Republican extemists if able to do so, would commit many, many more acts of violence such as this as well.

[nolabear]

206. WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD.

[struggle4progress]

208. Woman attacked by Rand Paul supporters has concussion, sprained arm, MoveOn says

... She has told MoveOn officials that she suffered a concussion and sprained shoulder and arm ... Paul's campaign released a statement ... adding: "We are relieved to hear that the woman in question was not injured"
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/

[madmax]

210. What?! not injured?

Concussion, sprained shoulder and arm. Not injured? Must remember we're in the Twilight Zone, repeat 10 times.

[Politicub]

212. Fuck. This is an omen of what the tea party wants to do to all of us

The tea party is a dangerous movement. When will people wake up?

[texastoast]

218. Awake and ready here

And I've found that when you have your facts in order, they pretty much turn tail and slink back under their racist, oppressive rock.

But they like the confrontation.

[Robyn66]

219. Oh no its better for people to stay home and not vote (nt)

:nuke:

[Hubert Flottz]

213. The Storm Troopers are HERE!

[RoccoR5955]

214. They all hate freedom of speech

They wipe their bottoms with the US Constitution. They are not patriots, THEY ARE ENEMIES!

[ProfessionalLeftist]

220. And police are questioning HER? Why?

It wasn't HER foot I saw come down on someone's head.

[txaslftist]

224. trying to break through security people and approach a candidate maybe?

Just my thought.

[ProfessionalLeftist]

248. Why not also question the thug who stomped her head?

He was the one becoming violent, not her.

Unless you believe she 'deserved' that?

[txaslftist]

257. I think he was out of line.

But I also think she was looking for a confrontation.

[kestrel91316]

262. Of course YOU would think that. Don't think your views aren't noticed.

[fascisthunter]

297. heh???? So she should be scared and not attempt to exercise her rights?

disgusting

[alfredo]

221. A photo of the thug.

[d_b]

222. Where's Roger Huerta when you need him?

[txaslftist]

223. So an unknown woman wearing a wig tries to break

through volunteer security surrounding Rand Paul, knowing that these people are paranoids who think that the CIA wants to assassinate both Rand and Ron Paul and keep them from saving Amurka, they discover she's wearing a wig and throw her to the ground and call for the police.

It's on the audio, they are all saying "get the police," "get the police"...

One of the "thugs" holds her down with a foot while she tries to get up. Another "thug" says to him "hold on, that's enough" or words to that effect...

And this is jackbooted thuggery equivalent to stormtroopers rounding up dissidents and gassing them?!?

Well, it's election season.

[pjt7]

228. I don't get why she was wearing a wig

but anyway.. at least she didn't get severly hurt


Shouldn't Wikikleaks be DU Undergrounds headline story?

We have the first FACTS of the Iraq war available & with enough media attention this could lead to cutting back our military-industrial complex, which hold all American Taxpayers hostage.

Let alone the endless cycle of violence.

[txaslftist]

231. Shut UP!!!!

You can't talk about the WAR?!!?

This is much more important./s

And in case you haven't been paying attention, my dear friend, the Democrats running for election have no interest in cutting back our military industrial complex. If they did, we'd be hearing about it. Instead we are hearing about everything BUT that.

Much love, to a kindred spirit.

[fifthoffive]

238. No, it's not the same as gassing dissidents

But you cannot blame the victim for the paranoia of the perpetrators. A wig is not a weapon.

She did end up with a concussion and a sprained arm. The perpetrators used more force than necessary if all they wanted to do was restrain her.

1) The female Rand supporter deliberately stepped on the victim after she was down. 2) One of the men put his foot on the victim's neck and shoulder and pushed her forcibly into the pavement, also after she was already down and being restrained.

Even IF there was some distorted reasoning that led to the initial action which ended with the victim on her side on the pavement being held down by one or two much larger men, the two acts above occurred well after the victim had been restrained, and are simply assault.

[txaslftist]

249. Sure you can blame her.

She knew dang well who they were and probably had a good idea how they would react.

Activism carries risk, and what she intended was clearly provocative.

Why wear a wig? Why try the confrontation in the middle of the candidate's moving from one spot to another and not when he's settled and addressing an audience? The people there had no idea who she was or why she was in disguise or why she was trying to break through to the candidate.

If you actually listen to the audio, there are several of them calling for the police.

It's ridiculous to assume they "hate free speech" or that they're "jack booted tenny-wearing thugs" because they stopped her and held her for the cops.

From what I saw, one asshole stomped on her, while other people were telling him to lay off.

But they're all "thugs" and "goons" and "fascists", right? Because of course, they aren't democrats or liberals, so they must be fascists, right?

What a load.

[LanternWaste]

273. No more nor no less than we can blame the same...

"Sure you can blame her..."

No more nor no less than we can blame the same on any citizen who wishes to go to a political rally.

"The people there had no idea who she was..." Well, there seems to be your story (weren't there, right?) and her story (she was there, right?) "she claims her assailant recognized her as a regular anti-Paul protester and pre-meditated the attack...."
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-stomping-victim-says-assailants-recognized-her-premeditated-attack.php?ref=fpblg


Loads and loads, yes. Not from the direction you may be implying though.

[kestrel91316]

264. RW talking points and RW apologists such as yourself are not what DUers

are here for. Crawl back under your bridge.

[bergie321]

268. Teabaggers

Come to Obama rallies strapped with assault rifles. She was wearing a wig and got stomped. Why is this idiot allowed to post on here?

[begin_within]

225. Right-wingers defending this act:

"She went there to cause trouble, and she got it."

[Name removed]

233. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[begin_within]

237. She went there looking to be injured? So that justifies them injuring her?

[txaslftist]

244. She went there to embarrass and confront the candidate.

Getting injured helps her cause a lot more than presenting her silly award would have.

[fascisthunter]

298. "silly" award? You think that's what she was doing?

you assume the negative... why?

[Politicub]

256. To this day Hitler still has his apologists

Yes, I said Hitler. Suck on it, teabaggers.

[tjwash]

227. They've been pulling this shit at klan rallies for over a century now.

Don't know if it is good, bad or sad, but now that they are focusing their vitriol on other white folks...people are finally starting to take notice.

[Fredfon]

240. How do we not know their names yet?

I know that if someone acted in such a manner that was on MY side, I would rat them out in a second. If not detain them until the police arrived.
These teabaggers are bullies and scum-- EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ONE OF THEM!!

Sending ten bucks I can't afford to www.moveon.org

[vaberella]

253. Check out the post right below yours. Names mentioned. n/t

[Fredfon]

276. Took a while-but one of the tea baggers did step up.

Laura Graas is a teapartier who actually went through a bit of effort to figure out who it was.
I still do think it unfortunate that they were not called out ON THE SPOT. But Ms Grass did step up.
Thank You Laura.

[concreteblue]

241. Stomper was Paul Campaign Staffer...

LEXINGTON, Ky. — A Rand Paul supporter is apologizing after he was seen on video stepping on a liberal activist's head.

Tim Profitt, a volunteer with the Republican's U.S. Senate campaign, told The Associated Press on Tuesday that the camera angle made the scuffle Monday night appear worse that it was. He criticized police for not stepping in and says other supporters warned authorities about the activist.

Lauren Valle, a 23-year-old with the group MoveOn.org, was wrestled to the ground by Paul supporters when she tried to confront the tea party favorite with a fake award. Valle said Tuesday she was sore and swollen.

The Paul campaign cut ties with Profitt, removing him from his role as Bourbon County campaign coordinator and banning him from campaign events.

Guess the police will be arresting him soon?

[pjt7]

245. The facts of Wikileaks

Iraq needs this Nations attention.

But we are all being intentionally mis-lead byBOTH sides.

[vaberella]

252. "Camera Angle...:" WTF?! There was no camera angle.

He stepped on her head. I want charges pressed and prison.

[ProudDad]

258. "Guess the police will be arresting him soon?"

Gee, what are the odds. :eyes:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4581046

Moveon is planning one of these here in town at john mcshame's office -- presenting the award to jesse kelley (R-bat-crap-crazy) and the "rocket scientist" with a bachelor's degree ruth mcclung (R-clueless liar -- running against Raul Grijalva)...

-----------------------------------------

Ruth McClung is "Honored" by RepubliCorp

In Front of John McCain's campaign office at Grant & Country Club
26 Oct , 07:00 PM
McCain Headquarters (Grant & Country Club) 26 Oct , 05:00 PM RepubliCorp will endorse its purchased candidates (Jesse Kelly & Ruth McClung) at the campaign office of their "benefactor" Senator John McCain. Reception at Ruth McClung's Golden Corral Town Hall to follow. RepubliCorp will announce Ruth McClung's 2010 RepubliCorp AZ CD-7 endorsement for putting profits over people in almost all her campaign positions.

The event details are:

Ruth McClung is "Honored" by RepubliCorp
In Front of John McCain's campaign office at Grant & Country Club
6385 S. Midvale Park
Tucson, AZ 85746
Tuesday, 26 Oct 2010, 7:00 PM

To sign up for this event, click here:
http://pol.moveon.org/event/republicorp/110048

[Celtic Raven]

260. Here's a link to TPM

Edited for more room after the link. CR

____________________________________________

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/10/kentucky-stomper-identified-as-pauls-now-former-bourbon-county-coordinator.php

Kentucky Stomper Identified As Paul's (Now Former) Bourbon County Coordinator
Brian Beutler | October 26, 2010, 3:29PM


The Rand Paul campaign has just severed ties with their Bourbon County coordinator -- a man by the name of Tim Profitt -- who has identified himself as the supporter who stomped on the head and neck of a MoveOn activist outside of the Senate debate in Lexington, KY last night, according to Fox News.

Profitt apologized for the scuffle to the Associated Press this afternoon, and apparently told them that the camera angle made the incident appear worse than it really was.

The Kentucky blog "barefoot and progressive" was the first to identify Profitt as the likely assailant in a series of posts today.

More at link.

[burnsei sensei]

247. The nature of the award explains the

reason for the incident.
She was pointing out the connection between soul-less corporate America and this candidate.
The information, if anyone had chosen to follow it up, would have been damaging to Paul.
They subdued her brutally.

[ProudDad]

275. And proved her point! (n/t)

[ProudDad]

259. RepubliCorp action planned for Tucson TODAY

Ruth McClung is "Honored" by RepubliCorp

In Front of John McCain's campaign office at Grant & Country Club
26 Oct , 07:00 PM
McCain Headquarters (Grant & Country Club) 26 Oct , 05:00 PM RepubliCorp will endorse its purchased candidates (Jesse Kelly & Ruth McClung) at the campaign office of their "benefactor" Senator John McCain. Reception at Ruth McClung's Golden Corral Town Hall to follow. RepubliCorp will announce Ruth McClung's 2010 RepubliCorp AZ CD-7 endorsement for putting profits over people in almost all her campaign positions.

The event details are:

Ruth McClung is "Honored" by RepubliCorp
In Front of John McCain's campaign office at Grant & Country Club
6385 S. Midvale Park
Tucson, AZ 85746
Tuesday, 26 Oct 2010, 7:00 PM

To sign up for this event, click here:
http://pol.moveon.org/event/republicorp/110048

[PBass]

265. The guy who tackled her has his hand on her boob...

while she's on the ground.

Looks like he's groping her.

This pic is up at Talking Points memo dot com:

[vaberella]

278. Holy Shit!! Are you kidding me?! He IS groping her. What the fuck?!

Fuckin' Pervert!!! This needs it's own thread dude.

[Name removed]

266. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[ProudDad]

274. Legally -- it's assault... (n/t)

[armodem08]

269. Okay, here's my question:

On the Youtube version of the video, without the local news broadcast, (which I saw first at DailyKos) at about 6-7 seconds out of 33, it looks like there's a cop already there. After Rand gets out of his SUV, he walks over the curb, and on his right is a man in what looks like a local police/state trooper uniform. What the hell was he doing?! The actual stomping happened within 15 seconds after that.

[PBass]

272. The police can't be everywhere...

and I don't know that we would want them to be.

The only person responsible for stomping this woman is the guy who did it. That will probably be glossed over, as "taking personal responsibility" is a phony conservative tenet, just like "Family Values" "Domestic Security" and "less government spending".

(Short answer: the cop was probably looking at Rand Paul, and not the perimeter activities)

[armodem08]

277. Definitely.

And let's not forget that more than one person was involved. The guy who threw her down may have caused her to hit her head, and may have even groped her in the process (according to the video screenshots I've seen).

I just want to make sure no cops turned a blind eye to what would have been pretty obvious, what with all the people yelling "get the cops!" But the cop on the video probably just followed Paul into the event.

[proReality]

283. What makes me just as sick...

...is that nobody in the crowd did anything to stop them.

[sam sarrha]

284. ReThuglicans have been Exposed for what they really are, they're in a corner and Very Dangerous..

[snailly]

286. This incident is really disturbing

This woman was exercising her right to free speech and she has these thugs tackle her to the ground and assault her.
All this while valiantly defending the Constitution and wearing "Don't tread on me" pins. What utter pieces of shit.

I don't care what candidate, movement, proposition, amendment anyone is in favor of or against. Our society will collapse if freedom of speech is not honored in everyday discourse however unpleasant to the opposition.

[defendandprotect]

287. And STOMPER turns out to be Rand Paul Campaign Coordinator --- !!!!!

He should have been arrested!!!

[Beacool]

288. Wow, just wow!!!

Political discourse is one thing, but crossing the line by becoming violent is just wrong. I'm glad that the woman was not severely injured. The guy is just a thug and didn't not help his candidate's cause.

x(

[zinnisking]

289. C O W A R D! Someone with a psych degree please explain

to me why it is that people who publicly project a tough-guy persona are the most cowardly people on earth.

My friend was shot in the head while he was unarmed two months ago by a little man who boasted about how he was a Black-Belt. Most pro-war politicians seem to be a bit squeamish about actual combat. And they all seem to be drawn to the Republica Party. Why?

[LawnKorn]

293. Tea Party - The Sole of American Politics

[kestrel91316]

296. .