Alan Keyes Ordered to Pay President Obama's Court Costs

[kpete]

Source: Daily Kos

Alan Keyes Ordered to Pay President Obama's Court Costs
by Pluto
Tue Oct 26, 2010 at 11:11:22 AM PDT

A state appellate court in Sacramento threw out a lawsuit claiming President Barack Obama is not eligible to occupy the White House because he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States. The court ordered the plaintiffs to pay all court fees of the defendents.

The lawsuit was filed shortly after the 2008 general election. The leading plaintiff (of three) was Alan Keyes, a former member of President Ronald Reagan's administration from Maryland, and the 2008 American Independent Party candidate for president.

Keyes is a member of the so-called "birthers" movement. In his complaint, he claimed there is persuasive evidence Obama was born in what is now Kenya, which was then (1961) the British East African Protectorate of Zanzibar. He further claimed that President Obama would have automatically been a British citizen, based on his father's citizenship, and ineligible for office.


Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/10/26/913751/-Alan-Keyes-Ordered-to-Pay-President-Obamas-Court-Costs

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DISPOSITION

The judgment is affirmed. Plaintiffs shall reimburse defendants for their costs on appeal. (Cal. Rules of Court, rule 8.278(a)(1).)

We concur:

SIMS, J.
ROBIE, J.

THE DECISION:
http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=In%20CACO%2020101025033.xml&docbase=CSLWAR3-2007-CURR

more (coming right now):
http://www.ballot-access.org/2010/10/26/california-court-of-appeals-issues-important-ruling-about-presidential-candidate-ballot-access/
The three sued Obama, Vice President Joe Biden, California’s 55 presidential electors from 2008 and Secretary of State Debra Bowen days after Obama’s election in November 2008. They sought to bar Bowen from certifying the names of the electors until Obama produced documentary proof that he was qualified to serve as president, and to impose a similar requirement in future elections.
http://www.metnews.com/articles/2010/keye102610.htm
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/10/26/3131570/california-court-throws-out-lawsuit.html

[rurallib]

1. Good - I hope its a huge bill.

[treestar]

56. One instance where we can root for a high lawyers' fee!

[Joe Bacon]

66. Fact is, enough suckers will open their wallets to pay Keyes fees.

There are enough idiots suckered by the birther bullshit (including my family) who will open their wallets to cover Keyes' fees! And no doubt, Keyes will make a nice profit off of them as he always does!

[XemaSab]

88. Probably the only time any of them have ever

given a buck to a brother. :P

[happyslug]

93. The Decision says "Court Costs" NOT Attorney's Fees, those are two different subjects

Court cost are the fees paid to the COURT, not the fees paid to attorneys. I do NOT know what fees the Defendants (Obame et al) had to pay but I suspect nothing since they are the DEFENDANTS and it is the PLAINTIFFs who pay any filing fees.

[Tarheel_Dem]

2. Not to worry, the Koch Bros. will pick up the tab. Why won't Keyes just go away? (nt)

[jobycom]

9. Why would he go away when the Koch Brothers will just pick up his bill?

Not like he's going to get rich being an honest man.

[mopinko]

46. hey, well, at least he left illinois after threatening to stay

no matter how the election came out.

[SKKY]

90. Keyes won't go away for the same reason Sharpton or Jackson...

...won't go away. It's like that Demotivational Poster, "If you can't be part of the solution, there's good money to be made in prolonging the problem."

[bluerum]

3. Keyes - what piece of work

[DeadEyeDyck]

58. looney tunes

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

4. Keyes, another bootlicking Uncle Tom

[BolivarianHero]

39. To be fair...

Any African-Americans and Hispanics who support cannabis prohibition can also be viewed as such.

[TheDebbieDee]

50. You insult self-hating, African-American, bootlicking Uncle Toms everywhere

when you refer to Keyes as one!

[knixphan]

64. lol!!!

[Kingofalldems]

5. Yeah....Yeah!!

[Kolesar]

6. Didn't goggle-eyed Keyes run against Barack Obama after Senator Ryan withdrew?

Somebody holds a grudge

[Oldtimeralso]

29. Yep

You are absotivly and posilutly correct!

[mikekohr]

33. Yes and the damn fool still got 28% of the vote which proves 1 in 4 voters are nuts

I bet all 28% are Tea Partiers today.

[madmax]

53. Frightening isn't it? nt

[KDLarsen]

78. Want something even more frightening?

Look at how many votes Orly Taitz scraped home in the Calfornian Sec of State Republican primary, considering her only campaign promise was to deny Obama a place on the list of candidates.

[zbdent]

86. and they supported George W. Bush 110 percent

and refuse to admit it now ... claiming they were "independent" ...

[dotymed]

89. The "people" I have asked in TN

think Bush was a better President than President Obama..................Really!

[napi21]

7. GOOD! It's about time these frivilous case filers have to pay

a price for their foolishness!

[sinkingfeeling]

8. Excellent!!

[sakabatou]

10. Hey Keyes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAYfIzQpja0&feature=related

[dballance]

11. Remove Please

I can't find it if there is.

[Bitwit1234]

12. I think Keyes has run in every election in the United States

as we all know he LOST.

[TlalocW]

13. And now Keyes will go on television

And announce in his Marvin the Martian voice that he is, "verrrrrrry angry. Very angry indeed."

TlalocW

[brooklynite]

14. Will Keyes be appealing the judgement? I can suggest a good lawyer...

[appal_jack]

21. O RLY?!?!

Obligatory Orly Taitz / Oily Taint / O RLY? T'aint humor...

-app

[rpannier]

34. She might not be available

I mean, as a professional Dentist, Lawyer and REal Estate agent she's gotta be pretty busy -- OH and frivilous lawsuit filer

[Lasher]

62. She probably needs the money because she had to pay that $20,000 fine that she said she wouldn't pay

Maybe she could make money by threatening to endorse GOP candidates if they don't pay up.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. Oh just fucking great.

Now he'll have to run for president again to raise the money. :evilgrin:

[polmaven]

16. Never thought about that...

The (R) running against my Congressman has file suit asking the court to order that the Congressman stop airing a TV ad that picks on him. It's being heard tomorrow, and most believe it will be dismissed. I hope the judge orders "The Kook" to pay the Congressman's legal fees.

[JI7]

17. HAHAHHAHA

GOOD

[thereismore]

18. Yeah, sue the hell out of CA electors, hahaha! nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

19. Crazy Muthafuckas!!!! n/t

[CatWoman]

20. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:rofl:

[Initech]

22. Obama - 1, birthers - nothing!

[Scurrilous]

23. ROFL

:thumbsup:

[tjwash]

24. ...

[Capitalocracy]

25. And the Zanzibarbarian pulls another fast one

Chicago thug politics all the way. Making a good patriotic American pay for presenting a lawsuit that's just too important for "facts" and "evidence"

[Iggo]

70. -

:spray:

[GodlessBiker]

26. Poor Keyes. If he had just waited a few years, compared to Rethug candidates today, he would have

sounded moderate.

[bigdaddycoles66]

27. How DUMB is Alan? Another idiot in the bathroom when

God was handing out brains. I hope the court fees are ridiculously high. Ignorance is not an excuse.

[4lbs]

28. The birthers still don't realize that for Obama to have been born in Kenya, that means his mother

would have also had to have been there.

Yet, US Customs has no record of her re-entry into the US from Africa.

Why is that? Probably because Obama's mother HAS NEVER BEEN TO AFRICA. In fact, from January 1961 to December 1961, she never even left Hawaii, since all student and work records show her being in Hawaii nearly that entire year. Obama was born in August 1961.

So, how could Obama have been born in Kenya when his mother's never been to that continent, and she never left Hawaii for nearly all of 1961? I don't think medical technology has advanced to the point where a baby can be born in one place and his/her mother be in another place.

[rpannier]

35. Immaculate Birth

She gave birth in Hawaii, but the baby came out in Kenya
God works in mysterious ways

[jeff47]

37. Actually, there's a much simpler reason

"He's a citizen because Hawaii says so".

One of the whole points of the federal system is that some activities are delegated to the states. Such as birth and death records. Hawaii says he was born there. They're the ultimate arbiters of who is born in Hawaii.

Now, if these damn 10thers would be remotely consistent in their beliefs, there would be no birthers. But we all know how consistent the crazies are.

[LuckyLib]

41. Oh, those are just the usual "leftist" details!

B-)

[npk]

61. Damn left wing media

They always trying to hide an elaborate conspiracy from all those simple minded conservatives who know Obama is a foreigner based on his funny sounding name and color of his skin. They just can't get the facts to line up in their favor.

[KDLarsen]

79. This is what annoys me the most as well

Being an airplane (and all things associated) nut, I can't remember how often I've told some Birther just how difficult it would be to get from Hawaii to Kenya in 1961. Just the tickets alone cost more than the annual income of the average american, so how the hell could two students afford it? And then of course there's the fact that in order to go to Kenya in the first place, Stanley Ann would have had to have vaccines - at least one of which (I forget which one) simply wasn't given to pregant women.

[4lbs]

94. Oooh, I did not know that. Thanks for the info!

I did some looking up and I think it's the MMR vaccine that can't be given to pregnant women. That's the combo "mumps-measles-rubella" vaccine.

More specifically, it's the "measles" part of the vaccine that is problematic for pregnant women. So a vaccine that is measles only is also not allowed for pregnant women.

[KDLarsen]

97. Just found the article again, it was Yellow fever

It also lists some other common sense reason why Ann Dunham couldn't have gone to Kenya in 1961: http://newyorkleftist.blogspot.com/2010/03/obama-born-in-kenya-no.html

[4lbs]

98. That's a great article. It lays out in detail how it was impossible for Barack Obama's mother to

have been in Kenya at the time of his birth.

[barbtries]

30. good

:rofl:

[walldude]

31. ..

[jaysunb]

32. Keep your dumb shit out of Cali

we already have enough of our own. :rofl:

[katty]

36. sweet justice! pay up idiot

[Cram]

38. Alan Keyes Ordered to Pay President Obama's Court Costs

Why do Birthers simply ignore the mother?  
A child born in a foreign country with one 
U.S. citizen parent is entitled to American citizenship. 

[KDLarsen]

80. Much as I'd hate to say it, he wouldn't have been

The rules in place in 1961 stated, that if only one of the parents was a US citizen, he or she would have had to have resided in the US for at least 5 years after his/her 14th birthday. Stanley Ann Dunham hadn't turned 19 yet, so technically she couldn't pass US citizenship.

Of course, the point is moot since Obama was born in Hawaii, but it has given rise to some interesting legal discussions.

[defendandprotect]

40. Good ... !!

[jberryhill]

42. The "costs" are the court costs of the defendant - Debra Bowen CA Secy State

Which is probably a couple hundred dollars.

Us evil lawyer types use "costs" and "fees" to refer to two different things.

"Costs" are the filing and whatever procedural fees there are. "Fees" are what gets paid to the lawyers.

You can guess where the big bucks are.

[Canuckistanian]

43. Hmmm, "Keyes" and "Kenya"

Coincidence? i think NOT.

[NBachers]

72. Take away the K's and you have "eyes enya!"

By Jove you're onto something!

eyes enya backwards is ayne seye- "Anyone can see!"

turn me on k man

[Canuckistanian]

76. I see what you mean about the eyes

[Kurovski]

96. !

:D

I never realised how truly handsome he is.

[groundloop]

44. Just refuses to go away doesn't he?

[SalmonChantedEvening]

45. Yabba Dabba! :)

K&R!!! :bounce:

[Vogon_Glory]

47. Good!

Good!

It's about time that the people who come up with these right-wing nuisance suits are forced to pay up! I hope that the court costs dig a big hole in Keyes' pocket!

[sam sarrha]

48. Allen Keys is another nut case the GOP takes off their medication and puts in front of a camera.. he

is TOTALLY INSANE... really i do not jest, Keys is totally delusional... watch his eyes

Obama was born on a US Military Base... that is why his Birth Cert looks different, they don't issue a long form it is a simple square piece of paper.. looks just like my wife's BC.. also born on a Base.

[mr1956]

55. He was born at Kapiolani Women's and Children Hospital

Not a military base. You may have his circumstances confused with McCain's. His birth certificate is the same as issued to every Hawaii citizen who requests it from the Office of Vital Statistics.

edited for spelling

[cstanleytech]

49. A better header for it would have been "Nutjob ordered to pay President Obama's Court Costs"

[progressoid]

51. Bwaaaaaa!

[Optimistic]

52. Alan Keyes More Racists against Blacks than the KKK

He hates Black People and Hates America, He is a Very dangerous threat to the United states, I would trust Osama Bin Laden more

[Psephos]

54. Glad to hear that psycho lost, but Daily Kos is not a valid news source for LBN.

Rules is rules. :)

[dflprincess]

57. I know others on the thread have said this, but I can't resist

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

:bounce:

[DeadEyeDyck]

59. Hope his cameo on Barak pays for it

[AlbertCat]

60. Gee... being a loony tunes opportunist can get expensive.

He, Orly, and anyone else involved should be made to wear dunce caps for the next 2 years as well.

[HuckleB]

63. AWESOME!!!!!!!!

[orbitalman]

65. The 'Ass Wipes' n/t

[woo me with science]

67. Bwahahahahahahaha! nt

[Iggo]

68. LOL...BURN!!!

:rofl:

[lonestarnot]

69. Guess he better learn what the minimum wage is.

:rofl:

[DesertFlower]

71. great news. nt

[Shining Jack]

73. K&R

Good. :evilgrin:

[mvd]

74. K&R - that's great

[zenprole]

75. Mr. Koch's Tab

Keyes will be bailed out by the billionaire right, who's funded him all along, but this is still fun news.

Alan Keyes now has plenty of competition, but he's the original batshit crazy conservative of the last generation. Doonesbury chronicled his shtick better than the NYT.

[autorank]

77. One pissed off judge k*r

Finally, someone has to pay court costs! That's harsh and Keyes deserves it. Just shows that you can't run around and use the courts to say crazy shit! About time.

[rasputin1952]

81. Why are these people so impossibly stupid?

some of the comments, 'On to the higher court', just amaze me. We need to lcean up the gene pool...:eyes:

[aquart]

82. Tee hee.

[SpiralHawk]

83. Republicon stupidity goes on and on and on

Sheesh. Stop wasting America's time and energy, Republicons.

Go away to your own fact-free fascist Homeland somewhere.

[LawnKorn]

84. Pay Baby Pay!

[LawnKorn]

85. K&R

[Ganja Ninja]

87. HA! HA!

[zehnkatzen]

91. The man's an embarrassment to his race ... the human race. k/r n/t

[Kingofalldems]

92. Kick this for the sneaky freepers

[kenfrequed]

95. I'd also like

These guys to have to pay for commercials where they state unequivacally that they were wrong and that they were sorry for wasting public time, attention, and money on misinforming the American people.

The amount of time should equal the total televised time that has been spent by any tea-haddist or right wing nut job that has managed to crawl in front of a camera to date.

[Taverner]

99. Love. It.