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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:52 AM
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Tea party antics could end up burning Republicans
Source: Washington Post

The tea party's volatile influence on this election year appears to be doing more harm than good for Republicans' chances in some of the closest races in the nation, in which little-known candidates who upset the establishment with primary wins are now stumbling in the campaign's final days. In Kentucky, a volunteer for tea-party-backed Senate candidate Rand Paul was videotaped stepping on the head of a liberal protester. In Delaware and Colorado, Senate hopefuls Christine O'Donnell and Ken Buck, respectively, are under fire for denying that the First Amendment's establishment clause dictates a separation of church and state. In Nevada, GOP Senate nominee Sharron Angle is drawing rebuke for running TV ads that portray Latino immigrants as criminals and gang members.

Perhaps the most dramatic tea party problems are in Alaska, where Republican Senate candidate Joe Miller is suffering another round of unfavorable headlines after it was revealed late Tuesday that he had admitted lying about his misconduct while working as a government lawyer in Fairbanks. Miller was conducting his own poll in 2008 in an effort to oust a state GOP chairman, and he used his colleagues' computers to vote in the survey, then erased their computers' caches to try to hide what he had done.

"I was beyond stupid," he wrote in a letter of apology included in documents ordered released by a judge Tuesday. He was suspended for three days without pay, according to the documents. Miller, who was considered a shoo-in just two months ago when he defeated Sen. Lisa Murkowski in the Republican primary, was already falling quickly in GOP and Democratic internal polls before Tuesday's revelations, strategists said. Last week, he was in the spotlight when a campaign-paid security guard handcuffed a reporter who tried to ask Miller a question.

Such moments are giving Democrats hope that the few undecided voters who remain may become turned off and move away from Republicans in the closer races nationwide, including those in Colorado, Nevada and Kentucky. "In state after state, Republicans nominated a less viable general-election candidate, and that's more on display than ever in these final days of the campaign," said Eric Schultz, a spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/27/AR2010102707428.html
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:03 AM
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1. Time to start the butt covering, eh? nt
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 09:03 AM by bemildred
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:16 AM
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8. It serves multiple functions
It is the republicans effort to manage the expectation game. Unless they steal a bunch of elections to garauntee control of both the Senate and House, people are going to deny that there is anything resembling a mandate and in two years backed by a president, Republicans are going to be reflushed.

They also have a vested interest in scapegoating the tea party people, at least immediately following the elections, while they try to build up a more loyal and standardized following. To them the religious right is a far more reliable and less demanding lot in terms of poll workers and foot soldiers. Tea party libertarians can get upset and take a walk.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:16 PM
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13. Well, 2012 is indeed going to be an interesting year.
I don't disagree with anything you say, but I was thinking more of the need to bring predictions more in line with the actual outcome, so as not to lose ones credibility as a predicter and/or news source.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:14 PM
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21. Yes.
That is also a very good point. Rasmussen in particular has a pattern of doing this year after year after year. Early polling creates the illusion of a big seismic political shift that they then try to use to justify swining the country and lending the idea of forward inertia to a campaign that should look less viable.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:33 PM
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16. They will pay heavily if they turn on the baggers.
Those people are sick. Repugs made their beds, and the tea-totalitarians will set them on fire.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:17 PM
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38. They WON'T turn on the baggers. They will turn on the SCAPEGOAT - Obama.


The GOP is still set to take over the House and they don't care if they can't convict in the Senate, they will still impeach Obama in the House (i.e., indict, as they did to Clinton) and the next two years are going to be a zoo. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING is going to get done in the next two years. And then they will say in 2012, see? He's not getting anything done. Better vote for Palin and the GOP.

The next two years are going to be full of horrors. There will be more environmental disasters too, and this time there will be much less done because the GOP will have more power. There will be no multi-billion dollar fund set up by the next oil company that spills and screws up.

Congress will pass a resolution declaring that global warming is a myth, evolution is a theory and the world is flat.


We are entering the dark ages. But the world is going to hell in the meantime.






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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:39 PM
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46. don't forget all of the rather scary "ballot or bullet" nonsense they are spewing
I'd like to think it's just hyperbole, but between that and the reports of the right trying to simultaneously scare people about fraud and also trying to deny minorities the right to vote, I have a feeling that things could get a bit unhinged if they don't win like they think they will. And frankly I am not convinced they will win as much as they think, so expect to hear lots of complaining about fraud. And hopefully nothing else.
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 09:59 AM
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53. Err..
Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 10:00 AM by kenfrequed
For this movement to have ascapegoat would be someone from their movement.

The GOP is by no means garaunteed to take over the House even if there is a slight trend that direction. Most of the races that they are considering shoe-ins are too close and, barring electronic election fraud, they will lose them.

The Gop will not take over the Senate and will actually lose the expectation game. They will have to explain this somehow and there were so many of the wild and crazy tea party candidates that are going down in flames, they will obviously point to them as part of the problem. The Tea Partty was a stop gap and a temporary way to steal the public spotlight while slowing down any progressive legislation. It will be business as usual after this election.

A fair number of the seats that they are taking were occupied by blue dogs who would not vote along party lines in any case. The remaining Dem's are less likely to 'get along' just for the sake of getting along, particularly after four years of the most obstructionist minority party in American history.

In summation. Spare the gloom and doom and get yer ass out there and vote.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 03:32 PM
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30. I think you've got it exactly right. nt
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:16 PM
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22. And the narrative begins to turn...
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:14 AM
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2. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" award
Not that I'm complaining...

:evilgrin:
rocktivity
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:22 AM
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3. GOTFV, GOTFV, GOTFV......
What will you do to make this happen?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:27 AM
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49. I converted a Repub neighbor to liberalism.
I shit you not.

But i can't get her to re-register (she had moved) to vote, going on a year now.

So it's all a failure.

I'm praying to Lord Jesus Christ. That will help, right?
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:28 AM
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4. "Beyond stupid" = "unprincipled"
What a scumbag.
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:07 PM
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20. Interesting how he presents deceitfulness as a matter of "bad judgment."

"Hey, of course I'm sorry. I got caught."
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:53 PM
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28. Which, though similiar, is not quite the same as
"Hey, of course I'm sorry I got caught."

Which I think is closer to the truth.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:55 AM
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5. Are you saying that Nate and the numbers and polling
failed to predict the Rand Paul thugs and the Miller scandal? How could that be? Is politics more than statistics? Wow, who knew?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:48 PM
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17. Neither Silver OR Cook claim to be "oracles". They take CURRENT.....
......stats and go by that. Nobody can predict beyond right now whether a candidate will flush him or herself down the shitter by either doing something stupid or something stupid coming out of their past. Silver & Cook are probably the two most accurate in elections. With these tea party candidates they are loose cannons and are in that respect somewhat unpredictable.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:35 AM
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6. Yay! Even the WaPo can no longer choose to ignore it.
File under "things you'll never see on Faux."
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DallasNE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:00 AM
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7. Keep In Mind That Joe Miller
Was working as then Gov. Sarah Palin's insider in the failed attempt to oust the Republican Party Chairman from office. That doesn't mean that Palin was fully aware of what Miller was doing but there is some rub-off on her in this because they were working together so closely.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:49 PM
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27. Palin "fully aware?" That's a LOL concept right there.
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elmerdem Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:21 AM
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9. I've been canvasing in KY
& Rand has the core crazy vote, but in my canvasing an overwhelming number of independents & undecideds appear to be breaking for Conway. It is still an uphill climb, but canvasing has made me more hopeful.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:13 PM
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12. God bless you, and thanks for the good fight
Your post gives me some hope. Rand Paul has looked like the most formidable Teabagger, and it would be great to see him go down.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:04 PM
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42. Angle scares me more than Paul
Hard to believe there are that many stupid people in Nevada... but then I remember how many of them are in and around Las Vegas.

shudderingly,
Bright
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 09:16 PM
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43. Yes, noted
Frightening indeed.
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bigdaddycoles66 Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 08:30 PM
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41. Keep up the good work!
Remember also Rand Paul wants to repeal the civil rights act to give business owner the right to refuse service to anyone of minority status. It looks like that will include democrats also. I voted with an early ballot today. Please get out and vote. Do not think that your vote doesn't matter. It does. If you don't, your life and as well as America will change to right wing rule. The republicans are arresting, stomping and taking away our civil liberties right in front of our eyes. It is on video! There is no denying what is to come. If you vote for republicans you will reap what you sow.
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MississippiDemocratX Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:37 AM
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10. Tea Party candidate backs Democrat Gene Taylor for Congress
The Tea Party news a'int all bad for us. ;)

BILOXI, MS (WLOX) - Democrat Gene Taylor picked up an unexpected endorsement Tuesday in his fight to win re-election as Mississippi's 4th District congressman. Joe Tegerdine, the Tea Party candidate who ran against Steven Palazzo in the Republican primary, threw his support behind Taylor.

In the statement to the media, Tegerdine said, "I did not make this decision because I agree with all of his positions on the issues. I made this decision based on his record of integrity and willingness to be forthright with the people in our district."

http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=13393343
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:34 PM
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34. Hey, welcome to DU!
The Tegerdine endorsement is a strange one. Not sure if it helps or hurts.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 06:17 PM
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40. That's amazing...
...thanks for sharing and welcome to DU!

It is one of the enduring fascinations of politics, the shifting sands as candidates and parties and voters group and regroup.

It sounds like this Tegerdine person is more old-school, where you could acknowledge some differences of opinion but still admit that the other person has integrity and good faith.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:01 PM
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11. Not sure I buy that. They could end up with 8 or so teabaggers in the Senate:
Toomey, Angle, Buck, Rubio, Miller, Paul, Raese, DeMint (Incumbent) if we don't get out the vote. I don't see how they would be unhappy with that. Six years is a long time with that many maniacs in the Senate. They could screw up a lot of legislation by blocking everything and anything.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:29 AM
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50. No Miller. that's fairly certain.
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:19 PM
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14. Good news, I pray it will hold on election day. GOTV !!!!!
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:20 PM
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15. Article ignores how they
all runaway from the press to avoid answering to the point questions. That clip of witchy woman snapping her fingers and poking her make-up person, stylist or PR person to deal w/ an uncomfortable question, during a radio interview, is really priceless.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:55 PM
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18. This was in the COMMENTS section:
Valle, 23, said she was attempting to present Rand Paul with an 'employee of the month' award from Republicorp. The award was bogus, and there is no Republicorp. It was a setup.

Dumb shit.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:07 PM
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32. Humorless bastards, ain't they?
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99th_Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 12:55 PM
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19. I LOVE it when reality trumps MSM's bogus hype n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:57 PM
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29. Or, as it was put in another thread, reality bats last.
There's always the chance for it to change the game.
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YankeeLeft7x Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 01:22 PM
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23. Are Americans Actually this Stupid/Ignorant ???
If the GOP wins this election, Americans should be seen as both Stupid and Ignorant......

Any country which encoruages the likes of these Tea Party jerks have to be viewed as dumb and ignorant.

Americans need to do a much better job of resisting the morons like Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck and demand that the media stop promoting these windbags who are dumb-asses.
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klook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:07 PM
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24. Teabaggers only say out loud what millions
of Republicans are thinking. Their thinking is mainstream within the Republican Party.
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creon Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:24 PM
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25. Rhetoric
It is hard to get beyond the tub thumping to get a good reading on how people may, actually, vote.

I am not at all sure how real this tea party business actually is.
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Shining Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 02:27 PM
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26. K&R
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:06 PM
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31. With all
the secret donors' money, the economy, corporate media trashing the Pres. at every level, trashing Dems and especially Pelosi and Reid, the party of NO, the party of GREED, the money of ME and only ME, and of course the party of CRAZIES, and with all of this, the GOP TEA BATS may not win the House, Dems keep the Senate, and not loose as many Governor races as the polls predict.

Civil war within the GOP has been brewing, this may make it explode.

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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:30 PM
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33. Now THAT's something I can get all hopey-changey over
Open warfare between the 'baggers and the establishment GOPers. Make it so!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:38 PM
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35. Well then, let's get everyone out to vote democratic - To "burn republicans" & Tea party antics!
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 04:39 PM by GreenTea
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:49 PM
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36. Here's another incident:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9408132

A 72 year old man was arrested for assaulting an anti-Dino Rossi protester in WA. This old creep picked on a 23 year old woman.

If that was a 23 year old guy, he would have gotten his ass beaten, and he knows it. COWARD!
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denpat1 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 04:57 PM
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37. we can only hope
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 05:19 PM
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39. Oh dog, please let this come to fruition! eom
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 10:42 PM
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44. i have donated my THANK YOU $10 to the Sarah Palin fund to fuck up the GOP ! !
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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:25 PM
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45. Simple History
In Germany, the Brownshirts gave Hitler the muscle, but after the Nazis won, in came the Schutzstaffel (aka SS), the slick, amoral, professional group. The Tea baggers are the brown shirts, the Bushes are SS.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-10 11:41 PM
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47. Self Delete (Wrong Thread) (n/t)
Edited on Thu Oct-28-10 11:41 PM by ProudDad
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 12:12 AM
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48. Millers "security" agency didn't even have a security license.Soldier didn't have permission to be t
there either. Nothing but lying and corruption around this creep. Alaska can do better than this idiot.
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ivar1 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 01:17 AM
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51. AquaVelva man
Hopefully Paul turns off enough Kentuckians.
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burning rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-10 03:26 AM
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52. In 1998, Republicans were likewise counting on big electoral gains.
Edited on Fri Oct-29-10 03:28 AM by burning rain
But in the event, they suffered a reversal, as Democrats gained five seats in the House and broke even in the Senate. Be sure to vote November 2 and do what you can to hand the GOP another surprise.
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