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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:30 PM
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State Government Accountability Board to inspect Waukesha votes
Source: Biz Times

Kennedy issued the following statement today:

“Our election system is administered by people, and some problems are bound to occur. However, our post-election canvass system is designed to identify any errors and correct them. While unofficial results reported by some counties on Election Night have proven to be incorrect, the process of election officials canvassing and certifying those results is working.

“Because of the attention on vote totals from Brookfield, I am dispatching G.A.B. staff to Waukesha County today to review the business processes and verify the reported results in the election for Supreme Court justice. I have been in close contact with Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus since her news conference on Thursday, and have directed her to make the official returns from the polling places available for public inspection. These documents are public records. I believe she is now taking steps to ensure transparency and public confidence in the official results.

“The G.A.B. will issue a report on the results of its review as soon as possible, and before certifying the statewide election results.
“Waukesha County is not the only county where the canvass process has caught and corrected errors in the numbers reported on Election Night.

Media reports have also noted changes from the unofficial Election Night results in Milwaukee, Winnebago, Crawford, Shawano, Vernon, Rusk, Iowa, Door, Portage, and Grant counties. G.A.B. staff is also working with those county clerks to ensure the accuracy of their results.



Read more: http://www.biztimes.com/daily/2011/4/8/#state-government-accountability-board-to-inspect-waukesha-votes
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:31 PM
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1. K&R
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Cal33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:25 PM
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29. Just make sure that there are as many Democratic witnesses and
counters present as there are Republicans. They must be watched
every step of the way. Our nation has been bitten too many times!
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:36 PM
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2. I heard this morning that this Board does not have authority to impound ballots for investigation.
And the question of whether the chain of custody of the ballots has been compromised.....


The lessons of 2000 continue on, unlearned, and by design.


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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:40 PM
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6. The ballots are in sealed ballot bags.
There are provision for seizure. GAB may not have authority, the courts do.

She's a judge.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:36 PM
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3. Seize Nickolaus's computer, cell phone, land-line call records...
make-up case and chest of drawers....EVERYTHING.
Then give it a thorough going-over!
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:43 PM
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7. ...opens records request has been filed.
...her personal stuff, not yet.
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:56 PM
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24. +1000
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:36 PM
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4. Who staffs the Wisconsin Government Accountability Board?
At first glance this news is great - as long as it's a truly bi-partisan agency and not a group of Walker/Repub cronies who will simply legitimize any theft or deception.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:38 PM
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5. I know Kevin Kennedy is a square shooter.
He was a client many, many, years ago before he had a title.
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GillesDeleuze Donating Member (841 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:58 PM
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13. ive been impressed with GAB but it needs way more power
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:28 PM
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15. A "square shooter" who was working in the Thompson admin when
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 03:28 PM by sybylla
Nickolaus was working in the Assembly? The same "square shooter" who didn't think we needed to have voter-verifiable paper trails on our new electronic voting machines?

I, for one, will never trust the man.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:36 PM
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17. Well there's is honest and there's politicians honest. Ethical? I thinks so.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 03:37 PM by Ellipsis
It has been a long time. He was quite ethical then.


Jeffrey Pelt: Listen, I'm a politician which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when I'm not kissing babies I'm stealing their lollipops. But it also means I keep my options open.


"The hunt for Red October"
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:43 PM
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8. They need to count the actual ballots in that county, anything less won't alleviate the fears.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 02:43 PM by jsamuel
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:46 PM
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9. Wisconsin recount statutes. It will happen.
5.90(1)
(1) Except as otherwise provided in this subchapter, recounts of votes cast on an electronic voting system shall be conducted in the manner prescribed in s. 9.01. Except as provided in sub. (2) and s. 9.01 (1) (b) 8s., if the ballots are distributed to the electors, the board of canvassers shall recount the ballots with automatic tabulating equipment. The board of canvassers shall test the automatic tabulating equipment to be used prior to the recount as provided in s. 5.84, and then the official ballots or the record of the votes cast shall be recounted on the automatic tabulating equipment. In addition, the board of canvassers shall check the ballots for the presence or absence of the initials and other distinguishing marks, shall examine the ballots marked "Rejected", "Defective" and "Objected to" to determine the propriety of such labels, and shall compare the "Duplicate Overvoted Ballots" and "Duplicate Damaged Ballots" with their respective originals to determine the correctness of the duplicates. If electronic voting machines are used, the board of canvassers shall perform the recount using the permanent paper record of the votes cast by each elector, as generated by the machines.

5.90(2)
(2) Any candidate, or any elector when for a referendum, may, by the close of business on the next business day after the last day for filing a petition for a recount under s. 9.01, petition the circuit court for an order requiring ballots under sub. (1) to be counted by hand or by another method approved by the court. The petitioner in such an action bears the burden of establishing by clear and convincing evidence that due to an irregularity, defect, or mistake committed during the voting or canvassing process the results of a recount using automatic tabulating equipment will produce incorrect recount results and that there is a substantial probability that recounting the ballots by hand or another method will produce a more correct result and change the outcome of the election.

5.90(3)
(3) A court with whom a petition under sub. (2) is filed shall hear the matter as expeditiously as possible, without a jury. The court may order a recount of the ballots by hand or another method only if it determines that the petitioner has established by clear and convincing evidence that due to an irregularity, defect, or mistake committed during the voting or canvassing process the results of a recount using automatic tabulating equipment will produce incorrect recount results and that there is a substantial probability that recounting the ballots by hand or another method will produce a more correct result and change the outcome of the election. Nothing in this section affects the right of a candidate or elector aggrieved by the recount to appeal to circuit court under s. 9.01 (6) upon completion of the recount.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:47 PM
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10. I wouldn't allow Nickolaus near anything....n/t
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:49 PM
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11. .
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 02:55 PM
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12. Haha...Well there is that..n/t
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:15 PM
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14. I have to post Scott Jensen's Wiki page here for exposition... ahh, the tangled web we weave.
After receiving his graduate degree, Jensen worked in public relations, working as Director of Government Relations for Wisconsin Manufacturers and Commerce from 1984 to 1987.<2>

Jensen began in politics by working as the staff director of the Wisconsin Assembly's Republican caucus from 1987 to 1990, serving under Assembly minority leader David Prosser, Jr.. While there, he ran the first campaign of John Gard for the Wisconsin Assembly in 1987. Jensen the worked as chief of staff for Wisconsin governor Tommy Thompson from 1990 to 1992.<3>


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Jensen
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:36 PM
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16. Well, then there's that
Perhaps it's best he's out and exposed to the sunlight, otherwise he might go to ground and hook-up with Brooks Brothers, Kochroches, et al...

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:41 PM
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19. He sure wriggled out of jail time and that felony... unlike Chavala
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 03:48 PM by Ellipsis
They were both breaking the rules but it was an excepted practice,and both sides knew it. The the repubs were worse and Chavala goes to jail because he manned up...but he was weaselly too.

Long ago... when the hookers were still hanging out by the capital. A friend who lived next to the capital walked in to his garage and "found some hooker smoking this guy's stick" He was quite the phraseologist.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:39 PM
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18. They need to interrogate Clippy! I'm sure he saw everything!

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Lifelong Protester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:50 PM
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20. The Clippy photoshop, hilarious!
I still don't get how this whole 'oh, look what I found' idea makes any sense a day and a half after the obviously close election. Here at our small school, the district administrator canvasses the votes, and double, triple, QUADRUPLE checks for all villages and townships before any results are posted.

How on Earth do they expect us to believe that the clerk was not in their, computer or whatever, combing the results for more votes BEFORE the results were published?

We are not that dumb.

Period.
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think Donating Member (316 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:51 PM
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21. Now that's funny
Thank you!
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groundloop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:53 PM
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22. I have a question - IF those results were phony how can it be proven?

I'm reading about a county clerk who magically found more votes on here personal PC. I've read accounts that they were in an excel file, and other accounts that they were in a database file. Regardless, say someone did in fact alter the vote totals - could it ever be proven?

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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:01 PM
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25. Hand recounts of ballots are rarely done. Typically ...
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 04:02 PM by Ellipsis
Just machine counts... or random samples... The higher the percentage of random hand counts, say 10%, and odds as it were, are fairly reliable in show a potential county wide or statewide manipulation.

100% handcount will be done in Waukeasha county. State law demands it... in the sense that chain of custody alone was broken they can justfy it under law.

Let alone, it is suspicious... probable cause as they would say. "Lets have a look see".
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louslobbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 03:55 PM
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23. Problems are one thing, outright cheating and manipulation by an" IT" clerk who puts things on
her personal computer, is thought out, and if her recent past is any indication, is cheating. No one trusts this vote now, except the Koch thugs that owned that seat and paid good money for it. They don't easily give up what they steal. I would bet my life, that this was out and out vote fraud, her history is already tainted, they just gave this thief another bite at the apple and obviously, a a Republicon Zebra cannot change it's stripes. She's another rabid right, ideological, sociopath, and hypocrite criminal fraud.
Lou
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:05 PM
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26. She certainly seems culpable.
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 04:06 PM by Ellipsis
...made for it.
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iwishiwas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:14 PM
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27. Her personal computers should have been confiscated as
evidence from day ONE!


http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/govt-and-politics/elections/article_7939f4b0-6213-11e0-a744-001cc4c03286.html

Officials head to Waukesha County to check election procedures

DEE J. HALL | dhall@madison.com | 608-252-6132 madison.com | (66) Comments | Posted: Friday, April 8, 2011 2:04 pm


* Election 2011: Full coverage at wi-elections.comRelated: Election 2011: Full coverage at wi-elections.com

Supreme Court results by county
More from this section

* New count gives Prosser lead after Waukesha County inputting error
* Election chief says Supreme Court vote totals will change during verification
* Election turnout higher than in recent memory
* Kloppenburg declares victory over Prosser in Supreme Court race
* Walker says Supreme Court race not a referendum on his agenda

More...

The state Government Accountability Board dispatched officials to the Waukesha County Clerk's Office Friday afternoon to review procedures used in tallying results of Tuesday's Supreme Court election.

The county became the focus of intense scrutiny after Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus announced on Thursday -- two days after the election -- that she had made an error in failing to report more than 11,000 votes in the race, which pitted Justice David Prosser against challenger Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg.

Kloppenburg appeared to lead by a slim 204 votes in unofficial vote totals Wednesday. But the new results from Waukesha County put Prosser more than 7,500 votes ahead.

"Because of the attention on vote totals from Brookfield, I am dispatching GAB staff to Waukesha County today to review the business processes and verify the reported results in the election for Supreme Court justice," said Kevin Kennedy, GAB director and general counsel.
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:16 PM
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28. I would think, it has been, but by who?
Edited on Fri Apr-08-11 04:17 PM by Ellipsis
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-11 04:50 PM
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30. This is exactly what the Repugnants did during the OHIO...
Bush/Kerry election. Anyone else remember the precinct that had about twice as many ballots as there were registered voters in the precinct?

Many reports of counties running out of ballots in WI and using photocopy(won't run in the electronic vote counters)ballots. Others when they ran out, had people using the voting machines(no paper train).

What a blow to Wisconsin...the first state to take on their gov. Nickolaus's office needs to be sealed and armed guards stationed there. Her home needs the attention of the FBI to run some searches.

Will/have Democrats learned anything from the first 10 years of the new century?
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-11 01:23 AM
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31. Ohio 8861
I know Ohio better then 99.99% of Ohio knows Ohio.

I know Ohio.
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