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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:40 AM Original message |
Gun Control Advocates Win A Rare Victory In Budget Deal |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Awesome. nt |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Chirp Chirp! The Crikets prevail! HOWEVER... |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
25. Well, I'm not sure what you want people to say |
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villager (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. in these rightwing times, victories for common sense are indeed rare... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
4. Why would anyone want to prevent tracking sales of guns? |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Particularly large-scale aggregate data like this |
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Ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Because the federal government has no right to know what I purchase |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Does that include... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. AM-FO, using the vernacular of the Michigan Militia |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:10 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Does the federal government have a right to know if you possess child porn? |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. No. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Sorry, but if CP isn't protected by the 1A, then how can guns and ammo proliferate under the 2A? |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. There is no legitimate reason for government to posess and traffic in CP, as there is with guns |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. As I said. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Firearms have no redeeming value -- they can only be used for violence --- |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. They can also be used for defense. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. The right wing is attempting to make this a more violent society ... the likelihood |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 04:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. All of this is beside the point. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Excuse me, you're right -- a gun provides you the way to shoot someone!! |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yes, they do. |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. But they do have a right to regulate those purchases. |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. The People Who are Wholesaling the Guns to the Drug Runners Might Not Want Sales to be Tracked |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. So we need to trust the ATF to regulate guns on the border? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. "getting caught" implies a degree of efficiency and effectiveness |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yay?! |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. I don't really have a problem with this. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. Let's bill the GOPs/NRA for these gun-tracking expenses -- |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 05:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. What fewer guns means. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 09:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. What we are all threatened with is weapons -- they make diplomacy less likely .... |
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Straw Man (986 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Diplomacy? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 12:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. You think rather narrowly ... "diplomacy" can mean a discussion between two drivers |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 07:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. You need to take a look at recorded history. |
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Sonoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-11 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. It really doesn't matter. |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-14-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
34. "Incredible rare event during the gun policy debates... |
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