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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:10 PM
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Rumsfeld: Prisoner Abuse 'Un-American'
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=1&u=/ap/20040504/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_prisoner_abuse_32


We're taking and will continue to take whatever steps are necessary to hold accountable those that may have violated the code of military conduct and betrayed the trust placed in them by the American people," Rumsfeld told a news conference.

Rumsfeld called the allegations "deeply disturbing."

"I have no doubt that we will take these charges and allegations most seriously," he said.

The disclosures of prisoner abuse at Baghdad's main prison was "totally unacceptable and un-American," he said. Rumsfeld disputed critics in Congress who have said the Pentagon moved too slowly and asserted that correct military procedures were followed.

"These things are complicated, they take some time," he said of the investigations. "The system works. The system works."

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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:12 PM
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1. Really?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:12 PM
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28. Rumsfeld doesn't know the meaning of the word "AMERICAN".. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:12 PM
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2. You dip....
you WERE at that prison INSPECTING it... WE have photos.

So, tell me Rummy have you started shreding any papers
that may get you implicated in a war crimes tribunal?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:14 PM
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3. Wow! He's at least as sincere as Reichsfuhrer Heydrich!
At least as sincere.

Maybe more so.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:16 PM
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4. The article left out some of the best quotes
including his response to why he didn't view the photos earlier, and prepare for their inevitable publication... Rummy answered that they did ask for the photos, but were told there weren't any copies...!
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:21 PM
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7. I like when he turned to his soldier helper....
and said "Did I see the photos?". Rummy is hard to quote much like chimpy*.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:03 PM
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16. I indeed believe Rummy can out do Chemical Ali
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:16 PM
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5. Yeah Donald...
...so is invading someone else's country without provocation.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:06 PM
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27. Donald "Duck"
n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:16 PM
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6. this is the kinda thing that anti-americans
wouLd do... or so i'm toLd nightLy by sean hannity.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:22 PM
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8. UnAmerican?
- So is stealing elections and waging wars of aggression.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:41 PM
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13. You're right....My question is
Where has America gone? Does it exist at all beneath the surface of these decidedly unAmerican acts? Or has it sold out to Fascism for eternity?
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:24 PM
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9. I could post some things about Donald
Rumsfeld that I read on a website as I was researching this "gentleman".

If anyone would have condoned torture and abuse of helpless Iraqis, it would be our man Donald.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:30 PM
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10. The disclosures of prisoner abuse ... was ‘totally untotally unacceptable
and un-American,’
The DISCLOSURES?!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:38 PM
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12. guess he means CBS's photos and The New Yorker article
what an ass....no one would know anything about this if CBS didn't get the ball rolling.
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drNick Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:24 PM
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24. Nice catch MisterP
Yep that is so funny... he is not upset about the abuse, only the disclosures. Quite chilling.. lets see what how far they retaliate against the whistleblowers, media etc, another Patriot act.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:33 PM
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11. Personally, I enjoyed the "body language",...
,...I could actually SEE the man's blood-pressure rising *heh heh*.

He's a failure. He's an ass.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:55 PM
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14. if "the system works"
then Rummy will be back in the private sector in January.
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 01:57 PM
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15. Rummy, you wanker-
Just look inside any prison in the U.S. Sheesh!
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:10 PM
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17. unamerican bender
QUOTE: Torture has been outlawed in all circumstances everywhere. But global terrorism may be leading America to bend the rules.

Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld-(January 9, 2003-Economist, The)

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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:20 PM
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18. wow we need that
citation that is enormously telling.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:22 PM
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19. WTF.......it's as 'Murikkkan as APPLE F'N PIE.......
Edited on Tue May-04-04 02:47 PM by jus_the_facts
....this exact type of thing is what the MAJORITY of television shows PROMOTE *reality* and drama RE: be as cut throat, back stabbin' as you can be..and all the CRIME dramas.....also HAZING goes on and has gone on across the country in colleges AND high schools....don't EVEN get me started on OUR OWN PRISON SYSTEM....or the history of civil RIGHTS!!! :eyes: :evilfrown:
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:40 PM
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20. I guess he doesn't want to the buck to stop with him or Bush
Does anyone doubt it goes all the way up to Bush?
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 02:59 PM
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21. considering we have the highest per capita prison population
and abuse is an inevitable part of the jailer/prisoner dynamic, i'd say prison abuse is 100% american.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:05 PM
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22. Rummy said that the public was informed of the abuse
in January or February (I think that's what I heard him say). How come I don't have any memory whatsoever of that??? Did the government disclose this and, if so, what the hell did they say???
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drNick Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:15 PM
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23. reminds me of the time...

Homer scolds Bart for something(I think water in the mailbox) and
Bart says, "what the hell you talking about? you're the one that double dared us!".
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 03:31 PM
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25. Rumsfeld? Shut the f*ck up.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:01 PM
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26. unamerican yes
but pro-neocon. just ask hannity. he thinks its not that serious
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-04-04 04:15 PM
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29. Worst Rummy Performance Ever
And I think I have heard most of them. He was almost as incoherent as Bush himself and somehow he still managed to be arrogant and condescending. Amazing. The torture/abuse distinction was pathetic. And the Pubbies attack Kerry, Gore and Clinton for parsing words. Sheesh! And Rummy still hasn't read the report! Not even the Executive Summary. He says he "looked" at it. O.K. Rummy Dummy. Exactly what does that mean? You looked at the first paragraph, the last paragraph, or just the outside cover?????
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