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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 12:58 PM Original message |
Ralph Nader Calls Israel a "Puppeteer" |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. JohnLocke calls Ralph Nader "dumbass" |
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Hornito (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. Whoa Ralphie!! As much as I despise the man, he has his.... |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sounds like the jerk is losing it even more... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
77. Ya think? |
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Moderator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. The link did not work |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Here's a link that contains similar text from 3 June |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Correct refusenik website address appears to be |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. This all seems eminently reasonable |
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Zerex71 (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #11 |
33. Criticizing a government's policies is not anti-Semitism. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Nader didn't "criticize a government's policies" |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. The original link provides ONE SINGLE paragraph, extracted |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 06:56 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Deleted message |
muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Your facts are wrong |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. Updated it |
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West Coast Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why doesn't Nader pick Buchanan as his VP running mate? |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Speaking of which |
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Fenris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. Methinks that M. Nader is about to get pinned with the pale-blue "A". |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. I agree with that assessment |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. A lot of what he says is true |
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AngryWhiteLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
9. Even a busted clock is right at least twice a day... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
78. So true. Israel is apparently digging it's own grave with bad behavior. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nader ain't nuthin' but Nazi filth. Fuck'm. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Yeah,he's a nazi |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. No, like anyone who says Israel is all-powerful. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Yes, interesting how Michael Moore's movie failed to utter "Neocon" even |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. In Other Words, Sir |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Yes, clearly |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. Mr. Magistrate, ("Sir"), where have you been all this time? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Perhaps, Sir |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Not to mention that |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 06:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. He didn't mention the neocons |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I'm sure Paul Wolfowitz (and his comb) are glad |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:35 AM Response to Reply #48 |
60. Try these for something perhaps more substantive than personal grooming. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. If it was appearing on something as bland as PBS |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
80. Why Should He Mention Them, Ma'am? |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
32. The Jooooooos are coming! Mooooooooo!!!!!!! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. I saw it,thanks |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Isreal has WMD's let's get'm |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. A Nazi? A crank and egomaniacal sellout, but not a Nazi |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
46. The America Firsters hate immigrants. |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Check out his interview with Patty Patty Buch Buch |
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Classical_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. When Nader bemoans the loss of white culture maybe I'll take you seriously |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 06:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. You should read more closely before getting snotty |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. ??? |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
75. Hey ...I don't like Nader either....But Cheney/Bush is the nazi-fascist!!! |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Have a link to his full speech to the Council for the National Interest? |
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dolstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. I also hear he "urged" Sharon to try a homeopathic dandruff remedy |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Whoa, dude! Like, that really is SO shocking! eom |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. The bigger scandal is that he called Saddam an anti-Communist dictator |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. How did Saddam ever get American weapons and intelligence? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Omigosh. SH couldn't have been playing two sides against each other, ... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 02:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Inconceivable |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. He was never *anti-Communist* |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 04:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Granted, he was probably never anti-communist |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. He wasn't a Communist |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 05:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Agreed, Saddam may have trusted Moscow over Washington |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
59. His instincts were actually incorrect, arguably |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #59 |
73. Saddam was a Stalinist |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 07:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
55. He wasn't anti-communist - he just killed them??? |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 09:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Internally he was anti-everyone- |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. No USSR alliance since 1978 |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. He always went back to the Soviets, though |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. Saddam key in early CIA plot |
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keithyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
34. I still don't like Nader, even when speaking the truth. |
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dand (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. Ralph is right. |
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notadmblnd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. even a broken clock is |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
40. He's right about this but still a douchebag. n/t |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-30-04 11:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Its fairly easy to maintain true and puristic perspectives ... |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
54. Hows come none of the Nader apologists here will comment on this thread? |
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keithyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 07:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Come on, you know who they are and how they helped Bush... |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
62. Well he's right about this one |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:16 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. You think that a speech like this one would help Kerry? |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. How could anyone tell without looking at the whole speech? |
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truthspeaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. telling the truth would hurt Kerry? Please explain. |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Whether it's the truth or not |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 08:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I agree. But the main point made by RN in the NPC speech ... |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-02-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #74 |
83. That's a very different point |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-02-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Can't tell what point Nader was making from a sentence ... |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
66. Ralph hits the nail on the head!! RIGHT ON!! |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. And the same goes for the Cuban exiles in this country. |
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Gyre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
76. Sorry, I agree |
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No Passaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-01-04 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
79. As much as I hate that he's running for President |
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Liberal Classic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-02-04 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
81. I can't help but think of Larry Niven's Pierson's Puppeteers |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-02-04 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-02-04 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
84. Nader speaks the truth on the subject and is despised |
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Dardi (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-03-04 10:16 AM Response to Reply #84 |
86. Are you suggesting that we not Rally around Kerry |
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The Zanti Regent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-03-04 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
87. Nader shows his true colors |
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