Captain of 'Mutinous' Supply Company Relieved of Command

[DuctapeFatwa]

Washington - The commander of the reserve quartermaster company whose members refused an order to deliver fuel in Iraq last week has been relieved of his command, Pentagon sources told FOX News. Senior investigating officers who were dispatched to the 343rd Quartermaster Company's encampment in Tallil, Iraq, following the incident relieved the captain of his command Wednesday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136119,00.html

[lovuian]

1. Good Idea!!! You could tell this guy didn't give a damn about his men

the army better start waking up!!!

[fishnfla]

25. the captain was a lady soldier

apparantly she requested to be relieved of her command

[Moderator]

2. Here is a link for CNN

If some readers don't want to go to that awful Fox site. ( No reflection on you Ductape )

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/20/iraq.reservist/

[henslee]

5. These days, CNN is just as slimey. What can ya do.

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. I'm sure there are some differences, they are just too subtle for me ;)

[NMDemDist2]

3. funny how they relieve a guy of command whose troops make valid

decisions based on the evidence of equipment and risk assessment

but they can't find anyone above an E-5 in Abu Gharib or anyone at all for the Tora Bora fiasco

[cal04]

4. Commander relieved of duty in Iraq

On October 13, 19 members of a platoon in the company did not show up for a scheduled 7 a.m. meeting in Tallil, in southeastern Iraq, to prepare for a mission to Taji, north of Baghdad.

The unit's members complained their fuel trucks lacked the necessary armor and were in bad shape.The mission was ultimately carried out by other members of the 343rd, which has at least 120 soldiers, the military said. Soldiers involved in the incident later contacted relatives in the United States.

Sgt. Larry O. McCook was among those who refused the mission. He told his wife, Patricia, he had inadequate equipment."They don't have bulletproof protection on the vehicles," Patricia McCook said. "They just don't go fast at all. It's just not safe to be in hostile territory."

Another soldier, 22-year-old Justin Rogers, called his grandfather to say that several soldiers had been reduced in rank, according to The Associated Press. His grandfather said Rogers was reduced from sergeant to specialist and claimed that helicopter fuel being carried by the convoy was contaminated, the AP reported.




http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/20/iraq.reservist/index.html

[MADem]

6. When the 1st Sergeant says he is a fuckup

...odds are good he is a fuckup. Apparently, that unit had incredible esprit de corps, and were top performers in training. Highly motivated, all of them. And all 18 of them apparently said the same thing when they split them up so they couldn't 'get the story straight.'

When I heard that bastard had not gone out on a single run, yet was sending his people into harm's way without knowledge of the terrain or suitability of the equipment, I figured he was a loser.

[MercutioATC]

8. It's standard procedure, folks...like a cop involved in a shooting

who gets "desk time" during the investigation.

Stuff like this makes us look nuts.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

9. Sorry, but no...being relieved of command is one step away from being....

...out the door.

This isn't "pending an investigation", the investigation is over, and he is the one who was found at fault.

[MercutioATC]

12. Actually, not necessarily so...

NEWS RELEASE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
7115 South Boundary Boulevard
MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101
Phone: [phone]; FAX: [phone]; DSN 651-5894


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October 21, 2004
Release Number: 04-10-56


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


343RD QUARTERMASTER COMPANY COMMANDER RELIEVED OF DUTY

LSA ANACONDA, Iraq-The commander of the 300th Area Support Group, with the authorization of the Commanding General of the 13th Corps Support Command, has relieved the commander of the 343rd Quartermaster Company, of her duties, at her {343rd Commander’s} request, effective October 21.

The outgoing commander is not suspected of misconduct and the move has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of anyone involved. The outgoing commander will be reassigned commensurate with her rank and experience.

The names of the incoming and outgoing commander will not be provided in order to protect their privacy.

[Minstrel Boy]

10. Read the article, why doncha,

before making such pronouncements.

"The Pentagon sources wouldn't say why the move was made, only that the captain was found to have been derelict in his duty."


"Stuff like this makes us look nuts."

Why, if I had a nickel for every time.... :eyes:

[highnooner]

11. When a commander loses control of his troops,

he is as good as gone. There is no way that this person gets another command after this public humiliation.

[MercutioATC]

14. Actually, the military released THIS today:

NEWS RELEASE
HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND
7115 South Boundary Boulevard
MacDill AFB, Fla. 33621-5101
Phone: [phone]; FAX: [phone]; DSN 651-5894


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


October 21, 2004
Release Number: 04-10-56


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE


343RD QUARTERMASTER COMPANY COMMANDER RELIEVED OF DUTY

LSA ANACONDA, Iraq-The commander of the 300th Area Support Group, with the authorization of the Commanding General of the 13th Corps Support Command, has relieved the commander of the 343rd Quartermaster Company, of her duties, at her {343rd Commander’s} request, effective October 21.

The outgoing commander is not suspected of misconduct and the move has nothing to do with the guilt or innocence of anyone involved. The outgoing commander will be reassigned commensurate with her rank and experience.

The names of the incoming and outgoing commander will not be provided in order to protect their privacy.

[tabasco]

16. When you get relieved of command in the Army ...

especially a company commander or other junior officer, your career is over. A full book of press clippings doesn't change that fact. The officer may or may not face other punitive action, but he/she will not be promoted again and will leave the service because it is up or out for officers.

[RivetJoint]

17. She doesn't HAVE to leave the service

Unless she desires to (and she probably will). She can stay in until she is twice non-selected to Major.

[tabasco]

18. That's correct. Then she will HAVE to leave the service.

Did I say anything different??

[RivetJoint]

20. Yeah

You did. She doesn't have to leave UNTIL she is twice non-selected. And even then she MAY get a waiver to 20 years.

[tabasco]

22. Don't mean to be a pain in the ass ...

but where did I say that the officer had to leave the service immediately?

A company commander has about six or seven years in service. They will have, what, nine or ten after they have been passed over twice? I have never seen a Captain get passed over and then waivered to stay in for twenty. Never. I have seen Majors get waivers when they only had a couple years to twenty years, but never a Captain.

[RivetJoint]

23. I'm sorry.

I thought you meant immediately.

An officer should have 11-12 years in service before the second pass-over to Major.

Depending on the MOS or AFSC, services are offering more waivers to allow selected personnel to stay until 20. Since she is a reservist, I doubt she will be offered this, but one never knows.

A major does not require a waiver to stay in a full 20 years. High Year Tenure for ALL services is 20 years for an O-4.

[RivetJoint]

13. I think "he" is actually a "she"

Not that that matters..."Captain" is asexual.

[lastliberalintexas]

19. It does matter

This is just one more way that they can get rid of a female in any command position, and still get away with blaming the lower ranking officials. Because of course no high ranking individual at the Pentagon (all men) had anything to do with issuing these orders to her to try to get rid of this contaminated (Halliburton?) fuel. :eyes:

Does anyone here really believe that this was solely her call to force her people to deliver contaminated fuel? I doubt it, anymore than I believe that the actions of our people at Abu Graib were solely to blame on our people there. You let Rummy and gang off the hook if you fall for that.

[RivetJoint]

21. I'm sorry

I did not realize it was part of the larger plot to screw over women in the military in any way possible. I'm sure it was only her company that was "ordered" by the higher ups in DC to make their commander look bad.

[gulfcoastliberal]

15. "contaminated helicopter fuel"

Then 2 choppers suddenly crash after the mission was completed by other soldiers. Coincidence?

[MADem]

24. Major BUMMER--the chickenshit Captain was female

http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=25061

The supply commander “asked to be relieved and her request was granted,” said Lt. Col. Steven Boylan, a spokesman for coalition forces in Iraq.

As an unabashed champion of the usually outstanding work that female servicemembers do, this is unfortunate. Sure, I KNOW that one bad apple does not make a barrelful, but I can just see the cretinous Phyllis Schafley types spinning this to suit their own "barefoot, pregnant, and up to your elbows in dishwater" purposes. And it does not matter that the vast majority of female service personnel do their jobs proudly and well, the bastards who do not understand the strong contributions that females make to the AVF will flog this like an old mule.

On an unrelated note, I love the way they make all these junior and field grade personnel in charge of small units into "commanders." Hell, I suppose if they can't pay them, they can't give them leave, and can't properly equip them, a title will make it all better.