Her dad mad as hell, out to whup O'Reilly

[quaoar]

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/244541p-209555c.html

BY ADAM NICHOLS
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Bill O'Reilly's accuser blasted him for pursuing a campaign of sleaze against her - and warned that her 74-year-old dad is out for blood.
Andrea Mackris told the Daily News yesterday that the Fox talk-show host had "a lot to answer for, to his wife and to his God."

In her first extensive newspaper interview, Mackris talked about how hard the last two weeks have been on her and her dad.

"Like any father, he can't stand the idea that this happened to his daughter," Mackris said with her lawyer, Benedict Morelli, at her side. "If he had his way, he'd challenge Bill O'Reilly to a duel."

Her dad, Constantine, who lives in St. Louis, and the rest of her family has known about the sex-harassment accusations from the start, she said. "I can only imagine what my mom thinks."

[obnoxiousdrunk]

1. The No Skin Zone- A good read

Bill O'Reilly's obsession with porn.
http://www.slate.com/id/2108355/

[Scairp]

30. Yep

I really thing O'Lielly is going down, and I don't mean that the way that he would, if you get my drift. I never thought about it before I read this Slate article, but he does talk about porn a great deal on his t.v. show. I have no clue about the radio show cause I never listen.

[wicket]

2. "If he had his way, he'd challenge Bill O'Reilly to a duel."

ALRIGHT!!! Sounds like my kind of man :) I'm glad he's standing up to that sickening scum.

[democrat_patriot]

3. Who's her dad? Zell Miller?

[AndrewJacksonFaction]

7. LOL, LOL, LOL, I thought the same thing

[davidinalameda]

4. I'd watch Faux to see that duel

:spank:

[colonel odis]

5. nice to see a young woman's father taking a jerk like o'reilly to task.

o'reilly may be a darling of the conservative media and may have successfully created an image of himself as the blue-collar tough, man of the street.

beneath that, though, he's just another tv personality. shallow, sub-intelligent, and one that thinks his celebrity allows him to hit on people's daughters.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

6. O'Reilly has a daughter...wonder what he's do if it was his kid.

[Lerkfish]

19. I first misread you...thought you were wondering if he'd DO it to his kid.

my misreading was more salacious.

[laurel6]

8. O'Reilly deserves to get smacked for this

He is a souless disgusting twerp.

[TexasBushwhacker]

9. Devil's Advocate kinda

From the article:

"When he calls me and makes these comments, I'm supposed to say, 'Mr. O'Reilly, that's immoral'? I'm supposed to complain to human resources about this man, and then walk into work the next day to certain retaliation? What is happening to me now would have happened then, except I wouldn't have had a lawyer by my side."

Well actually, yes, you ARE supposed to report it to human resources (or whatever her employee handbook says) and go back to work and hope they do their job and get O'Reilly to stop and let him know in no uncertain terms that he may not retaliate in any way.

NOW, if her work environment continues to be hostile, if O'Reilly continues to do his phone sex thing or other inappropriate behavior or if they fire her for no good reason, THEN she gets an attorney and sues. You have to let the company do its job and address the problem. You don't just blindside them with a lawsuit.

Now I'm no fan of O'Reilly, but I'm also not a fan of women playing victim, sometimes for years, and then asking for a big payout for their "victimization". It takes away from the legitimate complaints from women who have been victimized, made complaints, fought for their rights and suffered the consequenses.

HOWEVER, O'Reilly either knows of an amount that was demanded verbally, or he's blowing smoke regarding the $60 Million amount. Mackris's lawsuit only mentions that number as the approximate annual revenue for The O'Reilly Factor. Her lawsuit does not demand a specific dollar amount for her suffering.

[msmcghee]

12. You have no concept of what you speak.

Only someone who has never been subjected to the abuse of power at work would say that.

When you are not the boss, your job is where you spend your life and where all your hopes for the future lie. Your future depends on your boss believing you have his best interests at heart. Once you complain, you then live in a completely different world. It is only amatter of time before he figures out a way to retaliate - and get rid of you, legally.

As long as you are there your boss will never forget what you did to jeopardize his job.

Once you make a complaint you now become the subject of speculation yourself, that you invited the behavior to get in good with your boss - and that now you are complaining because it didn't work.

The behavior is up to the boss to start, continue or halt. It is not her responsibility. If she intitiated it, he should have immediately held a meeting with another witness present to set things straight and eliminate the possibility that he could ever be accused of sexual abuse.

He didn't do that. He is guilty and should fry.

[Mike Daniels]

14. Why did she go back to work for O'Reilly then?

That's my problem with this whole story.

I'm not saying that nothing happened one way or the other but she left her job after O'Reilly had started with the suspected harassment, found gainful employment with CNN to the tune of $90,000+ per year and then two months later goes back to FOX AND to work for her harasser?

She was employed outside of FOX - Why did she go back to a noted hostile work environment?

I suspect that neither party is being completely level with all the facts.

[Ilsa]

16. I read that she returned because

she asked him if he'd stop the trash, and he agreed not to harass her anymore. I guess she screwed up by trusting him and taking him at his word.

[K8-EEE]

23. I Have Been In Her Situation, It's Like This:

Years ago working as a PA on a television show, I had a creepy boss, I mean, ahorrid, wretched creepy boss.

What did I do? I did nothing.

I LOVED my job, I loved the work & the people I worked with I just hated this one asshole. I developed a system to avoid being alone with him -- my saving grace was that he wasn't in the office much.

I had bills - I had rent, I really NEEDED my $500 a week, while this producer (who shared Bill's obsession with the 2-gal thing and was always musing aloud me and WHO ELSE? ugh....never in million years.)

In production work, when one show is over it's normal to have massive layoffs. They retain the best/favorite people to work on upcoming projects, development etc I KNEW if I caused trouble with this guy, I would not be retained so I did nothing.

Remember that when you work in television you are unemployed about half the time unless you snag a gig on the rare long-running show like I did. That's hard to come by and most us work a lot of 6 and 13 week gigs before we really have a steady job.

My problem was solved when he created a position for a slutty temp worker, who had no job skills whatsoever. She ended up with her own office, making more money than I did (the PAs do a shitload of work) but I didn't care, because after that he left me alone.

[msmcghee]

20. She went back because . .

. . she saw that as her best career track opportunity. She probably believed O'Reilly would eventually give up the sex-talk and deal with her professionally when he realized it wasn't going anywhere.

There's no hard line when you can say what you did so far was wrong, but I won't report it - to it now is over the line enough to report.

It's a slippery slope and once you're on it, the fact that you let it go this long without reporting it works against you - just as you are holding it against her.

You've gotta be in that position before you'll understand what it's like to have to choose every day to throw away all the time and effort you've put in to advance your career on that track - and become the "vindictive bitch" that you will be accused of as soon as you report it.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

29. Jesus fucking christ men piss me off!

Why should SHE modify ANY professional desires or accomplishments to satisfy a fucking leach?

For the record...if she is equated to a gold digging whore, let me be the first to say there is no greater gold digging whore than O'Reilly himself

[Tansy_Gold]

15. Been there, done that.

A female employee who goes to HR with a complaint of sexual harassment against her boss stands a chance of getting a hearing in inverse proportion to her boss's importance to the company. IOW, the more powerful your boss is, the less chance you have.

I can't even begin to enumerate the examples I've heard from friends and co-workers, and as a professional "temp," I hear a lot. But I've also been in the position myself of having to decide whether or not to "rat" on a boss who has engaged in what I considered unacceptable behavior.

HR people have a bad habit of telling the complainant, "Are you sure you aren't just over-reacting? I know you aren't too crazy about Mr. X, but I don't think he'd really do anything like that." SMACK! there goes any hope of the complainant getting a fair hearing. She's already been told they aren't going to believe her, aren't going to take her side of the story seriously.

And when other women in the company see what's happened to one of their "own," they too become reluctant to say anything.

From what I've seen -- and I freely admit I have NEVER watched or listened to O'Reilly's show or read a word he's written -- the man is a slug (no offense to the garden-variety slug) and given his position of power within the Faux organization, I would tend to agree with any claims Mackris makes that she had little choice to proceed as she did.

The break-throughs made in women's empowerment in the 60s and 70s and into the 80s have met with major backlash (thank you, Susan Faludi) and I'm sure Mackris isn't the only woman who has felt she had to fight her own fight without recourse to "the system."

Tansy Gold, in rant mode today

[progressivebydesign]

25. Most of us working women KNOW what she means!!

We all know that complaining, unfortunately, only makes things worse.. So much for the supposed sexual harrassment complaint systems. We ALL know that if we complain we'll usually be subjected to (choose all that apply): 1) subtle retaliation 2) Blatant retaliation 3) sudden drop in perceived job performance 4)eventual firing (for some other reason, of course) 5)blackballed in the future from other companies that fear you're a "troublemaker".

We suffer thru this shit, because we know the reality of actually solving the harrassment is rare.

[Mad_Dem_X]

28. Unfortunately, you're right

And we can only guess why this woman stayed as long as she did. Personally, I hope O'Lielly gets burned big time for this.:grr:

[prayin4rain]

17. Yeah but money is the only thing that matters to these people.

He wouldn't have gotten fired. Some how it would have been settled and he would get to continue on in his cushy life abusing people.

[okieinpain]

18. I wish it worked that way, but human resources is a waste of time

if she had went to them, all they would have done is help o'reilly cover his trail, and find a way for him to fire her.

my wife was having problems with her female supervisor, and HR just help the supervisor make up shit. first the sup said my wife talks to much, so my wife stops talking and the next thing she knows she's back in HR, because she not helping to make a fun environment. HR's are full of shit, if o'reilly was being an ass she was totally at his mercy, and the only thing she could do is get him on tape, and get a lawyer.

[Lerkfish]

22. HR's are an extension of the company, not the employees....

When our company was negotiating a contract, the HR tried everything they could to break the union. They operated in the company's interests solely, and unabashedly.

I don't trust any HR to do anything but my health insurance.

[Lerkfish]

21. You have no idea....I was sexually harrassed...by a woman in a position of

authority. I wasn't the only one.
She would call you into the office, close the door, and stare at your crotch and say...well, things. She was married. I was married. But she was like 4 levels above me, in a very powerful position. Did I report it to HR? are you nuts? No one, except the other guys she harrassed would believe me, in fact people I told just laughed and said I was "lucky"

I was shamed and embarrassed, when I didn't do anything wrong. Since then, I've grown up a bit and would have reported her...but AT THE TIME, the controversy would have ended my career due to her influence.

I so not down with "blaming the victim" in these cases. Sexual harrassment exists, is very slimy and unjust, and to bring it up means to be harrassed all over again by people who don't believe you.

[Francine Frensky]

24. WRONG!!! Rules get thrown out when your boss is an important figure

Yes, if Howard from Accounting is the guy harrassing you, then you deal with the matter inhouse, through appropriate channels.

But FOX would have buried this claim (and maybe Andrea herself) if she hadn't gotten an attorney and made tapes and gone public.

I mean, give me a break, you think FOX is going to conduct some partial in-house inquiry when their number one guy is charged??? Only an idiot would believe such a thing.

[progressivebydesign]

26. TRUE!! ANd she'd be blackballed from other media companies..

..it's like a big fucking fraternity. Once a woman complains, she's out of the business.

[MadHound]

32. Spoken like one who has never been screwed over by their boss

C'mon now, here this woman is dealing with a POWERFUL man, and a notoriously RW company. And you say that she should walk into HR and file a complaint, then HOPE that HR does its job. Sheesh, get a clue. If she had done that, with or without proof, she would have been shown the door as fast as Fox's legal advisors think they could have hustled her out without a lawsuit. And then, with the kind advance notice given by said former employee, Fox and O'Reilly would have covered their tracks, obfuscated their actions, and initiated the first salvo in the legal war. And with that kind of money and the legal talent it can buy, Fox would have pounded this poor woman into the ground, and we would have been none the wiser.

Sorry friend, while I agree with your strategy in theory, in practice it would be a sure path to career suicide and massive legal bills. This way, she gets the jump on the bastards and has them rocked back on their heels, which is where you want them.

HR offices, in many cases, aren't there to look out for the employees or their interests, or to keep the company honest. Many are there simply to deflect harm of any sort from the company in a legaly expedient way. They do not have the employees' interests at heart, only the company's.

[TexasBushwhacker]

34. Not that it seems to matter to all who disagree with me

but if you looked at my profile, I AM A WOMAN, and considering that I have worked for about 25 years, YES, I've been sexually harassed. I don't know of many working women who haven't been.

As I said, when she doesn't follow company procedure by making a complaint, it makes it that much harder for women who have been victimized, made complaints, fought for their rights and suffered the consequenses. If women who were being harassed made complaints to management on a regular basis, maybe someone would get a clue that this shit is going on ALL THE TIME, that it's not right and really do something about it. The strength of her case is based in part on her credibility. The fact that she put up with it for so long without making a complaint works against her. I'm not saying it should, I'm saying IT DOES. By staying and saying nothing, she was saying the situation was tolerable, because she tolerated it!

[Jacobin]

10. Excellent. This is the kind of down and dirty crap

Dild O'Reilly's listeners would yuck it up and cheer on. "Takin' up fer mah dawter's honor!!!"

Lovin it.

What's his new demographic gonna be? Child molesters?

[jean]

13. Compare Constantine Mackris' paternal instincts and morality to those of

O'Reilly, father of two daughters.

[molly]

11. He is a sexual addict - there are books

someone should send him this link http://www.sexualcontrol.com/

[progressivebydesign]

27. I was sexually harrased by the husband of a TV station owner!!

He was a lower level editor at an NBC affiliate station. I suffered through the ordeal, because I LOVED my job, and KNEW that I'd be gone in a heartbeat if I complained about the Station Manager's husband! They since divorced, and I"m sure she finally found out about all the other women he was harrassing.

[kskiska]

31. The reality is…

1. The woman is always the one to go.
2. If you file suit against your employer, you're outta there. Don't plan on keeping your job.

[yardwork]

33. O'Reilly is a pathological liar as well

O'Reilly's pathological lying is clearly documented in Al Franken's book. There's something seriously wrong with O'Reilly.