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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:18 AM
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(Ex-Mayor) Giordano (R) says child sex didn't abuse mayoral authority
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 11:19 AM by khephra

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Giordano's attorney argued before the 2nd U.S. Circuit of Appeals on Wednesday that the former mayor wasn't using his political power when he paid to have oral sex with the 8- and 10-year-old girls.

If the three-panel appeals court agrees, it could jeopardize Giordano's conviction and 37-year prison sentence.

During an hour-long court hearing Wednesday, Judge Dennis Jacobs said that committing a crime while mayor is not necessarily the same thing as using political office to commit a crime.

Jacobs suggested that Giordano didn't need to use his political power to force the girls into sex.

"Did the children testify that they wouldn't have submitted if he hadn't been the mayor?" Jacobs asked federal prosecutors. "They never said that because it's not true."

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/ny-bc-ct--giordanoappeal1021oct20,0,5707609.story?coll=ny-ap-regional-wire
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:22 AM
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1. Uhh, Err, Ummm
Hmmm...Uhh, Ok, whatever... but he's still a sick fucking pervert and deserves a painful death or at the very least to be locked away forever...
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:22 AM
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2. Oh, he didn't use his governmental influence? Well then it's okay then.
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 11:22 AM by aden_nak
WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:22 AM
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3. this scumbag had oral sex with 8 & 10 year old girls
and now he is trying to get this thrown out on a technicality.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:40 PM
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15. never mind - self delete
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 12:42 PM by zbdent
Okay, I read the article.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:23 AM
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4. I just puked in my mouth.
Jesus Christ. Do I understand this right -- if it's decided that his being mayor didn't affect his putting his penis into the mouth of an 8-year-old girl, his conviction could be overturned?

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kwyjibo Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:32 AM
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10. I think it just means he'll get a lighter sentence
not so harsh as 37 years.

I can't fucking believe it, too...

I'm reading Reefer Madness by Eric Schlosser right now.. there are thousands of people in prison for doing nothing more than having a joint, even for being stoned, and a lot of them are in for way longer than this guy will be. There are even some life sentences for marijuana. THOSE people who didn't hurt anybody should be free, to open up more room for EVIL people who can do such awful things to children like this guy.

Hopefully the prosecutor can make the argument that if he weren't mayor, he wouldn't have thought he could get away with his actions.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:38 AM
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12. Not only that ...
I'm guessing if he were just 'Joe Sixpack' who'd traded a carton of cigarettes for the neighbor's daughter, he'd already have been in jail and been turned into a grease spot by his fellow prisoners. This guy probably has been protected, if he's being held in prison, and it turns out the prosecution allowed him to be prosecuted for something that probably can't be proved to get a heavy sentence ... and then on appeal it can be overturned or changed.

You're right about the 'war on some drugs,' too. I'm as sick of that as I am all the other chicanery that passes for justice in this country.
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Out the Parasites Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:25 AM
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5. Why is so difficult for them? Because it's embarassing to their party?
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Between 2000 and 2001, Giordano paid a crack-addicted prostitute to bring her daughter and niece to City Hall, his home and his law office for oral sex. After each encounter, Giordano told the girls not to talk about it or the woman would go to jail.

Prosecutors said those warnings, plus the fact that Giordano drove a police cruiser and carried a badge, made him an intimidating figure whom the girls were afraid to disobey.

"He watched over them like God," Assistant U.S. Attorney Peter Jongbloed said. "He ruled the city."

The three-judge appeals panel did not rule on Giordano's appeal Wednesday. Decisions frequently take several months and Giordano's case is particularly complicated.

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Dang it...this is clearly an abuse of power. Molesting children isn't about sex, its about POWER. I'm not sure why this is so difficult for anyone to rule on.


ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:39 AM
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13. He threatened the girl's mother with imprisonment
He had the authority as mayor/policeman to carry out his threat. This is an obvious case of abuse of power. Personally, I think he got off light with only 37 years. That guy really should rot in jail for the rest of his life.
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:25 AM
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6. either way he's toast
I suppose i would grasp at straws too if I was in a similar situation.

There is no statute of limitation on child sexual abuse. Even Republicans have to agree on that.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:34 AM
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11. Statutes of Limitation on Sexual Abuse
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:48 AM
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14. I stand corrected.
It susrprises me to learn this.

Thanks.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:28 AM
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7. A REAL Bushevik there
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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:30 AM
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8. YUCK
I don't care what office he held, what a monster!
How in heck does he have the hut spa to even bring this to an appellant court. He should be so ashamed of himself he'd want to stay in jail.

I hope to heck they keep this nightmare locked up for 37+ years.

Yuck, I need a bath now.:puke:
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foo_bar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 11:31 AM
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9. right, they're too young for graft jobs
Who said you can't beat city hall?
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:49 PM
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16. Giordano is a Criminal!!!!
He is unqualified to hold office if he RAPES LITTLE CHILDREN!!!!

It seems that Sexual Assault is a GOP Specialty!

:mad:
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:07 PM
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18. well, sexual assault & the authoritarian personality go hand in hand
A person who gets off on shoving cruel, reactionary policies down our throats probably also gets off on ramming other things down our throats as well...

It's an 'authority' thing.

:puke:


Mary
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:02 PM
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17. I'm still not getting this....
why the fuck does his job have anything to do with the fact that he had oral sex with an 8 year old and a 10 yar old? What difference does it possibly make if he "used his office" or not?

The fact is HE'S A FUCKING CHILD MOLESTER!!!

lock his ass down in GP with NO protection...see how much his "office" helps when he's getting a broom handle shov....grrrr, sorry....:argh:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:24 PM
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19. Lock him up & throw away the key.
If there are people like me in Waterbury, and I strongly suspect there are, Giordano's not going to want to come out of jail to face them.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:42 PM
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20. Google "mugshot Philip Giordano" see what a piece of shit repuke
looks like
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user Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 01:52 PM
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21. don't forget


He was the best the Connecticut GOP had to run for senate in 2000 with Bush's blessing. says a lot for Connecticut republican family values that he was the best they had but then John Rowland was their choice for Governor.
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