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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:49 AM
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Pentagon calls Lake Worth peace meeting a 'threat'
Pentagon calls Lake Worth peace meeting a 'threat'
By Kevin Deutsch

Palm Beach Post Staff Writer

Thursday, December 15, 2005



LAKE WORTH — When a group of about 20 activists met in Lake Worth last year to talk about how to keep young men and women from joining the military, their ranks included five Quakers, a disabled Boca Raton man and a 79-year-old grandmother.

Members of that group, which now calls itself The Truth Project, consider themselves a harmless band of idealists and peaceniks.

But the Pentagon considered their inaugural 2004 meeting a "threat," according to a classified database of information obtained by NBC News that lists information about suspicious people and activity inside the United States.

The Truth Project meeting, held at the Quaker Meetinghouse, was one of nearly four dozen antiwar meetings or protests listed on the 400-page document generated by an obscure Pentagon agency that analyzes intelligence reports on suspicious domestic activity, according to the report aired Tuesday on NBC's Nightly News.

The database classified the Lake Worth meeting as one of more than 1,500 "suspicious incidents" across the country over a recent 10-month period.

(more)

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2005/12/15/m1a_patriot_1215.html
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 01:59 AM
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1. It's the 1960s again in a way
They spied on people like Martin Luther King, Jr. for his activities, not to mention prominent figures of the anti-war movement of that era. The only difference is that technology has become more advanced, and the techniques used to spy on Americans have probably been refined since those days.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:11 AM
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2. Threat to what?
The prospect of more wars.
Crazy George making Pentagon crazy too
:rofl: :rofl:
Damn me cant recognize this US today.

The Power of Nightmare haha Pentagon start seeing monster under bed.
Americans, peace loving Americans declare as threat to nations.
Yeehaw, Yeehaw,

Knock Knock anyone home at the Pentagon
Gee Bin Laden crying damn damn even the American people getting more attention from the Pentagon
Not fair not fair.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:23 AM
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3. Today?... What do you think it was like in 1917 in America?
People seem to think this is the first time antiwar sentiment was ever seen as a threat or was ever spied upon. Um, no. Just people not reading enough history.

Not saying it's good... but unique? Uh no.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:34 AM
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4. Was not born yet in 1917
This kind of stuff not in History book.
But yeah I can dig that.
War turn ordinary people into cannonfodders.
Get drag into army.
Fight and die.
Hopefully cause worthy.

Who wants to die?
Of course people will object
:rofl:
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:14 AM
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5. bush and his pentagon take a page directly out of any dictator's book on
repression and how to treat the massess which oppose and dissent.

Pinochet
Fidel Castro
Hitler
Kruschev
Mao Tse Tung
Generalisimo Francisco Franco
Stalin
Fulgencio Batista y Zaldivar

just to name a few

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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 04:15 AM
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6. This was underreported in March
Edited on Thu Dec-15-05 04:21 AM by dutchdemocrat
Animal Rights Groups and Ecology Militants Make DHS Terrorist List, Right-Wing Vigilantes Omitted
By Justin Rood, CQ Staff

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not list right-wing domestic terrorists and terrorist groups on a document that appears to be an internal list of threats to the nation’s security.

According to the list — part of a draft planning document obtained by CQ Homeland Security — between now and 2011 DHS expects to contend primarily with adversaries such as al Qaeda and other foreign entities affiliated with the Islamic Jihad movement, as well as domestic radical Islamist groups.

It also lists left-wing domestic groups, such as the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) and the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), as terrorist threats, but it does not mention anti-government groups, white supremacists and other radical right-wing movements, which have staged numerous terrorist attacks that have killed scores of Americans. Recent attacks on cars, businesses and property in Virginia, Oregon and California have been attributed to ELF.

DHS did not respond to repeated requests for comment or confirmation of the document’s authenticity.

The conspirators behind the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, which killed 168 people and wounded more than 500, were inspired by radical right-wing movements. Eric Rudolph, the man charged with carrying out the 1996 Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta, which killed one woman and injured more than 100, was a member of the radical anti-abortion group Army of God. Initially, Rudolph was the object of a massive North Carolina manhunt in connection with a Birmingham, Ala., abortion-clinic bombing that killed a police officer and seriously maimed a nurse.

Another Army of God member, James Kopp, was convicted in the 1998 shooting of a doctor who performed abortions.

Individuals affiliated with such groups have also been involved in many smaller terrorist acts, including mailing hundreds of bogus anthrax letters to abortion clinics, and in plots to obtain and use conventional, chemical and nuclear weapons against civilians. In 2003, for instance, a Texas man prosecutors say was a white supremacist and anti-government radical pleaded guilty to charges of possessing a weapon of mass destruction. Authorities had discovered enough sodium cyanide bombs to kill hundreds of people; machine guns and several hundred thousand rounds of ammunition; 60 pipe bombs; and remote-control explosive devices disguised as briefcases in a storage space he rented. The man, William J. Krar, was sentenced to 11 years in federal prison.

SNIP

http://www.cq.com/public/20050325_homeland.html
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 06:36 AM
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7. Well you know those Quakers...
they say that the name is based on the notion of "Quaking before God." But...I'll bet it's secretly a codeword for making their enemies quake before their awesome, murderous ways.
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Earth_First Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:29 AM
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8. I thought though, that the Pentagon "erred" in collecting this database...
and all would be corrected in a timely fashion...

PHEW!

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 07:46 AM
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9. Ignorance is bliss and that's the way ya get big big armies of
human beings to fight.

Bring out the flag, the hero's, the marching bands, the wheel chaired veterans, fill the air with patriotism and talk of God, and God's love for your country. Then die for it!

A flag will hang in an empty window
Job well done.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 08:52 AM
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10. Vietnam era re-run
Same idiots and some sort of idiots are in charge -- so same shit happens.

Peace is a bad word -- probably using this word will get you on their "list".


Peace Peace Peace Peace Peace
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:09 AM
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11. Did the spy note that the group ate Middle Eastern food like hummus and
pita bread? That's indictable right there. Its off to Gitmo for you, hummus breath!
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 02:21 PM
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13. I'm screwed then
I bought a family-size tub and some pita, and have been eating it at lunchtime with sprouts and veggies for the past week.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 12:22 PM
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12. Once again, standing on a brick to kick a duck in the ass. . .
Republicans just don't know how to fight wars or terrorism.

:evilfrown:
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