Nader's dead end

[rusty charly]

To vote for Nader now means to agree with him that there's no real difference between the Republicans and the Democrats -- a proposition as absurd as attributing 9/11 to Saddam Hussein.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-op-gitlin22jul22,0,3334362.story?coll=la-tot-opinion&track=ntothtml

As an earlier Democratic majority flamed out in napalm, so has the Republican revolution flamed out in the Iraqi desert. Now the Democrats, whatever their travails, are offering three or four candidates who specialize in putting up big tents. In their varying ways, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Edwards and Bill Richardson can not only make majoritarian arguments, but they each look and sound like leaders suitable for a party that numbers tens of millions of people.

The Democrats' embarrassment of riches is a sign that they have learned the decisive lesson of modern politics: They must enfold movement energies within the party.

[MethuenProgressive]

1. Nader Democrats are the rason GWB is President

And neither have the spine to admit it.

[bemildred]

2. I don't really care if Ralph runs or not.

The year 2008 is most unlikely to resemble the year 2000, politically, anymore than 1968 was like 1960.

[AndyTiedye]

4. I Sure Hope It Does NOT Resemble 1968

That election was effectively decided by bullets.

RFK would have been a sure winner if he had lived.

[bemildred]

5. Hard to say. Like I said, it's going to be different.

I was around back then, and my first reaction is that we aren't there yet, 1968-wise. But a lot of other stuff was different back then too, and the governing stooges are much more desperate, much more painted into a corner.

And don't go bashing 1968, what little chance we have of getting our republic back is due to political reforms made back then.

[AndyTiedye]

6. No, We Are In a Far Worse Position Than We Were in 1968

They have the courts.
They have the media.
They have the churches.
They effectively have control of the Senate (despite nominal Democratic control, Lieberman and the neocons call the shots, not Reid).

[bluestateguy]

3. Nader would have a bitch of a time getting on state ballots

A lot of people will not sign. Where they do, a lot of states now have Democratic Secretaries of State who will tie up Nader's little "petitions" into legal knots.