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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:04 PM
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Giuliani: Obama Is "Not Ronald Reagan" (Brilliant Observation!)
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 06:23 PM by Flabbergasted
In other news Rush Limbaugh says: "Obama is not Osama". Fox news shocked at the assertion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2007/10/16/politics/horserace/entry3375206.shtml

Giuliani: Obama Is "Not Ronald Reagan"
October 16, 2007, 5:55 PM

CBS News' Ryan Corsaro and Maria Gavrilovic report:

Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani put his own spin on a famous line from American political history to attack rival presidential hopeful Barack Obama today.

Speaking at the Republican Jewish Coalition in Washington, D.C., Giuliani criticized Obama’s willingness to meet with enemies of the current Bush Administration -- including Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez, Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and Cuba’s Fidel Castro. Obama has justified reaching out to such leaders by referencing former president Ronald Reagan’s past negotiations with Soviet leaders during the Cold War.

“I say this most respectfully,” Giuliani said. “You're not Ronald Reagan.”

Obama spokesman Bill Burton shot back, releasing a statement saying, “While Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton do not think we should engage in the type of strong diplomacy practiced by Ronald Reagan and John Kennedy, Obama does. And given the hefty fee that Hugo Chavez's oil company paid Rudy Giuliani's firm, he apparently thinks we shouldn't talk to Chavez, but it’s fine to take his money.”

Giuliani’s campaign could not be immediately reached to respond to this claim.

Obama has repeatedly defended his willingness to talk to rogue leaders by discussing former presidents Kennedy, Reagan, and Richard Nixon. In Iowa today, Obama said, “We have Kennedy meeting with Khrushchev, Nixon meeting with Mao, Reagan meeting with Gorbachev at a time when those countries posed a much greater threat than Iran or Syria or Venezuela. And, so I think that we have
gotten in a mindset that believes that not talking to a leader is a sign of acting tough or having a position of strength. I don’t think that it communicates strength. I think that it communicates weakness. I think that it communicates arrogance.”

Giuliani’s line is derived from the famous exchange in a 1988 debate between then senators Dan Quayle and Lloyd Bentsen, who at the time were competing vice presidential candidates. Bentsen solemnly dressed-down Quayle, who had been pointing out similarities between himself and former president Kennedy.

“Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy,” said Bentsen to huge applause. Quayle received even greater applause when he told Bentsen that the comment was out of line.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:07 PM
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1. Nor is he
a yellow meat loaf.

Yes indeedie, a most astute observation.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 07:26 PM
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11. Is your avatar a Douglas Adams Logo?
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:08 PM
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2. Thank God for that
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:10 PM
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3. That is very true and now I must confess I am not .....
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 06:25 PM by Botany
Hannah Montana



I feel so much better now that I have come clean.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:14 PM
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6. How depressing. For the longest time
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 06:15 PM by Jackpine Radical
I thought you WERE Hannah Montana.

I never thought Obama was Reagan, though.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:16 PM
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7. Sorry
:rofl:

Rudy sounds like he is drinking from the stupid cup again.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:10 PM
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4. The Obama campaign is starting to sound desperate
with the quick snarky statements they're putting out these days. If Obama wants to survive into even February, he'd better not start being perceived as desperate because that's just what's starting to happen.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:28 PM
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9. On the other hand, I think it was only last week Obama was being
berated because he wouldn't "fight back." He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.... I don't think he's being snarky, just responding..
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:03 PM
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12. Perhaps
I didn't catch that about fighting back. I hope so, for Obama's sake. He's a good candidate and it's important to his future that he run a good race this time.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:20 PM
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13. By most standards he's running a great race. He could easilly win the nod if not this time in the
future.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:05 PM
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15. "desperate"? As opposed to hillary
who sounds like an ol' war horse?
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:11 PM
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5. Thanks for the nod, Rudy!
You idiot. :rofl:
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:23 PM
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8. Rudy appears to be a candidate for the MacArthur "genius" grant.
"....Obama Is "Not Ronald Reagan"..."

Oy. The man's another frickin' Einstein.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 07:17 PM
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10. No way. Rudy's no
Norman Einstein.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:37 PM
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14. Did Obama Ever Even Suggest He Was Reagan?
Or mention him in passing? Somehow I don't think so. I doubt that Obama finds anything admirable about St. Ronnie. Most Democrats don't.
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