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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:55 PM
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Turkish official: US will urge Iraq NOT to oppose a likely cross-border operation by Turkey.
Edited on Mon Oct-22-07 11:59 PM by Flabbergasted
http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=125307

US taking steps to avoid friendly fire in N. Iraq

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rica has requested three days from Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to allow the withdrawal of US troops from northern Iraq to prevent a possible confrontation of Turkish and US troops in the event Turkey starts an incursion into northern Iraq to strike against bases of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) terrorist organization, a Turkish official said.

The official, who wished to remain anonymous, also said the US will urge the central Iraqi government and the regional authority in northern Iraq not to oppose a likely cross-border operation by Turkey. The same source added that there is no plan to deliver PKK leaders to Turkey. However, the US could turn a blind eye to Turkey's operations, the source said.

Erdoğan told a news conference on Sunday after a crisis meeting with top civilian and military leaders that Turkey expected concrete steps to be taken by US authorities against the PKK after his talks with Rice. He spoke with Rice over the phone during the meeting. At a press conference following the meeting, Erdoğan said he told Rice that Turkey expected "speedy steps from the US" in cracking down on the PKK and that Rice had asked "for a few days" from him.


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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:57 PM
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1. WTF?
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-22-07 11:59 PM
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2. It's why Bush is not doing anything to stop the PKK. They want Turkey to invade.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 12:21 AM by Flabbergasted
Or they are impartial to the idea. The rest is all a formality to the Bush administration.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:05 AM
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3. Uh, do you seriously believe that?
Why would the US benefit from this?...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:16 AM
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6. I'm not sure what the plan is but all the information indicates they want Turkey to invade
or don't care if they invade. There is little indication from the Bush administration that they consider this issue to be a priority.

Perhaps the US really can't handle the 20 plus training camps in Northern Iraq and want Turkey to take care of it.

Perhaps they want more NATO troops in Iraq.

Perhaps they want to inflame the Kurds and hope it will help destabilize Iran.

Perhaps Turkey will get an extra chunk of land as part of the whole deal.

Perhaps they want the Kurds to knock out the pipeline that stretches from Iran to Turkey. They've threatened to do this.





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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:23 AM
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8. None of those scenarios makes sense. The PKK doesn't kill Americans.
It's no skin off US troops' backs, so there's no reason why the US' ability to handle the 20+ training camps is even an issue. Not that the US would want to - that's taking troops away from "winning" the war elsewhere in Iraq...

Even evil people generally don't want things that do not accomplish their goals.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:33 AM
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9. Alright "want" may be a strong word. However I don't think it's out of the
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 12:34 AM by Flabbergasted
realm of possibility that a Turkish (NATO) presence in Northern Iraq may be seen as a benefit to the US. If we were to Bomb Iran it would make Iran think twice before infiltrating Northern Iraq. Turkey would be forced to choose sides.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:55 AM
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11. ...If a NATO ally has to "choose" sides it's not much of an alliance.
We'll see I guess.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:56 AM
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14. There is also another possible benefit that is being realized as we speak and
confirmed by the article: Troops stationed in Northern Iraq can be moved elsewhere. Could be especially beneficial considering the redeployment of British troops.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:06 AM
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4. Ummm. "Want" may be too strong. Really.
More like they don't have the smallest chance of stopping either party.
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:09 AM
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5. That I'd believe. So Rice is getting us out of the damned way.
It's not much, but it's better than NATO countries shelling each other, in theory.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:19 AM
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7. The problem could be fixed by bombing the training camps in N Iraq.
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 12:20 AM by Flabbergasted
Why aren't they discussing this? It would anger the Kurds but what choice do we have?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:41 AM
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10. Diplomatic ineptitude at its finest
Methinks no one at the State Dept. has a clue on how to handle this.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:38 AM
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13. Or Anything Else
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:37 AM
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12. Bush Never Did More Than Barely Tolerate the Kurds
I hope the Kurds didn't even pretend to trust Georgie.

George believes if a people is in the way (like New Orlean's poor, occupying all that prime high and dry real estate in government owned and built public housing), then genocide is a legitimate answer to his dilemma.
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