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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:04 AM
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General Claims Bush gave 'Marching Orders' on Aggressive Interrogation at Guantanamo
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 10:16 AM by Hissyspit
Source: Raw Story

General claims Bush gave 'marching orders' on aggressive interrogation at Guantanamo
Nick Juliano
Published: Monday October 22, 2007

New book says US uses 'methods of the most tyrannical regimes'

More than 100,000 pages of newly released government documents to demonstrate how US military interrogators "abused, tortured or killed" scores of prisoners rounded up since Sept. 11, 2001, including some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties, according to a just-published book.

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"The documents show unambiguously that the administration has adopted some of the methods of the most tyrannical regimes," write Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh. "Documents from Guantanamo describe prisoners shackled in excruciating 'stress positions,' held in freezing-cold cells, forcibly stripped, hooded, terrorized with military dogs, and deprived of human contact for months."

Most of the documents on which Administration of Torture is based were obtained as a result of ongoing legal fights over a Freedom of Information Act request filed in October 2003 by the ACLU and other human rights and anti-war groups, the ACLU said in a news release.

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President Bush gave "marching orders" to Gen. Michael Dunlavey, who asked the Pentagon to approve harsher interrogation methods at Guantanamo, the general claims in documents reported in the book.

Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2007/General_claims_Bush_gave_marching_orders_1022.html





MODS: I could be wrong, but I think this got missed/not previously posted in LBN.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:05 AM
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1. Goody, Can we impeach now?
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Felinity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:06 AM
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2. NO!
But you may have a cookie.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:11 AM
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4. Add it to the list.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:22 AM
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7. Nope - he still didn't get a blowjob.
n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:45 PM
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27. ....then how come Condi's green dress is almost white now!
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:19 PM
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43. Well, there was that
Jeff Gannon/Guckert thing Monkeyboy had going there for awhile, but I guess ol' Jeff wasn't wearing his blue dress at the time so there's probably nothing to test for the Chimpster's DNA. ;-)

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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:46 AM
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10. No...
Ms.No-Nancy-No says "No" because she has taken over Joe Lieberman's job of licking the Chimp's ass....so with that the American public ends up being tortured with the Chimp staying in office until Jan. 2009...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:45 PM
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28. Hell With Impeachment--Throw Him in Jail!
Preferably, Guantanamo.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 09:20 PM
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39. I say hand him and Cheney over to the Iraqis to deal with. ..n/t
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:07 AM
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3. Quick! George needs us to fake another Bin Laden tape! n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:12 AM
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5. * belongs in Gitmo, or the Hague, and deserves the same treatment
he seems so fond of.
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freebrew Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:55 AM
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21. BS!
He deserves a firing squad...along with every one of his enablers.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:46 PM
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29. I Don't Disagree, But I Was Trying to Be Good
for my blood pressure's sake.
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dickbearton Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:56 PM
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35. Exactly. High Treason deserves the death penalty,
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:21 AM
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6. Bush is a sicko!
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:44 AM
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9. Just evil...
Bush is just evil. As are those who continue to wave their little flags and support him and his policies. Including some Democrats in Congress including one who is running for president.

Iran is not a threat any more than Iraq was a threat. We, however, are. We have become a shameful nation among nations.
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:46 PM
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41. Rome was most decadent in the waning years.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:40 AM
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8. "including some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties"
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 10:57 AM by Amonester
What "ties" did they have?

Somebody knows WHY "some who were not even expected of having terrorist ties" were victims of "some of the methods of the most tyrannical regimes" (non-elected) bushitler gave "marching orders" to (despicable, for not refusing "higher orders") "Gen." Dunlavey??

War criminals: Check the Nuremberg Trials... http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/wcrime.htm

Congress: Does the world hate US enough now? :cry:

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ptolle Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:57 AM
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12. ties
I'd suspect that as is the case for many people in gitmo and many, many in those unfortunate nations we've liberated their only ties are family ties and ties to the country where they were born and are too poor to leave if they'd wanted to. Just as I often wonder whether some Iraqis and Afghanis end up dead because they were terrorists, or do they end up terrorists because they're dead? Signore Alighieri could not devise a deep enough circle of hell for the boy warrior prince and the criminals he's inflicted upon this country.The Hague ought to be just a start. Real justice would see the bush baby and all the busheviks confined to Gitmo for the rest of their natural lives.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:11 AM
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15. Gotta give some to the sadists willing to follow illegal orders
The way you build a Praetorian Guard you can trust is to give thugs lots of leeway to satisfy their baser drives.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:55 AM
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11. What was that docu-drama about the guys from Britain that traveled to Afghanistan?
And then got caught up and herded up with "al Qaeda" and Taliban suspects?


I'm sure that film was very accurate in its portrayal of their time in Gitmo.

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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:59 AM
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13. But impeachment is "off the table." I don't get it.
Maybe if someone was blowing Bush when he gave the order . . .
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:08 AM
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14. Bush, the first American despot! Will there be more?
Impeach the MFer already.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:15 AM
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16. Ordering torture against the Geneva Convention: IMPEACH THE SOB

Does he have to sacrifice a live infant on the steps of the Lincoln memorial????

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

IMPEACH NOW
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:51 PM
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31. This wasn't torture, this was "aggressive interrogation"
Big difference, just as the Junta. :cry:
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:26 AM
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17. If this General
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 11:27 AM by vpilot
has documentation to prove that statement, then there is absolutely NO excuse for Bush/Cheney NOT being arrested and put on trial for war crimes after the House impeaches and the Senate convicts and removes from office.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:37 AM
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19. he could be put on trial too...
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 11:40 AM by Amonester
or, if given immunity (if he can live with the horror and find some sleep...), then he may not be safe to fly in small planes ever again.

The Home of the Brave calls him anyway...
Is he gonna pick up the phone?
Or will he cower in shame?

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:34 AM
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18. Bush still hasn't gotten over his Skull & Bones initiation . . . so he's giving back . . .
and it doesn't matter to whom . . .
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:53 AM
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20. Will someone pulllleeeeaaaasssseeeee....
Give Bush a blowjob, so that they can impeach him?
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allisonthegreat Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:58 AM
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22. does not surprise me at all..jerk that he is!!n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:06 PM
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23. so where is the report on the cia prison on a british soil
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 12:06 PM by madrchsod
in the middle of the indian ocean?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/B92144A6-B017-4C63-A367-759A99517DF9.htm
Al Jazeera English - News - 'Cia Island Jail' To Be Probed

http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007243&docId=l:687338108&start=19
LexisNexis News - Latest News from over 4,000 sources, including newspapers, tv transcripts, wire services, magazines, journals.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:08 PM
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24. We are a grand Christian nation and are superior to every other.
people on the earth. Didn't you get the lessons yet?

Everyday we receive confirmation of what we surmised, linked, threaded, and placed in flow charts.

Why not start by impeaching corporate news?

Stole our airwaves. Stole the truth.

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simmonsj811 Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:21 PM
Response to Reply #24
25. But he keeps
Saying the U.S. don't torture. bah abh bah bah
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:37 PM
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26. George W Bush - War Criminal - Hitler Incarnate!
Are you happy now Amerika?
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:48 PM
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30. Hey Nancy! - Is Impeachment Still Off the Table?
here is where we are heading

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Hr8k8WHTzN0
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lyonspotter Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:04 PM
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42. It is sad but true
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 12:52 PM
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32. Sweet Jesus....
can we make this end, please.

Congress, how complicit you seem to be. If anyone associated with a Congressman/woman directly reads our comments, please ask them what it's going to take for them to just try and do the right thing and throw impeachment out there regardless if they lose their precious seat in the process. I couldn't live with myself personally, I'd retire if I couldn't force myself to demand impeachment proceedings.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 01:07 PM
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33. Why would anyone be surprised by this? We ALL KNEW
this was happening--too many stories came out IN OUR FACES
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:22 PM
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37. This couldn't happen without the leadership moving it forward -- it would be impossible ---
it was an organized effort -- same crap in more than one place ---
over and over again -- ???

Deaths uninvestigated -- ?

Cover up by the military -- ???

Soldiers can't do that -- !!!


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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 06:46 PM
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34. K&R&Impeach
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 07:14 PM
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36. From blowing up frogs to blowing up people . . .. the Bush boys . . .
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 08:49 PM
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38. Then there is proof
Bush should go to prison for this.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 10:31 PM
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40. .
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-23-07 11:41 PM
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44. Whos to believe these "Jameel jeffur" and "Amrit Singh" guys?.. they have terrist names!!
Edited on Tue Oct-23-07 11:48 PM by rAVES
:sarcasm: (can never be too careful)
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NoGodsNoMasters Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 12:38 AM
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45. I never doubted it for a second.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 07:50 AM
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46. Give that man a front row seat
in The Hague
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-24-07 05:22 PM
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47. Attention General Dunlavey: Swifboat Attack Imminent
You have fingered the Boy King, prepare for the worst, from the worst.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:34 AM
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48. ......Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in overseeing the interrogation......



......The ACLU also found that an Army investigator reported Rumsfeld was "personally involved" in overseeing the interrogation of a Guantanamo prisoner Mohammed al Qahtani. The prisoner was forced to parade naked in front of female interrogators wearing women's underwear on his head and was led around on a leash while being forced to perform dog tricks.

“It is imperative that senior officials who authorized, endorsed, or tolerated the abuse and torture of prisoners be held accountable," Jaffer and Singh write, "not only as a matter of elemental justice, but to ensure that the same crimes are not perpetrated again.”
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