You might want to learn more about the incident from Joby Warrick and Walter Pincus. Then ask yourself, do you know Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya to be reliable? Do you even know who Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya is? Do you know ANYTHING about Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya or Global Research? Nice, authoritative name. Do you know them to be reliable? Or, are you just taking what they say as true, without a real reason?
Missteps in the Bunker
By Joby Warrick and Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 23, 2007; A01
Just after 9 a.m. on Aug. 29, a group of U.S. airmen entered a sod-covered bunker on North Dakota's Minot Air Force Base with orders to collect a set of unarmed cruise missiles bound for a weapons graveyard. They quickly pulled out a dozen cylinders, all of which appeared identical from a cursory glance, and hauled them along Bomber Boulevard to a waiting B-52 bomber.
The airmen attached the gray missiles to the plane's wings, six on each side. After eyeballing the missiles on the right side, a flight officer signed a manifest that listed a dozen unarmed AGM-129 missiles. The officer did not notice that the six on the left contained nuclear warheads, each with the destructive power of up to 10 Hiroshima bombs.
That detail would escape notice for an astounding 36 hours, during which the missiles were flown across the country to a Louisiana air base that had no idea nuclear warheads were coming. It was the first known flight by a nuclear-armed bomber over U.S. airspace, without special high-level authorization, in nearly 40 years.
The episode, serious enough to trigger a rare "Bent Spear" nuclear incident report that raced through the chain of command to Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and President Bush, provoked new questions inside and outside the Pentagon about the adequacy of U.S. nuclear weapons safeguards while the military's attention and resources are devoted to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/22/AR2007092201447_pf.htmlBeyond that, another poster points to the allegedly mysterious deaths at of staff from either Minot or Barksdale, as follows:
Posted by unplugger on Sep 17 2007 5:17AM - Since the Minot story broke a week ago about the missing nukeclandestine operation from Minot, we have the following (for those who are paying attention):
1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots
3. All are now dead (my emphasis)
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents'
http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=10465 http://www.shreveporttimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AI... http://www.kxmc.com/News/161562.asp http://www.kxmc.com/getArticle.asp?ArticleId=140988 http://www.bismarcktribune.com/articles/2007/07/20/news... http://www.komotv.com/news/local/9679367.html Silly me, seeing more than there is to this story.
this stinks to high heaven. it is friggin scary. when i have more time i will check the links to the other people's deaths. but after this first glance it just stinks.
Is this reliable? The news and allegations certainly sound serious and suspicious. However, how do we know that points 1-4 are accurate? Cerainly not by clicking in the links. In fact, clicking in the links casts doubts on (or, outright contradicts)the allegations themselves. I don't know about the rest of you, but I've always thought it was particularly funny when someone makes an allegation, then cites as proof something that actually contradicts thir claim.
1. All six people listed below are from Minot Airforce base?
Wrong. Go to the second link and you'll find 2 of the people were from Barksdale, not Minot. Click on the last link and it describes an officer from Florida, without saying where he was stationed (although it is, in fact, possible he might have been stationed at one of the two bases. However, remember that the claim is that they ALL were from Minot, which we already know is NOT true.
2. All were directly involved as loaders or as pilots?
Question. And we know this how? It isn't mentioned in the articles. And the writer gives us no way to verify this information.
3. All are now dead (my emphasis)?
Well, that much appears to be true. However, does anyone know how many personnel are assigned to Minot and Barksdale AFB's? Are these deaths statistically significant, especially since we do not know for sure that ANY of them were connected to the nuclear incident? For all we know, none of them had anything to do with the incident other than being stationed at one of the two bases. This sounds suspiciously like those lists of dead people attributed to the JFK assassination or to Bill Clinton. And the interesting thing is just about ANYONE can construct such a list without regard for the facts by selectively leaving out information that undermines the central claim.
4. All within the last 7 days in 'accidents'?
This one is the most laughable. The date of the original post (which I assume the DU poster imported) states it is as of 9/12/07. Yet, click on the fourth link and you'll find the story is dated 7/5/07. Maybe my math skills are flawed, but I don't think that's within a week of 9/12/07. Click on the fifth link and the story is dated 7/20/07. That's closer, but it's certainly not within a week of 9/12/07. Beyond that, it appears that most of them did not die all that close to either Minot or Barksdale (with one or two exceptions). Are we supposed to believe the local authorities, none of whom said ANYTHING about foul play whatsoever, are in on the plot? Which gets me to my last point. The original author places the word "accident" in quotation marks to make it sound as if it was anything but. However, not only did none of the local authorities find anything suspicious about any of the deaths, it's reasonable to assume that when it is described thusly: "The two were riding a 2007 Harley-Davidson motorcycle, with the husband driving and the wife the passenger, Chadwick said. "They were traveling behind a northbound Pontiac Aztec driven by Erica Jerry, 35, of Shreveport," Chadwick's release said. "Jerry initiated a left turn into a business parking lot at the same time the man driving the motorcycle attempted to pass her van on the left in a no passing zone. They collided.", it is AN ACCIDENT! In other words, the pair (referring to an AF couple who worked at Barksdale) died when the husband attempted to pass a vehicle turning left in front of them ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE IN A NO PASSING ZONE. What is suspicious about that? Are we supposed to believe the husband (the cause of the crash) was in on the plot to kill them?
My point is not that questions should not be asked and answers sought. Not in the least. However, one of the lures of conspiracy theories is that they seem to "solve the mystery". However, in this case, you can see that it appears to be more supposition and unfounded speculation, as well as rife with factual errors. The other problem with the proponents of conspiracy theories is they decline to apply the same standards of proof to themselves that they demand of the "offical story". We are all better served to uncover the facts and apply logic and ration, rather than just jump to conclusions. Especially when said jumping is later shown to be silly.
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