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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:36 PM
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UK and US play Iraq 'blame game'
Source: bbc

Last Updated: Monday, 29 October 2007, 00:45 GMT

UK and US play Iraq 'blame game'

Both the British and American governments got just about everything wrong in their assumptions about what would follow the fall of Saddam, reports John Ware in the second of two articles linked to a new TV series.

As Iraq has collapsed in bloodshed and chaos, in recent months a "blame game" between London and Washington has been opening up.



At issue is the failure to plan properly for what would follow the invasion.

There was looting and anarchy almost as soon as the statue of Saddam was toppled back in April 2003.

The Americans hadn't prepared for this - even though a power vacuum always follows the overthrow of a regime almost as night follows day. The insurgents soon filled it.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7066500.stm





The bush cabal is to blame ----plain and simple.

Seems like UK does not want to admit a poodle governed for many years!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:40 PM
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1. We will be greeted as liberators any day now
And Iraqi oil will pay all our bills any day now.

bil krystol and rush limbaugh are heading up an elite group of right wing senior fellows to work out the spin for "it will take no more then six months."

If I were the British Parliament I'd tell bush to suck my bloody fish and chips.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:48 PM
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3. Just as soon as they can get roses to grow in depleted uranium soil.
Then they'll have rose petals to throw at our feet.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:47 PM
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2. Who is to blame for lying us into the mess in the first place?!
That is the question. THey are criminals. Mass-murdering criminals.


Everytime I hear or see discussion about planning for the aftermath, I feel like some crafty moving of the goal posts is underway.


Its not about bad planning for what happened after we attacked, its about being lied into the attack in the first place.


The liars should be rounded up and put on trial.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:54 PM
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7. Yes
as one attempts a conversation with a blind bush lemming who says (four years later) that terrible things will happen if we get out of Iraq. When asked why they did not listen when told in 02 that terrible things will happen if we go into Iraq they respond as trained, nobody knew at the time. Yes idiots one and all with their conservative values. I think anyone with conservative values would be prime defendant material for war crimes trials.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:48 PM
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4. rec'd
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:50 PM
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5. We don't play that game in America
Nope, to scan the popular media, the war in Iraq is going okay, if not outright swell. And if there are any minor problems, well, they're pretty sure to be licked into shape in no time at all. And if those problems persist, well, it's really the fault of the dirty fucking hippies who keep pointing them out. And if those minor problems are actually pretty major, well, you're just not supporting the troops, and you want America to lose!

The authors and architects of this fiasco are above reproach, beyond the judgment of mere mortals, and anyone who says otherwise is just itching to be taken down, if not by the administration, then by its henchmen in the popular media.
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:54 PM
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8. Going swell
If the situation in Iraq is going swell, the gods forbid I should ever see it f-d up.
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mlevans Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:52 PM
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6. The bush cabal is to blame ----plain and simple.
The Bush admin may be to blame (I, for one, believe so), but let's not discount Mr. Blair in these calculations of who's at fault. I'm thinking that whether or not Tony was a sincere believer, he did little or nothing to change directions, so his administration must also share the shame. And there's certainly plenty of that to go around.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:58 PM
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10. bush intentionally lied so he could be a war president
I agree that blair is at fault as well, but he would never have taken Britain into Iraq alone, he was only following his buddy bush. I suggest we leave blair's fate to the British and their history books. I suggest it would be much more appropriate to leave bush and his cabal to war crime's courts.
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jordi_fanclub Donating Member (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 02:57 PM
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9. Order, please...there are place to every single one... including POODLES!!!
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WritersBlock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 04:32 PM
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12. I really, really, really, REALLY like that picture! n/t
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-29-07 03:47 PM
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11. Blame game? war would have happened with or without that ass-sniffer Blair
Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 03:48 PM by rAVES
there was no avoiding the the cluster fuck after the fact..
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