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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:44 AM
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The answer is torture. You should have guessed it.


http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002092
by Scott Horton

January 4, 8:32 PM
The Torture President Wields His Veto

President George W. Bush got through his first term without a veto, but now he’s learning to make use of the power the Constitution gives him to veto legislation. Nothing surprising there. But the last veto victim is something of a surprise. Bush vetoed the 2007 Defense Authorizations Act and now he’s rushing Congress back to deal with it.

Why? We all remember those pesky Democrats were threatening timetables, measures against permanent bases and a number of other pieces that drew the White House’s ire. But then, the Democrats folded on everything. They are, after all, “White Flag Democrats.” That’s a point on which their Republican critics, and the overwhelming majority of the U.S. electorate, which wants an end to the war, agree.

So what on earth caused Bush to veto the bill, and thus leave those in Iraq in connection with the war effort without funds in the pipeline? The answer is torture. You should have guessed it.

A number of American veterans who fought in the First Gulf War brought suit against Iraq to be compensated. They all had something in common. They had been captured by Saddam Hussein and had been subjected to torture. They wanted to be compensated from Iraqi Government assets. Senator Frank Lautenberg tried to give them a leg up. He attached an amendment to the defense bill that would allow victims to sue “state sponsors of terrorism” accused of torture. Like Saddam Hussein’s regime. At the time the amendment went up, not a peep was to be heard from the White House. Now, after it was enacted, they say this justifies a veto.

The White House wants us to believe that it ........

VERY good read.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:53 AM
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1. This is the EXACT same shafting our soldiers got after the Bataan Death March
As part of the peace treaty negotiations beween Japan and the US, American POWs who had been tortured or otherwise mistreated by the Japanese were forbidden from seeking redress from the Japanese government - or anyone else, for that matter - for their pain and suffering.

Herr Decider really supports our troops, after all...
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:03 AM
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2. But Why? I Can Understand Bush Protecting His Ass(ets) But WWII?
Was America torturing prisoners of war, or maybe it was all those innocent Americans of Japanese decent that they impoverished and locked up in America's concentration camps? There must have been some exposure, some legal liability....

Sometimes I really hate what my country has done (and against the will of the people).
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