Memo to Senate Democrats: Stop Caving In To Bush!

[ihavenobias]

Senate Democrats are now busy giving away the store to Bush -- again. For what appears to be the one billionth time in a row. They are set to give President Bush yet another victory on the latest FISA bill. They will allow telecommunication companies who broke the law to get away with their crimes (and that is literally what it is -- a crime).

Plus, the public will be denied the opportunity to hear how the Bush administration broke the law because the lawsuits against the telecom companies will not be allowed to go forward in open court.

As usual, there is the speculation on why the Democrats would want to help the Republicans so much. Republicans, for their part, were merciless when there was a Democratic president. So, why are the Democrats such sad, feckless incompetents when it is their turn(?)...

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[TechBear_Seattle]

1. I would have said...

Stop violating your oath to support and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America. Stop collaborating with treason.

[mwb970]

6. The "loyal opposition" refuses to oppose.

It's maddening. Apparently nothing will get them to stand up to bush.

[TechBear_Seattle]

7. When the opposition refused to oppose, do we still have a two party system?

I dare say we do not.

[mwb970]

8. It sure doesn't feel like a two party system.

I see one strong, powerful party representing a small, vocal minority and a weak, ineffective group of people in a coma who are supposed to be a party representing the large, silent majority, but aren't.

It's not that the Dems are the same as the R's, it's that they are comatose and inert, giving a free pass to endless treason, crime, and corruption from the right.

[ihavenobias]

9. Did you read this part? It nails it!

"There are two schools of thought on this. The first is that they make money from the same lobbyists, so they don't want to upset their paymasters. They don't want to rock the boat because they are collaborators in the same corrupt system. In other words, they are paid to be the Washington Generals to the Republican Globetrotters.

That is such a miserably sad scenario, that I will give them the benefit of the doubt, and say we should consider the second option instead. The second possibility is that they are the only people left in the country who still think that anyone gives a shit what George Bush has to say....

If we are to be kind and assume that the Democratic leadership is not deceitful and complicit, then we are left with the unfortunate alternative that they are hopelessly dense. How low does Bush's approval rating have to be before you realize it is to your political advantage to oppose him rather than to bend to his will?

How blind do you have to be to not see that helping Bush makes you look pathetically weak? I don't feel good speaking to our elected leaders this way. I would like to have some respect for these positions. But they make it impossible to respect them.

What's really sad is that they have no idea how much people would love them if they just fought back a little bit. They're too busy trying to get the Republicans, Fox News Channel and the Washington elite to love them. Turn around, your electorate is dying to support you.

Give them a chance and they would back you a 100%. But you make that impossible when you keep supporting the one man everyone else realizes is the least trustworthy person in the country -- George W. Bush."

[mwb970]

10. You're right. That's it exactly.

What's really sad is that they have no idea how much people would love them if they just fought back a little bit.

If the Democrats in Congress would just stand up to bush consistently, their approval (and support, and contributions) would surely go way up. It's crazy. What if, say 10% of the public approved of bush? Can it be that the Dems would still be afraid?

That trick they used to deny bush the opportunity to make destructive recess appointments was good, but needs to be multiplied by a hundred and joined by some major acts of defiance.

[ihavenobias]

12. My question is, how will Hillary and Obama

react to this?

I tried posing this question only to have my thread killed by some jerk (not a jerk because we disagree, it's how he presented himself): http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4196888

[TechBear_Seattle]

13. You really think they will bother to respond?

My, my, my. Imagine: political naivete on this board!

[ihavenobias]

14. No, No, No

There is a difference between *wanting and hoping* that they'll respond (and as I pointed out in that other thread, by respond I mean take the lead on the issue) and actually believing that they will.

They've given me no reason to believe.

[TechBear_Seattle]

15. I sit corrected n/t

[tom_paine]

11. We do not have a two-party system anymore. I dare say you are correct.

They are not incompetent. They know EXACTLY what they are doing.

[Demeter]

2. Boot Harry Reid!

Get somebody who knows how to play politics to win in there.

[Doctor_J]

3. It won't do any good

All the likely successors - Schumer, Durbin, Fineswine, Leahy - seem just as dedicated to appeasement.

[ihavenobias]

4. You really think

that Durbin would be as bad as THIS guy? http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x87421

[AndyA]

5. The Senate Dems have already received that memo a couple of times.

They file it in File 13.

Thanks for writing, and keep those donations coming in!

Love,
Senate Dems

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