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Ronnie Roach Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:47 PM
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Should Bush be penalized for his crimes?
Everybody is giddy about a Clinton or Obama presidency. With all this elation, will this overshadow Bushes crimes and will he and his co-horts will walk away unscathed into the sunset. OK...impeachment is off the table, however, millions of people are dead because of this unject war. Don't we owe the dead some justic? Or are we going to be Christ-like and forgive him? I just curious to see how you feel about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO0_UD94zQA
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:48 PM
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1. Of course, he should be penalized
but I doubt very seriously if he will be.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM
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3. i agree. there is no justice.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:53 PM
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6. The first words out of whomever is elected will be...
Our nation needs to heal... and that will be the excuse for NOT prosecuting BushCo.

Personally, I've never seen a festering wound heal without first having it thoroughly scrubbed out and saturated with antiseptic and the patient given heavy duty antibiotics.

The wound will scab over and scar. Mark my words.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:13 PM
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12. Yes, I imagine it will be Jerry Ford all over again...
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 06:14 PM by Blue_In_AK
...only Bush/Cheney's crimes are so much more egregious than Nixon's. I fully expect them to get away with it, though, and we will be scarred for decades.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM
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2. Yes
Preferably, before he moves to somewhere in South America, where they have no extradition treaty. Frankly, he, his father, and various others are ripe for a war crimes tribunal.
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:30 AM
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18. not a problem, even if he does head to SA
We attacked Panama to get their leader...no problem repeating ..
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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM
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4. To the fullest extent of the law!
A very sick and twisted man that knew full well hundreds of thousands would die. Doesn't care.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM
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5. If there is a serious crime...he and buddies guilty...should do the time...
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:55 PM
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7. WILL he??! is the ? He should and he won't be-he
will leave his office of destruction free as a bird to live out his life.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:57 PM
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8. According to David Swanson, the plan is to go after *
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 05:16 PM by TheDebbieDee
after he leaves office, when he becomes just another private civilian.

If they make a move to impeach or prosecute while he's still pResident, he may enact that Presidential powers thing that gives the moron complete control of the government.

You can read more here:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/davidswanson/337


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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:02 PM
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10. God I hope so.
At a campaign stop, Biden was asked about impeachment and he said that "they" were compiling evidence against Bushco and getting their legal ducks in a row lest any charges be thrown out on technicalities.

I don't know who "they" are, but I hope they're still on this.

Great Britian is investigating Tony Blair's part in misrepresenting the "evidence" that took us into Iraq. I hope they begin trials, and that we follow suit as soon as possible.


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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 04:58 PM
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9. In general
I imagine the Bush presidency will end with massive pardons so the low fruit are going to be untouchable anyways. Nixon never went to jail or stood trial for Cambodia. Reagan or Bush I for Iran-Contra and they didn't have pardon protection. I imagine most leaders find criminally going after the former holder of their office politically pointless, since it only distracts from their current agenda. However they often love releasing, leaking tons of dirt on the former person in charge, particularly if it's embarrassing.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 05:07 PM
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11. Well, the torture of Iraqis and others by itself is a war crime.
Edited on Fri Feb-01-08 05:08 PM by fasttense
Does anyone really think the bushes didn't authorize the torture like water-boarding?

I don't think the Center for Constitutional Rights and Justice will just go away because bush slithers off to Texas or Argentina.

I've been sending money to anyone willing to bring charges against our war criminals.

http://ccrjustice.org/
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:34 PM
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13. Bushdick should be in jail. PERIOD!
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:40 PM
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14. He's a war criminal
He deserves a new rope and a short drop.
Regrettably the best they can do at the Hague is life imprisonment.
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 06:41 PM
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15. The government
should hang him with a new rope!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 07:46 PM
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16. It will not be the job of the new pres; it will be the responsibility of
the US citizens to demand that the crimes be investigated and criminals be tried. The new pres will have her/his hands full just cleaning up the disastrous mess left behind.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 08:53 PM
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17. Penalized?! He should spend the rest of his life breaking rocks in the hot sun
But instead he'll spend it smirking in Dallas.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 01:42 AM
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19. There is no chance that there will be any retribution after he leaves office.
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 01:55 AM by Kablooie
If the new president tries to do something about him it will make some people, and politicians, very unhappy and that would make getting things done much harder.
Whoever becomes president isn't going to do something that will complicate his job. It's going to be hard enough as it is.

Bush and Cheney will leave office 'honorably' and periodically there will be celebrations of his presidency.


and we will all have to suffer these reminders of his glorious reign for the REST OF OUR LIVES!!

Justice is off the table.

And the table will stay that way forever.
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:44 AM
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20. Yes, jail time is called for.
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foxer Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:19 AM
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21. Even bigger problem is he has set "precedent "
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:25 AM
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22. I think if one of our candidates were to say out loud that (s)he intends to
prosecute everyone involved with the war, torture, perjury, the attempted murders of Daschle and Leahy, vote caging, etc., (s)he would really rally the hoi polloi.

Just my 2 cents
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:37 PM
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25. That or be assassinated by bushdick's black bag people.
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Stargleamer Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 10:30 AM
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23. Skip later--he should be in the Hague right now n/t
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Ronnie Roach Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 02:52 PM
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24. What we need is another Nuremberg trial.
Frost of all, most of you had very thoughtful answers. Bush was not just another crooked politician, he had a cabal of cohorts who wanted a neo-feudal empire and used our constitutional Republic for their conniving scheme. In the event we let this user go his merry way, what message would we send to our children? The message that is stated here is, if you have enough money and supporters, you can use the USA government for a conduit for you master plan.
Clinton or Obama must address this issue, other wise, why even have system of Justice? I don't want to appear vengeful like some victim of a political genocide in this world. But we are talking about ethics and morality. Gore Vidal once said: We living in the Unite States of Amnesia. Unquote. By the year 2010, The Bush crime family will be long forgotten, and all the victims of the war will have died in vain. WE SHOULD NOT LET THIS HAPPEN.


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