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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:16 PM
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David Sirota: Clinton Superdelegates Echoing "Screw Democracy" Message
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Clinton Superdelegates Echoing "Screw Democracy" Message
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2008-02-14 16:51. Elections

By DAVID SIROTA, Huffington Post

Looks like Hillary Clinton's campaign machine is getting its superdelegates (aka. party insiders) to start softening up the public for a potential trampling of democracy that may mark the Democratic National Convention. This morning we have two superdelegates from different parts of the country landing headlines in their local papers saying they are fully prepared to ignore voters and trample democracy - as long as that lets them help Clinton potentially steal the Democratic nomination.

Here in Colorado, we get this dispatch from Mannie Rodriguez in the Rocky Mountain News:
Because regular delegates are allocated proportionally, some calculations show that even if Obama
were to roll through the rest of the primary season, he would not be able to secure the nomination
with pledged delegates alone. That could result in a floor fight during the convention - with
superdelegates key to the outcome.

"I'm going to stick to her 100 percent," Rodriguez said. "I hope it doesn't go to superdelgates deciding, but if it does, I'm with her all the way."

Forget that Colorado voters overwhelmingly supported Obama, forget that Obama may win the total, democratically awarded regular delegates...

snip//

Egomania knows no bounds and no loyalty - not even to the founding principles of democracy.
Clinton partisans will counter that we should count the Florida and Michigan delegates because they were supposedly "disenfranchised." What a joke. The candidates agreed not to campaign there, and agreed that the delegates would not be seated. Now, of course, the Clinton partisans want those delegates to count, even though they were banana republic-style elections - no campaigning, and in the case of Michigan, not even anyone other than Clinton on the ballot. Puh-leeze.

To sign a petition demanding superdelegates respect democracy, go here:
http://www.democracyforamerica.com/votersdecide

And make sure to check out the Superdelegate Transparency Project here:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Superdelegate_Transparency_Project

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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:19 PM
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1. GREAT NEW AD THE REAL HILLARY
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:21 PM
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2. Those in areas that went overwhelmingly for Obama should watch out.
When their seats come up for re-election, they might find themselves with a massive grassroots operation to topple them, and put a legitimate democrat in their seats. One that represents the will of the people.

Just Sayin'
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:23 PM
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4. Great point; I hadn't thought of that at all. nt
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:25 PM
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5. I should also note, in some cases, it wouldn't be so bad.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 12:25 PM by Kittycat
I can think of many congress critters that need a little shaking up.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:23 PM
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3. Seen this one coming.
Going to be ... interesting.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:36 PM
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6. I want the SDs to protect the Democratic Party from the
Repubs and Independents that are voting in my primaries.

The Democratic Party nominee should be decided by Democrats.

Go SDs - do your job.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:36 PM
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7. K&R Please sign the petition.
IF this were to happen, and somehow this reminds me of how GWB's team operates, I believe we WILL have a president McCain. I would not be able to vote for Hillary if she so obviously cheated to win, when the voters chose otherwise. I would vote for Hillary if she won the primary fair and square (and the same goes for Obama in both cases), but not if she tries to seat the delegates from Florida and Michigan, and the superdelegates don't vote with the people's choice. I would write my choice in.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM
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8. 1984........here we go again
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 12:38 PM by DJ13
Mondale lost the majority of primaries to Hart but won the nomination due to his super delegate count putting him over the top.

Mondale lost in November (he sucked as a candidate, no personality. Sound familiar?) in a landslide.

Does this Party ever learn to run their best candidate over the one with "experience" (read as: insider)........?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:40 PM
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9. Good find....hope you don't mind but I put this thread's link
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 12:41 PM by snappyturtle
on another in General Discussion: Primaries....will be back to give the link to it. K&R

edit:http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4586976
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:03 PM
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12. You can do whatever you want with anything I post; info is free! nt
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:48 PM
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10. If the SD's do this again - manipulating their person rather than ours - I'm outta here.
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 12:50 PM by higher class
And I just don't mean DU. I will become one of those people who can't find New York on a map. Live out the rest of my life with no political hope for the country.

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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 12:59 PM
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11. this storm has been brewin'-full blown tornado shortly
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 01:37 PM
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13. K & R
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