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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:30 PM
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David Sirota: The Issue That Could Decide the Democratic Nomination and the General Election
The Issue That Could Decide the Democratic Nomination and the General Election

Posted by David Sirota, Open Left at 9:49 AM on February 23, 2008.

It's NAFTA stupid.


None of us likes being lied to by politicians, and not just because being lied to is insulting, but because when a lie comes from a politician, it suggests that none of their promises should be believed. As my new nationally syndicated newspaper column shows, this is precisely what is going on in the presidential race when it comes to trade and globalization policy - key policies as the race heads into the working-class bastions of Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

It would be one thing if Hillary Clinton was admitting that yes, she vigorously supported NAFTA, but that support was misguided. But no, as the column shows, Clinton is now trying to convince voters she never supported the North American Free Trade Agreement - the trade model whose lack of labor, human rights and environmental standards made it a tool for Big Business to ship jobs abroad. Not only is she claiming to be a longtime opponent of the deal, but she's actually trotting out former Clinton administration officials-turned-corporate-lawyers like Mickey Kantor - the very architects of the deal - to tell us that behind closed doors she really wasn't for NAFTA. Shocker - these are the same hacks who have lashed their careers to Clinton's campaign in hopes of getting back their White House jobs.

The strategy assumes that the media will simply report this revisionist history as fact, and worse, that Americans who have been crushed by this unfair trade policy are a bunch of idiots. We are simply supposed to ignore the speeches she made telling us what a great success NAFTA was, including the one where she traveled to Davos, Switzerland to give a speech in which she thanked corporate interests for mounting "a very effective business effort in the U.S. on behalf of NAFTA" (that's a direct quote from her mouth). And the lying is about the best indicator that all her rhetoric promising a new trade policy under a Hillary Clinton presidency would be tossed out the window when she got to the White House - much like Bill Clinton's 1992 campaign promises to oppose NAFTA and China PNTR were tossed out the window when he was inaugurated president.

But now, Barack Obama is picking up where John Edwards left off and is reminding folks of the real history, promising to get serious on trade, and consequently the polls in Ohio appear to be closing.

Though Obama is certainly not as aggressive on the issue as some of us would like, the rhetoric is encouraging in that he sees his political opportunity in standing with progressives. That means if he manages to win on this message, he will have begun the process of building a real public mandate to reform our broken trade policy - a mandate that he will be under enormous pressure to respect and fulfill as president.

More broadly, no matter which candidate you may be for, the dynamic is positive for anyone wanting to see a serious reform of our trade policies. As the column shows, Republican and Democratic voters overwhelmingly oppose our current trade policies, and the old neoliberal triangulation of the Clinton machine - the one that ran "over the dead bodies" of workers when it came to trade policy - is finally being exorcised from the Democratic Party. That will ultimately bring us closer to the fair trade policy our country desperately need.

more...

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/77580/#more
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:31 PM
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1. Blah blah blah. Must have been desperate to make the deadline.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:33 PM
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2. Get real; you didn't even read it, so why bother commenting, with
all that knowledge you're sharing? :eyes:
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OrrenBoyle Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:35 PM
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3. When the GOP called the Clintons "liars" we refused to listen.

Well, I can't turn on a dime like that. I still refuse to believe they are lying.

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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:42 PM
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4. Orren, I saw you here earlier.
You're bu__ ugly. Please leave!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:47 PM
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5. Sirota is right on. NAFTA is what will decide Ohio, and Clinton is lying.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 08:57 PM
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6. NAFTA and the IWR never happened
Lets all just think happy thoughts about the past 15 years. No need to go back and revisit mistakes and actually *gasp* hold people accountable for them!

:sarcasm: <~~in case it wasn't obvious.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:05 PM
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7. Sirota elects to ignore statements by Andrea Mitchell, NBC
A Greenspan, Bernstein, These reports were out there as the
Campaign opened.

Hilary did not support Nafta. As first lady she could not
run around shouting out against her husband.

Some people do not want to know the truth. Obama is just another
politician. Promote a lie to benefit himself. What is new.



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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:08 PM
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8. She supported NAFTA when it suited her:
Though Clinton argued on Saturday that the agreement was negotiated by the George W. Bush Administration, Obama laid responsibility squarely with the Clintons for the trade agreement squarely with the Clintons for the trade agreement, which is deeply unpopular here.

“Let’s be clear: It was her husband who got NAFTA passed. In her own book, Senator Clinton called NAFTA one of ‘Bill’s successes’ and ‘legislative victories,’” Obama said, referring to her memoir, Living History.

Speaking to a town hall meeting of manufacturing workers at a gypsum wallboard plant near Cleveland, Obama also cited a 2004 statement in which Clinton said, “I think, on balance, NAFTA has been good for New York and America.”

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/obama_keeps_nafta_pressure_on.html#more
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:10 PM
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9. Then why did she write in her book that NAFTA was one of the best accomplishments
of the administration?

He was already out of office -- she could have taken that opportunity to speak out with her "true" feelings then.

So why didn't she -- but instead praised it?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:21 PM
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10. You can think your husband had accomplishments and not
agree with a policy within the accomplishments.

Unless you only think in absolutes.--- GWB is great with absolutes.
yer with us or agin us.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:19 PM
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11. Maybe Bill should apologize to the country and to Ohio and Michigan. etc.
His views are still important as he would be advising Hillary if she wins.

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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 10:42 PM
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12. Obama supported NAFTA as well. Both have been moved in a more populist direction--
--by Kucinich and Edwards.
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