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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:09 PM
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'Islamists Want To Destroy Everything The West Holds Dear'
By HERB KEINON AND DAVID HOROVITZ

The success of Hamas and Hizbullah in the region is not only a danger for Israel, but also a threat to US national interests, US Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Tuesday in an exclusive interview with The Jerusalem Post.

"If Hamas/Hizbullah succeeds here, they are going to succeed everywhere, not only in the Middle East, but everywhere. Israel isn't the only enemy," Arizona Sen. McCain said, in the only interview he is giving to the Israeli media during his visit here.

"They are dedicated to the extinction of everything that the US, Israel and the West believe and stand for. So America does have an interest in what happens here, far above and beyond our alliance with the State of Israel."

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McCain's toughest talk, however, was reserved for Teheran, which he said unequivocally was pursuing nuclear weapons - remarks that were at odds with last year's controversial US National Intelligence Estimate.

"I think Iran is a threat to the region," McCain said, adding that not only were the Iranians "obviously pursuing nuclear weapons," they were also arming and training extremists to send into Iraq, supporting Hizbullah and influencing Syria.

"At the end of the day, we can still not afford to have Iran with nuclear weapons," he said. "We know they have ambitions that are not just aimed at the State of Israel."

---EOE---

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1205420721834&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:12 PM
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1. translation: "I'm old; i'm running out of time;....
this might be my last opportunity to get involved in a war...

and i won't get to win a war unless i'm in one."
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:18 PM
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2. Jeeze. How horrible is it when people make you wish someone
would get struck by lightening or hit by a bus or come down with a quick acting fatal illness?

Dammit. These people are jeopardizing my immortal soul. (And all you anti-religion people, just save it. I don't care what you believe, leave my beliefs alone as well.)
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:24 PM
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3. and vice versa, to be fair...
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:47 PM
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5. Yes, we want to destroy the 7th century mindset towards women.
The forced marriages, honor killings and blood money rapes.I see no problem with that. If you love radical Islamic customs, I am sure there is a place for you.....10 feet behind the man who owns you.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:29 PM
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7. indeed, I'm not denying it
Edited on Wed Mar-19-08 01:32 PM by librechik
begone, mediaeval attitudes, whatever religion and culture you are attached to--and take your paraphernalia -and bloodlust--with you
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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:13 PM
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8. Impose
your values on another culture,shame on you.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:57 PM
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10. So you support forced marriages, honor killing and blood money rapes.
How progressive of you. Shame on you. Poser.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 02:32 PM
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9. I call bullshit.
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 12:30 PM
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4. But it's totally OK for Cheney to be best buddies with Islamist Sultan from Oman
the hypocricy of these assholes...

when will Obama announce war crimes tribunals for anyone that supported torture including mccain / bush / cheney / rice..

when will we see justice in this country?
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 01:28 PM
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6. And I want to King of England.
Doesn't mean it's going to happen or is even possible.

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Deny and Shred Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 03:17 PM
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11. Funny,I bet most in the Middle East believe the reverse about the U.S.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 06:06 PM
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12. BushCo Wants To Destroy Everything America Holds Dear
and to a large extent, already has. He's in the mopping up phase, getting the crumbs out of the empty cookie jar.
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crankychatter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 09:45 PM
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13. The United States Loves Despotism
As long as they do what we say and benefit us financially.

If we cherry pick despotic nations to wage war on based upon natural resources they have, that we'd like to extract or control...

then... well, we're bloody lying hypocrites.

Israel is exercising jackbooted tyranny over Palestine... perhaps we should invade them and initiate a regime change... nah... they have no oil and do what we tell them... or is that the other way around?

I don't remember... I'll just quit thinking and parrot the opinions of multi-million dollar think tanks.... fact based reasoning is way too much work.
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FightTheRight89 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-19-08 11:04 PM
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14. Well yeah.
Everything McCain said here is correct.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 07:12 AM
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16. If that is case
then why are Republican policies increasing islamic fundamentalism directly and indirectly?

(Even to the point that Bush's associates in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are linked to the 9/11 money trail).
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FightTheRight89 Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 10:20 AM
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17. Because they make stupid decisions.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:47 AM
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15. Where does the quote
'Islamists want to destroy everything the West holds dear' come from? Is it an actual quote from someone, a 'handy' headline, or what?

It is very dangerous because it is so foolish and wrong. Who the heck are 'Islamists?'
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 05:58 PM
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18. Who the hell knows
Could be a Coptic Christian from Ethiopia, shoot first, ask questions later. But HOW could "we" have KNOWN? After all his skin color was just a tiny bit darker than OURS!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-20-08 06:42 PM
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19. Its used as the headline of a controversial posting.
and we should know where it comes from.

What's an 'Islamist?'

Does it refer to all Muslims?

Its highly inflammatory.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 08:17 AM
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20. Agreed.
But what is even more galling is the racist reduction of Muslims to a monolith menace to the world.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 01:21 PM
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21. That's my point;
taking advantage of general ignorance of Islam, and of the people who have adopted it, of their cultures, and so on, well, ignorance seems always to serve someones' interest.

Peace
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 02:27 PM
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22. how exactly are stateless organizations with no conventional military assets a threat to us?
At worst, terrorists could pull off a 9/11 scale event once every couple of years, but each time they do, they will make it more difficult to do the next one (as the Shoe Bomber learned when he tried to light his foot).

They do not have the capability to take over the United States even if we did absolutely nothing (which I do not advocate).

When will Democrats start calling bullshit on the War on Terror and point out that to the extent al Qaeda exists, it is manned and funded by our good friends the Saudis, and in Afghanistan it operated in the past with the cooperation of the Pakistani government.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-21-08 03:08 PM
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23. AND the CIA!!!
;-)
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