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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:34 AM
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I’m Not Ready to Make Nice - Sea Shepherd response to Canadian Government
Commentary by Captain Paul Watson
Founder and President of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society
(printed in full with permission of Sea Shepherd)


As the Dixie Chicks said, “I’m not ready to make nice.”

I have no apologies for defending the seals from their killers. Bullies are notorious for whining like victims when the tables are turned.

Apparently, the sealers and the Canadian government are upset with me for making the following statement:

The Sea Shepherd Conservation Society recognizes that the deaths of four sealers is a tragedy but Sea Shepherd also recognizes that the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of seal pups is an even greater tragedy.

“One of the sealers was quoted as saying that he felt absolutely helpless as he watched the boat sink with sealers onboard,” said Captain Paul Watson. “I can’t think of anything that defines helplessness and fear more than a seal pup on the ice that can’t swim or escape as it is approached by some cigarette smoking ape with a club. This is a seal nursery and these men are sadistic baby killers and that might offend some people but it is the unvarnished truth – they are vicious killers who are now pleading for sympathy because some of their own died while engaged in a viciously brutal activity.”

I’ve been asked to apologize, and I’ve been accused of being insensitive. A reporter from Halifax who I spoke with today was very angry and kept asking me how I dared to equate the lives of humans with the lives of seals. “These are animals,” he said. “Yes, and from what I remember from my biology classes, we are animals also,” I replied.

The following statement was issued by Canadian Fisheries Minister Loyola Hearn:

By attacking and trivializing the memory of these men who tragically lost their lives, Mr. Watson has proven to the world that he is gutless, shameless, and has not one shred of human decency. His lust for media coverage knows no bounds.

On behalf of the Government of Canada, I want to once again express our condolences to the family and loved ones of these sealers.

Our government has said that it will stand up for the safety and security of sealers, and I want to confirm that the militant actions of the Sea Shepherd Society have not gone unnoticed are currently under investigation.

It is difficult to seriously accept criticisms of insensitivity from men who bash in the skulls of baby seals, and I have to say that the opinion of Canada’s Minister of Fisheries means very little to me. After all I did not kill those men – the Canadian government did.

It was Hearn who authorized the use of unsafe vessels to kill seals. It was his government’s direct incompetence that resulted in the deaths of the four sealers. So Hearn’s statement about standing up for the safety and security of the sealers is hollow to say the least.

When did documenting the slaughter of seals become a militant action?

I do not trivialize the death of these men by saying that the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of sentient beings is a greater tragedy. I deplore the fact that government incompetence resulted in the death of four sealers, but it is the same incompetence that has resulted in the collapse of the fisheries, and it is Hearn's political ambitions that continue to support and subsidize an industry that has no place in the 21st Century.

If expressing condolences to the families of the sealers helps Hearn to sleep at night, then so be it. The fact is that these men died because of the government of Canada, and I expect and anticipate that it will attempt to make Sea Shepherd the scapegoat for its incompetence.

The oldest political trick in the book is to deflect criticism by focusing hatred onto another party. Hitler did it with the Jews, and Hearn is trying to do the same with us.

This is not anything new. The Canadian government has been using seal defenders as a distraction for years. By getting east coast fishermen to hate environmentalists and animal defenders, it can reduce criticism of the notorious management problems that caused the total collapse of the cod fishery.

I find it amusing that the sealers expect me to be “sensitive” to their feelings. This bunch of men on the Magdalen Islands beat the crap out of me in 1995. Thirty of them jumped me in my hotel room, but then that is to be expected from bullies. I did manage to take two of them down with a stun gun before falling before their fists and boots, but that day I was very “sensitive” to their feelings--I felt every blow.

In 2005, the sealers attacked and assaulted my crew on the ice, striking them with sealing clubs, destroying cameras and spilling our blood onto the ice. Not one of them was charged, despite the entire assault being documented on camera, because the Royal Canadian Mounted Police said that we had “provoked” them by opposing their killing of seals.

Today I received the following message from a man who described himself as a Newfoundland sealer:

Hi Mr. Watson,

I was appalled by your lack of sympathy for the loss of the human lives last week as those sealers lost everything when they drowned in those frigid waters!!

Environmentalists like you make me sick!! Your total lack of respect for human life and your overly protective attitude towards animals is indicative of how extremists like you want to control things. I am a well educated man from Newfoundland currently living in Atlantic Canada and I support the seal hunt, I support the seal fur trade!! There is no greater pleasure than clubbing a baby seal and feeling that skull collapsing and watching them trying to crawl away and then smacking the little shits again. It ideally should be accomplished in one blow but sometimes it takes two or even three!! Hey all the little bastards do is eat fish and defecate so we are getting rid of animals that do more to destroy ecosystems of fish than are actually contributing to more stable ecosystems. Besides seal meat tastes great and the fur is warm. Baby seal meat is exceptionally good!!

You're no better than the animals you protect and I for one will never support any organization which you are affiliated with.

Good day to you "Mr." Watson

Gene Kelly

I especially like the compliment that he gave me with the last line. That is the entire point. We are no better than the animals, and their lives do count, and I have no apologies for saying that the slaughter of 325,000 seals is a greater tragedy than the deaths of four seal killers.

I did not say that their death was not a tragedy. Of course it is, and the government of Canada should answer for it, but it must be remembered that the 325,000 seal pups are innocent sentient beings minding their own business, helpless on the ice, new to the world, viciously assaulted, clubbed, shot, skinned alive in some cases, kicked, and slashed.

The men who died chose to be out on the ice in inferior vessels. They made the choice to be sadistic killers. Was I being insensitive to the families of the men with that statement? Possibly so, but then I have seen a mother seal grieving for days over the skinned frozen carcass of her pup. I have seen mother seals attempt to nurse their dead baby, and none of these images have caused the sealers to feel any pity or remorse.

I have been accused of not being sensitive to the way of life of fishing families, yet I was raised in an east coast Canadian fishing village myself, and as a child, I bore witness to the brutality of fishermen killing seals, shooting at dolphins and whales, torturing sea birds, and tossing garbage and oil into the sea. I don’t respect commercial fishermen in general, because I have seen first hand what they have done, and I have witnessed their incredible arrogance in believing they have the right to do whatever they wish, whenever they wish, to any creature they wish.

Yes, I am sure there are a few exceptions, but generally, commercial fishermen are an ecological menace. The oceans of the world have been systematically devastated over the last few generations, and both life and diversity have been greatly diminished. We are now fighting last stands against poachers in marine reserves, national parks, international sanctuaries, and World Heritage sites. And we are losing. The onslaught of humanity--with such vast numbers, such voracious appetites, such efficient technology, and such vicious ruthlessness--coupled with overall human apathy is destroying the very planet upon which we live. So it is hard for me to be “sensitive” to the feelings of fishermen just because four of them died while raping the sea.

We at Sea Shepherd merely report on what we see, and during the last week we have seen and video-taped a seal pup being skinned alive. We have seen seal pups thrashing about in agony on the ice as their blood is splattered across the floes with every convulsion of their young bodies. We have seen a seal pup trying to escape its killer with an eyeball dangling from its socket, trailing a stream of blood, searching desperately for protection or a place to run to. Unable to swim, unable to escape, unable to defend itself--this is the very definition of helplessness.

There are those who are appalled at any comparison between human lives and the lives of other animals. There are even a few ignorant people who deny that humans are also animals. There are those who feel that humans are divine, special, superior, or the only animals with emotions, souls, and capable of thought and reasoning. They are wrong.

During the years that I have traveled to the ice floes, I have noticed that all of these baby seals have different personalities. They display curiosity, they express fear, some are docile, and others very animated. They are individual sentient beings, and their lives are as sacred--as meaningful and as important as ours.

Humans forget that without diversity we could not survive. We ignore the fact that our voracious appetites have cut a swath of death and destruction throughout the oceans, from which they will never recover. Every commercial fishery is in a state of collapse. More marine mammals are going extinct and will go extinct in our generation than we have lost since the Jurassic period some sixty-five million years ago.

A report said today that I should issue an apology to the sealers for equating their lives with those of the seals.

I will not.

I have acknowledged that the loss of the four sealers from the Magdalen Islands is a tragedy. But I insist that the cruel and remorseless on-going slaughter of 325,000 seals is a greater tragedy.

This is not a seal “hunt.” There is no stalking, no outwitting of the prey, no danger from the animal, and no challenge in shooting and clubbing seal pups that can’t escape or swim. This is a cold and merciless slaughter that has no place in the civilized world.

http://www.seashepherd.org/editorials/editorial_080404_1.html
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 08:38 AM
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1. Death on the Ice - poem by Paul Watson


Death stalks the ice every Spring
Over the floes, death does sing,
A baby killer rampage
Drunk with hate and screaming rage
Clubs crushing delicate skulls
Eyeballs plucked by squabbling gulls
Blood steaming on hardened ice
Victims of men not so nice
Innocence savaged for gold
Murdered - only three weeks old
Hundreds of thousands dying
Grieving mother seals crying
The politicians lying
The fashion houses buying
The sealers drinking cheap booze
From their pores, cruelty does ooze
Humanity cast aside
Innocent cries they don’t hear
Seal pups look up without fear
Watching as that club does fall
Hot blood splattered on the floes
Victims of raw ruthless blows
Mothers grieving in great pain
Over babies cruelly slain

Four sealers perished this year
Ending their grisly career
Cast into the frozen sea
Unable to let it be
Karma is a bitch you see
Oh poor, poor, pitiful, me
They cry and moan and they wail
Life is balanced on a scale
Four deaths is a tragedy
The government strategy
Is to confuse and distract
Turning white to red and black
Four martyred baby killers
Sanctified serial killers
Hundreds of thousands lie dead
Upon the cold ice, they bled
The silence of lambs so cold
Each with a story untold

Sea Shepherds strive to protect
Using actions most direct
Defending lambs on the ice
The Coast Guard ramming us twice
Saving lives is not a vice
Virtue is not always nice
Rock the boat is what we do
No need for seal flipper stew
Politicians need scapegoats
Whoring for convenient votes
Sacrificing sealing boats
Killing men to make a point
Using hatred for their aims
Playing political games

Hot blood on the cold hard ice
Cold death delivered to Christ
Crucifixes marked in blood
Men drowned in the frigid flood
Lambs of God screaming in pain
On the ice, the scarlet stain
Waiting for the cleansing rains
To cleanse the stench from our brains
Will this slaughter never end?
Will maple trees ever bend?

Canada, My native land
True north weak and far from grand
Patriotic hatred reigns
Flag blood red with deathly stains
I hang my head in deep shame
For being part of this game.

Heaven is the seals on ice
Hell is Humanity’s vice
A place of innocence born
Transformed into snuff film porn
For years, I’ve weathered the storm
My heart both battered and torn
Seals and men dying for pride
The government has lied
Dying for sheer vanity
Dying for insanity
On the floes dark death does walk
The reaper threatens the flock
As Sea Shepherds we must stand
Opposing death from the land
No surrender, no retreat
As death around us does creep
Gratitude is in their eyes

Nature’s laws are surely wise
Karma will repay our sins
Deadly price for all those skins
Gentle seal pups in the snow
Without any chance to grow
King Herod killed the new born
Hearn also kills the new born
Children or seals it’s the same
Horror and death is the game
Shameful sins of the sealers
Their hearts immune to healers
Agents of dark death walking
The politicians talking
The baby harp seals dying
Media blurred with lying
The story never gets straight
To much confusion and hate
Only one thing is certain

Death lies behind the curtain
Upon a scarlet ice stage
Exposing Canada’s rage
Time will tell if we can win
Ending this horrific sin
Our hope is in Europe’s vote
It can breach the sealer’s moat
To silence death on the ice
That would be so very nice




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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:14 AM
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2. Thank you, Captain Watson, for standing tall against the cruel inhumanity of MAN.
We are a despicable animal and will undoubtedly soon bring about our own demise.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 10:21 AM
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3. Fuck you, Paul Watson. You are a disgusting LIAR.
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 10:52 AM by AlertLurker
Your response was unnecessary and despicable. Sealers in NO WAY are "cruel and remorseless," "sadistic killers" who "rape the sea." You are disgustingly full of SHIT. Baby seals DO NOT have "personalities." To equate the death of people with the death of seal is just SICK, period. Your films are badly and obviously spliced and full of intentional contextual and factual errors. There are valid REASONS that even GreenPeace won't have anything to do with the likes of you. You are very lucky to have escaped St. Pierre without injury yeaterday, you hopeless fuckwad.

"The oldest political trick in the book is to deflect criticism by focusing hatred onto another party." You DISGUSTING HYPOCRITICAL ASSHOLE. Is this why you are taking out your hatred of the Canadian government on four sealing families? I pray that the icebreaker scuttles you next time you bump into her, you slime-encrusted asshole.

Come on back to the Bay this summer, you fucked-up piece of shit - we'll give you the same warm reception we gave you last time, you hideous fucktard. You think that Islanders were pissed off LAST SUMMER? Maybe we'll manage to sink that garbage scow you so badly pilot, next time. Maybe that will actually get your slimey ass off your ship this time, you decrepit old COWARDLY SHEEPFUCKER.



Seal meat tastes yummy. It is more incredibly nutricious and more full of protein and essential vitamins than almost any other animal. Atlantic Fur Seals are nowhere CLOSE to being endangered - in fact, fishermen DownEast have been calling for a second or expanded cull for fucking DECADES. Seal fur is soft and durable and warm and waterproof in a way that almost no other fur is. It's an absolutely useful hunt, an absolutely NECESSARY hunt for those involved, where pretty near EVERYTHING about the seal is used.

There are HUNDREDS of hunts of other animals around the world FAR LESS humane than the annual seal cull off Newfoundland. I have witnessed several seal hunts, and my father and brothers have participated in several. I have never seen ANYONE go out of their way to do anything intentionally cruel to a seal pup. Not ONCE - in 30 years. In 30 years I have never witnessed pups being "viciously assaulted," "skinned alive," "kicked," or "slashed." I have seen many shot and clubbed myself. It is HUMANE. They are only clubbed if the first shot is not fatal. They are only gaffed when they are dead in the water and in danger of sinking. There is nothing "cold and merciless" about it. There is a lot ceremonial about it that you refuse to see and so have never seen, either. There is no difference between the anuual humane culling of seals than of caribou. Caribou are pretty easy to kill, too, remember? My people have culled both, successfully, for generations.

Mind your own fucking business, you callous piece of shit - But hey - as I said - come on back to the Rock again this summer, you slimey piece of regurgitated shit...be assured, many sealers anxiously await your return.

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Myoho Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 11:45 AM
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4. What part of Thou Shalt Not Kill
do you not understand?

I fully support the Sea Shepherd Society, and because of your post will be cutting them a check for $500 today.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:28 AM
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8. Support whatever hateful asshole you want. It's a free country.
The fuckwit more than likely needs the cash to fix his garbage scow after being quite publicly stoned and kicked out of port in St. Pierre...
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:26 PM
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6. He is minding his business
Edited on Sat Apr-05-08 07:27 PM by Annces
The business of caring for animals and the seas. What do you care about, other than your own self and your family. Have you watched any of the videos on the slaughter. It surely is inhumane.

Baby seals do have personalities. There is a giant level of difference between you and people who love and cherish animals for their own sake. You are on a lower level and so are the sealers.
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AlertLurker Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 08:33 AM
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9. I have watched in person. For over 30 years, I watched.
I'm not going to explain myself to someone who actually believes I have less right to life than MEAT and CLOTHING.

You are an earlobe. I say this only because an asshole actually HAS a function.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:49 PM
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11. You are MEAT and CLOTHING.
That is all.

Being a capitalist commodity item yourself, you have no right to anything your employers don't permit you to have. And as the market continues to shrink for seal pelts, your talent for clubbing small seals (as opposed to the larger kind that can inflict some damage on you before they're shot) won't even entitle you to a living wage.

Meat and clothing. That's it.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 02:27 PM
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12. "They are only clubbed if the first shot is not fatal."
Back in the '70s, I went with some Alaskan Native friends of mine to the Pribilof Islands and watched them make a living hunting seals. Not just for subsistence, for a summer paycheck.

During the entire summer, no one ever clubbed a baby seal. Not one. The babies and their mothers were off-limits in the hunt. This wasn't their employer's rules, these were the rules of hunting passed down to them by their parents and grandparents.

Not because they couldn't bear to whack those cute little baby seals senseless, but so they would have more seals to whack senseless five years down the road. It was a business and survival decision.

It was also out of self respect. Because isolated baby seals can't fight back against a man with a club, killing a baby seal wasn't considered by their community to be the act of a hunter. They considered it to be the act of a coward, a wuss.

They also didn't shoot first and club later. They did it with skill and self-respect - they approached adult seals (the kind that could take a large chunk of your leg with one bite) and killed them humanely with one expert blow on the upper part of their spine. No seal ever cried out when they were killed, it was too quick. Seals were shot *only* if they were too injured during the chase to move. And at point-blank range, not from fifty feet away.

I've met many fine people in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia, but I also saw a tendency for people there to blame the government for the lack of cod out in the Grand Banks, or the lack of shellfish in the Bay of Fundy. Amazingly, their argument was that government regulations on their harvest caused the demise of their stocks. Like when Wall Street bankers say that they would be able to preserve the system better if they were only allowed to exploit it more.

And when the seal population suffers the same fate, I'm sure people like you will offer the same old b.s. complaints against your government. Blaming everyone for your own acts except yourselves.

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giuditta Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:05 AM
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14. you are disgusting
cruel mass slaughter of hundreds of thousands of harp seal pups will be ended.
75,000 harp seals to be killed, 5,000 higher than last year, without any scientific justification and without any market justification

The slaughter of seals is grossly inhumane.
The slaughter of the seals is a threat to the survival of the harp seal species.
The slaughter of the seals is a threat to the marine eco-system of the North Atlantic.
The slaughter of the seals is not sustainable.
The seal slaughter is a glorified welfare system, a barbaric industry subsidized by the Canadian tax-payer.

Seal pups have been filmed suffering in agony on the ice after being clubbed, stabbed, shot or kicked by sealers.

SHAME!!!!!!

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Syntheto Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 01:19 PM
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5. Those were men with families who died; human beings...
...we all may be 'animals', but men built that ship you pilot, not baby seals. Men pay taxes, form governments, take photographs, operate computers, grow food, write poetry and paint photographs. Tell the children of the men that died that their father's had it coming to them for slaughtering cute, and above all, photogenic baby seals. Yes, it's disgusting, but to gloat publicly over the deaths of HUMAN BEINGS because of the way they have to make their living is beyond the pale. What if their was a group of people who made their living from slaughtering baby giant cockroaches? I doubt if anybody would give two cents for that. They're not very photogenic and don't make good poster material. What about the Australians having to kill rabbits and kangaroos that, if left unchecked, cause terrible environmental damage, and yes, problems for the sheep and cattle industries there? The language the so-called 'first officer' and 'captain' of this boat have chosen to use, with all it's flowery, uneven 'we're the victims here' line is tiresome. They heroically strove to nobly save precious, innocent baby seals from those, dastardly, evil sealers.' Oh, please, give me a break. Maybe it's because they're white, working class French speakers for the most part, without the benefit of what passes for a higher liberal arts education and so therefore, they're fair game. I would like to see what would happen if Africans or some Indios in Terra del Fuego were slaughtering baby penguins. I am sure that this noble ship's "Captain" would be down there protecting the defenseless little birds, while using the same, insulting and inflammatory rhetoric, whenever a boatload of people drowned. I see nothing but racism, class ism, and contempt for a particular population of human beings. I hope that they develop those submerged methane fields up in the North Atlantic, and give those people up in Labrador and the other maritime Provinces an opportunity to do something else to make a living. People that donate money to these people should ask themselves how the innocent children that are left behind are going to live without their dad. I'm sorry, but a cute, innocent three-year human toddler means a lot more to me than a wild animal. Flame on, 'cause I know it's coming, and that tells you a lot about some 'progressives' priorities. I can't let this stand unanswered, though, because I have mine.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-05-08 07:30 PM
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7. Men build ships, men pay taxes
So what. Humans are given the gift of life, not the gift to take life whenever they want for whatever reason. There are natural laws regarding the taking of life. If it is done callously and without need, you are breaking the laws of nature. Humans cannot continue on devasting the earth at the rate we are and Sea Shepherd is taking the heat for trying to stop the devastation. If we do survive it will be because we have changed and act in accordance with the balance required to live with nature.

P.S. Humans cannot create animals, or any kind of life.
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Cronopio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 01:12 PM
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10. "Men pay taxes, form governments, take photographs, operate computers ..."
Edited on Sun Apr-06-08 01:18 PM by OmelasExpat
... commit genocide on its own species, deplete the environmental resources its species, and all other species, depend on for survival, poisons its own environment its children and grandchildren will depend on for their survival, rip off taxpayers for private and corporate gain, form laws that enslave entire nations under the yoke of debt for generations, and so on.

And all for the same rationale that you use to barter and commodify sentient life - to make a buck.

If you're going to tell your children the truth, tell them the whole story, Syntheto. That there are many men on this planet that look at your children no differently than you look at a baby seal. Why? Because it makes it easier for them to do what they need to do to make a buck. Just makin' a livin'.

So, by your own rationale, it's *all good*.

Seals, on the other hand, don't kill their own species unless they collectively consume more fish than the ocean can provide. For millions of years, they've kept that pact with Mother Nature. They've been good citizens of the planet.

It's good those little harmless baby seals aren't civilized like us, huh?


Oh, and Annces - well said. :hi:
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-06-08 03:50 PM
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13. It warms the cockles of my heart
to see an intelligent post defending life, animals in this case. I get so emotional sometimes with people who have cruelty in their hearts, I don't always know a good way to respond. But your posts are a breeze of fresh air. Thanks Omelas.

:hi:
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Syntheto Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:44 AM
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15. First of all...
I don't need to tell my children anything...I work in the Midwest of America and my job doesn't require me to kill any sort of animal, for which I'm thankful. It's a big joke in my family that if I was a farmer/rancher, I would go broke because all of the animals would have names and live in the house with us. If I lived where these people do, then maybe my job options would be more limited.

Secondly, I am in no way advocating the killing of any animals.

Third, several of the sealers were killed, drowned and presumably crushed when the Royal Canadian Coast Guard Cutter towed their stranded vessel over ice and it keeled over and several HUMAN BEINGS were killed.

My question was what are you going to tell the children of those PEOPLE? Especially when they read the abusive, inflammatory and insulting rhetoric that people like this have publicly said concerning the deaths of those MEN. Do you think that is going to change the attitude of those left behind? Will a child now grow up in that village thinking: "I'll starve before I kill a baby seal, because my evil father died because he killed them; that wonderful, brave and noble captain of the Sea Shepherd said so"?

Read my whole post, because I have the impression that you haven't done so. Nowhere in your post do you address anything of what I said.

Do you think that fur-bearing seals have more rights than people? Do the children of the men that were killed rather horribly deserve sympathy? Don't the family of the men who were killed deserve a little respect? Do you really think that it is acceptable for those kids and the grandparents to read that their fathers and sons deserved what they got because they're evil sealers who brutally bludgeon defenseless little seals to death?

That is what my post was about. How would you react if the Canadian Coast Guard was pulling the Sea Shepherd out of a tight spot when it was dead in the water and some of the crew were drowned? Would you call for an investigation? What would you think if the locals up there, French Speaking whites with little more than a high school education, gloated on their websites and said that those crew that died "got what they deserved"?

Finally, why do you have to bring up only the bad that humans are capable of? What about architecture, submarines, space craft, satellites, any again, poetry, movies, and even blogging?

There is no Mother Nature, Gaia or any other sort of god or spirit. But, there are people, actual human beings who need to come to a consensus about how to husband the resources of our planet. Insulting the dead is not the best way to do that, in my opinion.

And that, in conclusion, is what my post was about.

Thanks for wading through it.

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WoodyTobiasJr Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-13-08 12:36 AM
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16. Paul Watson is a great, great man..
As a Canadian, I am totally disgusted by the action of the government and that little maggot Loyola Hearn in particular. I urge everyone to boycott anything Canadian.
I've never given anything to Sea Shepard. My donations usually go to to WWF and CPAWS but I am definitely sending them a cheque now.
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