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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:04 AM
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Clinton Slams "Activist Base of the Democratic Party"--Private Remarks Reveal Contempt for Dems By D
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_dean_pow_080419_clinton_slams__22activ.htm



Almost 24 hours have passed since the Huffington Post published a damning audio of Clinton disparaging the “activist base of the Democratic Party,” and the New York Times has absolutely ignored it. By this time last week, the Times had written about 258 stories about Obama’s “elitist” views, as revealed in, like, 16 words in San Francisco.

Just after her defeats on Super Tuesday last February, Hillary told the VIPs, "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me."

Talk about elitist…When are we who believe the Iraq War is bad for our treasury, bad for our soldiers and their families, bad for the environment, bad for Democracy, bad for our foreign relations, bad for gas prices, and bad for American jobs, green collar or otherwise, going to stop being treated like third-rate citizens? When will our opinions have an audience with a Democrat in Washington, let alone the Republicans? When will the millions of Americans, diverse in race and gender and gender orientation and socioeconomic status, stop being lumped together in the “kook fringe” category and dismissed every time they decide to think differently than well-connected Washington insiders? It’s degrading, and offensive to be reduced to a category box and written off. People of color in America deal with it every day, on a far more emotionally challenging level, and women deal with it, but it is offensive and degrading nonetheless. I’d expect this breathtaking haughtiness from a Republican, but from Hillary Clinton?

If there are any Democrats left in Pennsylvania who still think that Clinton cares about their interest in pulling out of Iraq, to escape war with Iran, to escape the American escalation of conflict throughout the world…reconsider now. After running a campaign that openly shuns the “activist base of the Democratic Party,” how can we expect her to differ substantively from Senator Trent Lott (R-Miss.)?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:16 AM
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1. Pissing off a large and activist segment of one's own party
is not a valid election strategy. No wonder she's slipping in the polls.

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Egalia Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 12:42 PM
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5. oh please..
It's MoveOn that pissed off half the party.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:00 PM
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6. I'm not all that nuts about them, but I'm not trying to get elected
and that's a very big difference.

Clinton might have jumped the shark this time.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:17 PM
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8. Right the group that was formed to support President Clinton and help him and the country "Move on"
after the rePIGlickers stirred the pot about Monica pissed off half the party?
PLEASE
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 10:35 PM
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13. moveon polls their members and does their wishes. what part of
democracy don't you like?
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KSinTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:20 AM
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2. Technically, this particular 'activist base' shunned her. It's their right but they did.
As for intimidation, that's been a two-way street and part of the game. What shouldn't have been was outright cheating at the caucuses (again stories on both sides). Meanwhile back at the ranch, had this group been doing these things on her behalf, the roles would reverse: Obama would complain and Clinton muted. Besides, this was a private discussion with her fundraisers, as was Obama's and weren't meant for public dissemination. Unfair on both counts which makes it Love-All.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 07:49 PM
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12. Love - All my ass.
It'll be even when her comments are splashed all over the MSM and dissected and discussed by every hack with a mouthpiece like his were.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:23 AM
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3. There she goes making excuses for her campaigns ineptitude
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Clear Blue Sky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 11:35 AM
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4. Nice summary and certainly explains her poll numbers.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:05 PM
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7. They hate us because we're getting things done.
The DLC was suppose to fool us all the time. It doesn't work anymore. The Democratic party has gone so far to the right over the last 25 years, they are in the same place the Republicans were back then. Thanx to the "centrists" who are still trying to pull us farther to the right. We're going back to the left where we belong. The activists are the mule train that's pulling us. They can go with us, or they can just go!
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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 01:29 PM
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9. oh no, it was on audio??
Thanks for posting this, I don't have much time for reading blogs right now and after a quick scan of the issue it didn't seem believable.

I couldn't possibly be more disappointed in my Senator.


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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 03:43 PM
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10. Stop the lynching! She said NOTHING critical about the 'activist' base.
Why don't you outraged Obama supporters try to treat Hillary fairly for once?

It's not hard. It just requires the willingness to know the truth.

Go to HuffingtonPost and read the quote that this whole brouhaha hangs from. You'll see that all HRC said is that her campaign is running into opposition from MoveOn and young 'activists' in the Democratic Party who dominate caucuses for Obama because they disagree with her about some things, such as the need to invade Afghanistan.

That is ALL she said. And every word of it was truth and is true.

If the Democratic Party has become a place where a good Democrat -- or any person -- can be attacked for stating God's honest truth, then I don't care if we DO disintegrate.
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susankh4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-19-08 06:03 PM
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11. I slammed 'em too....
slammed the door on them, that is. About three months ago when they started telling me how to think and vote.

Go Hillary!

Let move-on start their own damned party! Let's see how many American voters actually want their brand of "democracy." They'll never get another cent from me.
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