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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:15 PM
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The Last Roundup-Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?
The Last Roundup
Is the government compiling a secret list of citizens to detain under martial law?
By Christopher Ketcham

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This article is from the May/June issue of Radar Magazine. For a risk-free issue, click here.


ARE YOU ON THE LIST? The federal government has been developing a highly classified plan that will override the Constitution in the event of a major terrorist attack (Photo: Illustration by Brett Ryder)


In the spring of 2007, a retired senior official in the U.S. Justice Department sat before Congress and told a story so odd and ominous, it could have sprung from the pages of a pulp political thriller. It was about a principled bureaucrat struggling to protect his country from a highly classified program with sinister implications. Rife with high drama, it included a car chase through the streets of Washington, D.C., and a tense meeting at the White House, where the president's henchmen made the bureaucrat so nervous that he demanded a neutral witness be present.

The bureaucrat was James Comey, John Ashcroft's second-in-command at the Department of Justice during Bush's first term. Comey had been a loyal political foot soldier of the Republican Party for many years. Yet in his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee, he described how he had grown increasingly uneasy reviewing the Bush administration's various domestic surveillance and spying programs. Much of his testimony centered on an operation so clandestine he wasn't allowed to name it or even describe what it did. He did say, however, that he and Ashcroft had discussed the program in March 2004, trying to decide whether it was legal under federal statutes. Shortly before the certification deadline, Ashcroft fell ill with pancreatitis, making Comey acting attorney general, and Comey opted not to certify the program. When he communicated his decision to the White House, Bush's men told him, in so many words, to take his concerns and stuff them in an undisclosed location.

The Continuity of Governance program encompasses national emergency plans that would trigger the takeover of the country by extra-constitutional forces. In short, it's a road map for martial lawComey refused to knuckle under, and the dispute came to a head on the cold night of March 10, 2004, hours before the program's authorization was to expire. At the time, Ashcroft was in intensive care at George Washington Hospital following emergency surgery. Apparently, at the behest of President Bush himself, the White House tried, in Comey's words, "to take advantage of a very sick man," sending Chief of Staff Andrew Card and then–White House counsel Alberto Gonzales on a mission to Ashcroft's sickroom to persuade the heavily doped attorney general to override his deputy. Apprised of their mission, Comey, accompanied by a full security detail, jumped in his car, raced through the streets of the capital, lights blazing, and "literally ran" up the hospital stairs to beat them there.

Minutes later, Gonzales and Card arrived with an envelope filled with the requisite forms. Ashcroft, even in his stupor, did not fall for their heavy-handed ploy. "I'm not the attorney general," Ashcroft told Bush's men. "There"—he pointed weakly to Comey—"is the attorney general." Gonzales and Card were furious, departing without even acknowledging Comey's presence in the room. The following day, the classified domestic spying program that Comey found so disturbing went forward at the demand of the White House—"without a signature from the Department of Justice attesting as to its legality," he testified.

What was the mysterious program that had so alarmed Comey? Political blogs buzzed for weeks with speculation. Though Comey testified that the program was subsequently readjusted to satisfy his concerns, one can't help wondering whether the unspecified alteration would satisfy constitutional experts, or even average citizens. Faced with push-back from his bosses at the White House, did he simply relent and accept a token concession? Two months after Comey's testimony to Congress, the New York Times reported a tantalizing detail: The program that prompted him "to threaten resignation involved computer searches through massive electronic databases." The larger mystery remained intact, however. "It is not known precisely why searching the databases, or data mining, raised such a furious legal debate," the article conceded.

more...

http://www.radaronline.com/from-the-magazine/2008/05/government_surveillance_homeland_security_main_core_02-print.php
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:16 PM
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1. Martial Law?
To what end? Why do people even waste time on crap like this?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:27 PM
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4. And what is your certainty that something like this didn't (isn't) happening now? n/t
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:31 PM
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5. I reject certainty.
There's nothing that is certain. I'm absolutely sure of that.

What would be the point of martial law?
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:36 PM
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6. Uhhhh Power perhaps! n/t
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:44 PM
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7. Let's see...
Functionally, they have all the money. They have all the power. The control the media. And there's no organized resistance. Best of all, they've got people actually believing that there are two distinct parties in the US!

They go imposing martial law and there's bound to be protests, rebellion, etc. Hell, they could even lose!

They're not about to take that chance when they've got a sweet deal like this going on.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:56 PM
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8. Bull.
These are classic sociopaths and for sociopaths, there is no such word as "enough".
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:58 PM
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10. A group of sociopaths.
Interesting concept. Let me think about that before I reject it.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:58 PM
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11. I think something that you are not talking about is the impending election...
and the fact that they may get an unknown (Barack Obama) as the next President.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:02 PM
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12. Yeah?
And you think Obama will make some kind of difference? If they're that powerful, Obama will do what he's told or he'll be impeached.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:17 PM
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2. You thought it wasn't?
Edited on Fri May-23-08 06:21 PM by aquart
But I wouldn't get all that excited. Martial law requires an army. We ain't got one. And we can't afford Blackwater's rates, either, anymore. A declaration of martial law for the entire nation would simply break up the country into individual alliances of states. We'd become old Europe just as they are turning into us.

Now, onto the next fit of hysteria, as opposed to dealing with our real coming enemies: flood, drought, famine.
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rdenney Donating Member (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-25-08 06:53 AM
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15. No Army? Try the local SWAT teams. They WILL enforce the ML.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:22 PM
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3. this is a worthy read if only for the Comey shenanigans and the Promis call-back.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 06:57 PM
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9. Well, sweetums...
I thought that this was an important enough snag that I posted it on the top, over at World News Trust.

It makes a lot of sense, in light of everything known.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:17 PM
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14. Good! Post away. It's not that far-fetched, is it.
:hi:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-23-08 07:02 PM
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13. Timing is everything.
Their time has come...and gone. Too late. Maybe if they had pulled another "surprise" a few years ago, there'd be reason for concern. They don't have the numbers. < 25% support this administration. Any attempt now to play this card would galvanize our opposition. They are in big trouble now, a coup attempt will seal their fate.
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