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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:17 AM
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Conservatives Dominate Obama Veep Speculation
Conservatives Dominate Veep Speculation
by: Chris Bowers
Fri May 23, 2008 at 15:17

One of the ultimate engines of conventional wisdom, the Washington Post, weighs on the vice-presidential front-runners:

Among others, Obama is expected to look at seasoned Democratic statesmen such as Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.) and former senator Sam Nunn (Ga.). Biden, who has twice sought the presidency, including a 2008 bid, comes from a working-class Irish Catholic background -- a demographic Obama has struggled with in the primaries. Sen. James Webb (Va.) is another potential prospect, a decorated Marine and former Republican with strong working-class support in his GOP-leaning state.

Some Obama insiders think he will consider a number of female candidates, including Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano and Sen. Claire McCaskill (Mo.). All three endorsed Obama early in his campaign.

In the interest of party unity, Obama could turn to a Clinton supporter from a swing state, such as Sen. Evan Bayh (Ind.), Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell or Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland. Republicans who could land on his radar screen include Sen. Chuck Hagel (Neb.) and New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, now a political independent.

This is a very conservative list. In fact, it is so conservative, that it makes Biden and Sebelius look like hard-left, flaming liberals. Webb and McCaskill both rank below all of the Senate Presidential contenders on Progressive Punch and National Journal. Ed Rendell was the founding member of the "frainthearted faction" on Social Security (among many other things). Ted Strickland is anti-choice, and generally socially conservative, which is a really, really bad way to unite the party after a woman was defeated in the primary (Webb is just as bad on this front). Hagel and Bloomberg aren't even Democrats. Napolitano doesn't think troop withdrawal from Iraq is a good idea, and will come at McCain from the right on immigration. Evan Bayh has long been one of the most conservative Democrats in the Senate, ranking 49th for 2007-2008 on Progressive Punch, ahead of only Ben Nelson.

Progressives are completely shut out of prominent veep discussions. This is connected to several longstanding problems, from the lack of progressive voices in the national media, to progressives being taken for granted as voters, to progressivism never being seen as the future of the Democratic Party. The options are so conservative, that only Sebelius would arguably be to the left of Hillary Clinton. This is basically why I have arrived at Sebelius by process of elimination: she is the only frequently floated name who wouldn't suck as the future face of the party.

It is also slowly pushing me into Paul's camp, favoring John Edwards. While it would be weird to have the same Veep for two different nominees, while Edwards was of questionable value to Kerry in 2004, and while Edwards has sworn off being Veep again, he does run as a progressive, and polls by far the best of any other VP option. That would make him a decidedly non-sucky choice, which is something that is hard to say about most of the other names that are being floated in national discussions on this matter.

Link to article
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=9602F932A849C4D513932A1831B7B70D?diaryId=5959
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:19 AM
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1. I still am hoping for Richardson
He isn't Conservative at all.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:21 AM
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2. "Some insiders think . . ."
And nobody (including Obama) knows. I'm not even sure these Veep speculations have any entertainment value left, let alone news value.

When Obama decides, that'll be the time to evaluate his choice. Until then, I'm sitting on the other side of the planet from the process and my guess -- Pete Stark -- is just as valid as any MSM heavyweight or DC insider.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:31 AM
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3. They overlooked including Zell Miller
and Joe Lieberman.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:42 AM
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5. Joe Lieberman and The Thing That Must Not Be Named....
I don't know whether to :puke: :puke: :puke:

or :yoiks:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:34 AM
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8. You mean Hillary? She'd make an infinitely better president on her worst day
than Obama on his best day.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 10:01 PM
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9. No, I love Senator Clinton. I mean that foul creature from Georgia
the Z thing, the mention of whose name causes cows to miscarry and birds to fall from the sky. Are you so fond of arguing that you can't appreciate when someone is AGREEING with you?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:31 AM
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4. This Will be a Close Race
Whatever it takes to win is good. But a conservative populist, or someone with a base at the state level, would be better than a traditional DC insider.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 09:59 AM
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6. POTUS & mini POTUS are but one coequal branch, POTUS has a veto pen & a bully pulpit, it is our D
congressional majority that will legislate us to sanity, parity and peace.
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hendo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-24-08 11:28 AM
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7. Bloomberg would steal tons of McCain votes
Then again, last I checked, he was on good terms with McCain, so he probably wouldn't accept the post if offered.
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