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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:44 PM
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Europe Fears a Post-Bush Unilateralism, This Time on Trade
Edited on Sat Jun-07-08 02:53 PM by Joanne98
The Democrats’ vocal hostility to trade is starting to scare many of America’s best friends. As Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have bashed China and a variety of free trade agreements, allies who have been yearning for an end to President Bush’s in-your-face unilateralism are worried that a Democratic president may be just as undiplomatic, and unreasonable, when it comes to economic protectionism.

“It is very irresponsible, in my view, to pretend to people that we can disengage from international trade,” Peter Mandelstam, the European trade commissioner, warned in a May interview with the BBC.

It would be a mistake to brush all this off as mere campaign posturing. The United States remains as open to trade as its European allies, and in some areas it has even fewer restrictions. But the question is, for how long?

Despite economists’ assurances about trade’s many benefits, American workers increasingly view globalization as a losing battle against China’s cheap labor and a very personal threat to their wages and jobs. According to a poll this spring by The New York Times and CBS News, 68 percent of Americans favor putting restrictions on free trade to protect domestic industries. That is the highest share since they began asking the question in the 1980s, and 12 percentage points more than in 2000.

Workers in other rich nations feel less threatened. Only 14 percent of Americans surveyed last year by the Pew Global Attitudes Project said increasing trade was “very good” for the country. That’s less than half the share in Canada, Germany or Sweden. Even among the French, who tend to see capitalism as gauche and occasionally drive tractors into their local McDonalds, 22 percent said more trade was very good.

The issue isn’t the amount of trade. European countries actually trade much more than the United States. But their citizens appear to be more comfortable with the idea because their governments provide a stronger safety net to catch workers undercut by foreign competition and redistribute the gains from trade more equitably.

In the United States, public spending on social programs, from unemployment insurance to health care, amounts to about 17 percent of the overall economy. This is about half the level in Germany and less than almost every other rich nation. America’s meager social safety net and its winner-take-all distribution of riches means workers have less to gain from trade’s benefits and more to lose from any disruption.

Most economists agree that trade plays a small role in the deteriorating fortunes of less educated American workers. But as their wages have sagged, their pensions have shrunk and their health insurance has disappeared, trade has become the scapegoat. Politicians, especially but not solely from the Democratic Party, have been eager to capitalize on those anxieties.

Just this week, Democrats in the House and Senate proposed a bill that would require the president to submit plans to renegotiate all current trade agreements — before Congress considered any pending agreements and before the president negotiated any new ones. In April, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi decided to change the rules guiding approval of free trade agreements to stall the approval of one with Colombia.

The United States has an enormous stake in maintaining an open global economy. Trade means export markets for American products, as well as cheap imports for American companies and consumers. Foreign competition helps spur productivity, which has driven the spectacular increase in American living standards since World War II.

Before this country stumbles into a trade war, all political leaders would benefit from a careful examination of how other wealthy democracies have found ways to cushion economic blows on the most vulnerable and make trade more palatable to their workers.

More generous social policies are a far better choice than protectionism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/07/opinion/07sat4.html?em&ex=1212984000&en=2467aa97e30c4d44&ei=5087%0A

See! If you want more benefits from your country, like healthcare or free college or even higher wages. What you do is BITCH ABOUT THE TRADE AGREEMENTS! It saves alot of time and energy.

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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 02:46 PM
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1. Yeah, gawd forbid we'd think of our own people first
I mean, we can't have that.

:sarcasm:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:07 PM
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2. Scares the dysfunctional neoliberals at the NY Times at least
Who STILL don't get it that so called "free" trade has been overall a dismal failure.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:09 PM
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3.  Corporate America Will Ship As Many Jobs
as they can overseas, before Obama takes office.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 03:14 PM
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4. My response: Bring back "Made in the USA" campaign.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:11 PM
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5. Joanne98
Joanne98

If USA manufactures was to made thing that work, and who was as good as others manufactures, than I would be happy to pay for getting american goods... But your car, and a lot of other equipment US building are just not up to the mark, many other country can do.. And the name "made in USA" are just not what it was once in the days... I have maybe told it before, but in my fathers back jard he have a equipment from the Marshall plan. It a type of tractor, who can plow a little farm, and put potatoes and vegetables into the ground... Very handy for my grandfather who was given the equipment in 1947 under the Marshall plan.. The equipment are more than 60 year old now, but still working.. But you have to crank it very hard to get it working.. My Uncle, who was a wizard when it come to engines, was using the equipment before died, and that is a couple of year since... In my young days, as a child I still know the equipment had a american flag on it, and it was stamped on the frame "made in the U.S.A.

Once in the days, american was making the best car in the world, they was making the best aircrafts in the world.. America managed somehow to get the man on the moon... Once in the day everything american was great, marvelous something you definitely wanted... I remember in 1 grade, we had a visitor from america, one of my teachers had a nephew who was living in USA. And I remember that I talked about it for weeks before, and for many weeks after.. Why?. Because he was from the United States of America.. It was amazing, exacting, that someone came from the US.. Even that I in 1 grade maybe was not exactly sure about where USA was...:rofl: (This was in the early 1980s.) And I was growing up to really like the US.. Even that in my family we grew up to think for your self when it come to admire other country's.. Once in my younger days I even pandered over emigrate to the US, and make a living there.. But I get hooked into something home, so I never got the Chance.. Today I guess I am to old, and settled down here to emigrate, and make a whole new life for myself in the US...

I even wisted US once.. And really liked the place.. It was in Florida, with all the typical tourist-places. But still. it was amazing compared to what I have wisted other places I have been... I want to visit your amazing country once again, but it looks like you don't want to have visitor's anymore... It is more and more difficult to get the "Privileged" to visit your country..Wel it exist other places to se, and other places to wisit...


The Point is. If US was to make thing that the rest of the world, needed, wanted ot just was curious about. Then US would sell it in the tonnes (metric tonnes) and US would again wake up, and be, what they once was.. But instead of using the marvelous brains of your experts to build thing that the world need, and want, you are building a lot of silly, stupid thing that just american want anymore - or people with more money then brains... Your car industry, to take a example, have been in decline since the late 1970s.. Instead of building cars that is smaller, and less expensive to drive, the car industry are building this silly big Trucks and SUV that are killing you when you are going to the petrol station.. In many parts of the world, it cost a lot of money to get a car filled up.. In my country, that is full of japanese cars, because their good mileage, even here it cost more than 90 dollar, to fill the car (ca NOK 450).... And I have no specially big car, or a big tank to fill.. I am happy that I don't have a big GMC truck to fill up any week or two.... That would DEFIANTLY hurt my finances...

If US was to start war over trade... Well the most of the goods US once produced, can be produced anywhere else in the world... Even PRC can manufacture everything from cloth to jet engines now... So I am not that sure about trade wars if US wanted it.. It could go anywhere from victory to the opposite..

By the way, my PC is HP, an american manufactures of Computers and Printers and a lot of other thing I am not sure about.. But my PC is for the most part from country like PRC and Taiwan. And are "made in The Irish republic".. So I guess even the old HP name are not what it once was...

Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:24 PM
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6. What. A. Load. Of. Crap! Trade = "free trade" (neo-lib)? Trade = monstrous monopolies?
Trade = global corporate predator rule?

They have co-opted the word "trade" --an ancient human delight (creating things, trading things)--to be the equivalent of multi-national monstrosities that trample our sovereignty, and that of others, and that forget that their right to exist and to make a profit FOR THE COMMON GOOD, derives directly from us--from we, the people. They have NO right to exist without us. We GIVE rights. And we can take them away from corporate predators, and re-make trade that is fair for everyone, that is creative and fun, and that doesn't kill the planet.

Robber barons and mega-corps are anti-trade, also anti-democratic. They don't really trade--they dominate and monopolize and hijack our military for their resource wars. They buy our politicians with profits that rightfully belong to us, as better wages and benefits and the common good--and write our laws, to dibby up their ENORMOUS profiteering, at our expense, among the rich few.

Small business are the traders. Workers are the traders. Corporations are TYRANTS. We need to pull their corporate charters, dismantle them, seize their assets for the common good, and start over.
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Middle finga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-07-08 05:27 PM
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7. Good post.
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