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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 04:56 PM
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Barackis Dukakis? McCain Slings from the Sewer While Obama Says Little
John McCain is a scumbag.

I choose my words carefully, and in full recognition of past sacrifices and contributions he has made.

But I am sick to death of seeing my country go down the toilet. And I am sick to death of my country wrecking other parts of the world. And I am sickest-at-heart of all that the people doing this represent the sleaziest side of American politics.

These are the Karl Rove acolytes, who learned their craft from the Lee Atwater team, who learned from the Nixon ratfucker squad. From there it may go directly back to Satan, for all I know, possibly with a stopover at Joe McCarthy’s desk.

There will always be people like this. Alleged humans who are willing to do anything to win at politics. Fine, we can’t control that. But it says everything about any candidate when he or she puts people like this in charge of their campaign. And it says everything about us as a society that we would ever let those who do so win the highest offices in the land, let alone frequently.

Hence, my comment about McCain. It has now become transparently clear that this man will do anything to be president. Whatever scraps of decency and uniqueness and detachment from his own sick party he once had have now all been mortgaged against that goal.

The McCain who once knew Bush’s tax cuts were irresponsible now favors them, despite eight years of direct evidence turning informed speculation about potential consequences into historical fact. The McCain who once criticized the sex-obsessed theocrats running his party as “agents of intolerance” now seeks their endorsement. The McCain who once stood for a cleaner politics is now firmly ensconced in the sewer, from whence he is reaching down and hurling great gobs and handfuls of what flows all around him.

<snip- (sordid facts in this section)>

....McCain has hired the known assassins, and they’ve already begun their work, a fact which became visibly obvious in the massively changed tenor of the McCain campaign this last week or two.

So, Barack Baby, do I have to spell it out for you, my man? Can you not see the freight train that is headed your way? Must we have yet another example of Democratic roadkill, to join those of Dukakis, Gore, Cleland, Kerry and the rest, before one of you guys learns to throw a punch or two?

This is your swiftboat moment, dude. John Kerry waited three weeks to respond to the crap they threw at him, after which he might as well have gone off windsurfing and not bothered responding at all. Why are you not shredding McCain for lying about your Iraq trip and the canceled visit to wounded soldiers? (Even the media is pointing that out, despite the fact that they love McCain almost as much as they fear the GOP.) Why are you not disemboweling McCain every day of the week, every week of the month, for his outrageous allegation that you are sacrificing lives in order to win an election?

And why aren’t you on the offensive? McCain has given you openings you should be able to drive a Mack truck through, and you need to be saturating the airwaves with these. Why isn’t every other television commercial a viewer sees one of yours, showing Phil Gramm calling Americans “whiners” for feeling economic pain, showing McCain saying “Gramm doesn’t speak for me,” then noting that Gramm in fact spoke on behalf of McCain to the Wall Street Journal on that very same day?

Why aren’t you running ads turning McCain into George Bush’s long lost Siamese twin? Why aren’t you hammering McCain at his point of greatest strength, undercutting his so-called national security credentials by showing clips of all his errors, including before the war began when he said it would go easily, during the early parts when he said it was going fine, his absurdly bogus Baghdad market walk-through, and his myriad recent gaffes which suggest his brain clicked off sometime in the 1980s?

Despite the fact that the candidate has now issued a semi-strong rebuttal spot two weeks into this ugliness, I must say, I liked the Barack Obama of the primary season better than the current model. I liked his politics and his integrity more, but most of all I liked his fighting spirit, and his immediate response to scurrilous attacks.

Now that the attacks have gotten worse, I’m wondering what happened to that guy?

Hey Barackis: One Dukakis is per lifetime is more than enough.

McCain and his Gang of Rove have more than transcended the threshold of decency these past weeks, and have done so repeatedly.

It’s time for you to take him down.


More: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/01/10739/
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David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers’ reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website, www.regressiveantidote.net.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:04 PM
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1. Kerry "said little" when the swiftboating started
by the time he reacted it was too late.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:20 PM
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3. We are heading towards a week since the Britney, Hilton ads come out
So far Obama's responses are just too nice. If I think Obama can't fight back, what is the use of sending him our hard earned cash.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:19 PM
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2. Yeah, like, whoa dude!
When are you gonna, like, stop with this high road shit and get in the mud with McCain? When are ya gonna throw away everything you've accomplished so far by turning yourself into just another mud-slinging politician?

Like, dude, like wow, like you just don't get it, baby!

It's like, whoa, like totally amazing that you came out of nowhere and became a presidential candidate without ME running your campaign!

Whoa, dude. Let it sink IN, man! 'Cause it's people like me who still use the word "dude" who KNOW where's it at.



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:31 PM
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5. How is telling the truth about McCain & Co. in no uncertain terms "mudslinging?"
:shrug:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:01 PM
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6. Every time McCain opens his own mouth ...
... he tells the truth about himself, and he's been telling it from the bottom of the mud pit. No need for Obama to get dirty - or involved.

And you'll forgive me if I give little credence to a professor of political science who actually uses the words "baby" and "dude" in essays he expects to be taken seriously.



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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:35 AM
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7. I have news- hardly anyone in the states has any idea what McCain et al. have said
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 12:35 AM by depakid
And they won't have any idea, unless the Obama campaign uses all that money people have sent them in good faith to actually make the case- and repeat it enough times so that becomes part and parcel to the narrative.

Let me ask- what is it that you have against exposing Republicans to the majority of the electorate for who they are and what they stand for in no uncertain terms?

What's the problem people have with defining the opponent forcefully using their own words and actions?

Is it cowardice? Hubris? Self-righteousness? Complicity?

Why is it that the consultants think that each and every year can use the same "strategy" and tactics- and expect the results in November to be any different than they've been each and every time before?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:46 AM
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8. Is this your first time at the rodeo?
The concept of getting into the mud with your opponent IS the "same old strategy and tactics".

Obama has realized that he doesn't need to waste time, money and energy "making the case" against McCain - because McCain is making the case against himself.

When your opponent is punching himself in the jaw, over and over, you don't tap him on the shoulder and ask to be included in the fight. You sit back and watch him wear himself out - before you deliver the final blow.

In terms of political timelines, Barack Obama came out of nowhere to become a presidential candidate - and amazingly, he did it without relying on your expertise.

Go figure.

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 12:58 AM
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9. Are you projecting?
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 12:59 AM by depakid
because if not, you must have been asleep for the past 20 years. These same naive rationalizations and platitudes- people like Professor Green (and many others) we've heard them so many times before.

What makes you think that the they'll be successful this time- when they've proven to be losers in elections past?

:shrug:
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 01:12 AM
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11. Ah, your first mistake ...
... was harkening back to Professor Green, the "Hey, dude, where's my candidate" of political discourse.

You might want to step back and take a look at the political environment - because if you think it's a stagnant thing that doesn't change with every election cycle, you're the one who's been asleep.

In this ever-changing political landscape, hope and change is the message that's catching on with millions of voters - NOT same old/same old.

Maybe you and Professor Green can get together and explain to Obama where he's gone wrong. I'm sure he'll be interested in hearing your views, and will adjust his campaign strategy accordingly - because I just have to say it again; it's astounding that he's gotten this far without your expertise, not to mention your experience in running a presidential campaign.

But, just between you and me, I'd keep the "hey dude" stuff on the down-low, if you get my meanin'.


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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:21 AM
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13. Heard it all before
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 02:21 AM by depakid
The same ridicule from the sycophants- the same niave rationalizations for failing to hold the far right to account.

Things are different this time, you'll see!

Well, I've seen alright- so has Rachael Maddow (I'm sure you have a bus to throw her under too, for stating damn near the same things).

Dry powder Democrats. They've won so many battles for us, they don't know where to hang their laurels.





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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:24 AM
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14. Well, dude ...
... if you're so disenchanted with THIS party, there's another one that would love to hear from you.

:hi:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:38 AM
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15. In case you hadn't noticed:
Congress has the lowest approval rating yet recorded: 9%.

A great deal of attention has been paid over the last two years to President Bush's relatively low approval rating, which is mired around 30%. But, while it took President Bush around six years to drive his approval rating into the ditch, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have achieved a far worse result in a mere year and a half. That's remarkable.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/07/020948.php

Seems there are quite a few disenchanted with dry powder Democrats....
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 02:46 AM
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16. Sweeite, in case YOU HADN'T NOTICED ...
Edited on Sat Aug-02-08 02:48 AM by NanceGreggs
... I only responded on this thread in the first place because I thought the hey, dude concept was a laugh.

But I've had my fill of chuckles for tonight ...
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 01:00 AM
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10. Thank You, Nance...
For injecting a little bit of sanity into this conversation.

There is NO WAY that McCain can win this thing.
Desperate times, baby call for what?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-02-08 01:25 AM
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12. And thanks right back at ya, GMBMC!!
But you've got to admit this is slim pickin's - arguing with an OPer who quotes an article rife with Obama, baby and Come on, dude.

It's like watching a trailer for "Harold and Kumar, Like, Totally Go To the White House".

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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 05:24 PM
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4. Not this time! NT
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